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no fly zone in libya
« on: March 19, 2011, 07:19:54 am »
a wise move by the west..they ask the arab council to make it public,that they need their support to oust this Mr.Qaddafi.

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2011, 08:08:55 am »
Hypocrites to the max... How about the ff. Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi, Iran, Syria, Ivory, Somalia and lastly Israel (Gaza) this one candidates to NFZ or military intervention too.  

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The 3 clowns is saving their arse in expense with the Libyan people, LIES LIES LIES Look what happen in Iraq WMD ni isang sako walang nakita at sa Afghanistan's Osama Bin Laden prolly his dry humping already with all 70 virgins in the caves.

Sarkozy kulilat sa survey for the next election.
Cameron his coalition gov. is collapsing.
Obama is doomed too Republicans take-over the house of representatives.
 
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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2011, 08:41:21 am »
Riots in Bahrain is funded by Iran, in case they will succeed Iran will have a basi inside the middle east..But for sure the west will not let it happen.

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 09:12:33 am »
Riots in Bahrain is funded by Iran, in case they will succeed Iran will have a basi inside the middle east..But for sure the west will not let it happen.

So it means shooting/killing the protesters is justified since Iran is not friendly to the west.

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 09:16:29 am »
matapang kasi masyado si gadaffi eh

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 09:38:39 am »
Gaddaffi to Obama during press conference...

"What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons? What would you do, so I can follow your example."

So far wala pang official answer ang WhiteHouse.

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 09:43:57 am »
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wait nlang natin sagot ni OBAMA  ::moreinfo

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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 09:47:40 am »
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wait nlang natin sagot ni OBAMA  ::moreinfo

Cruise Missiles... di na nga lumalabas si Gaddaffi saan na kaya nagtago?  ;D

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2011, 09:57:39 am »
Cruise Missiles... di na nga lumalabas si Gaddaffi saan na kaya nagtago?  ;D

baka wala na nga sa Libya yun eh ;D pero may point yung sinabi ni Gadaffi dun  laffman:: laffman::


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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2011, 10:06:19 am »
baka wala na nga sa Libya yun eh ;D pero may point yung sinabi ni Gadaffi dun  laffman:: laffman::


nasa libya pa din yan kasi kapag nalaman ng supporters na wala na siya dun mawawalan ng gana or hihina loob nila. i think matagal pa to, hopeless daming buhay ang mawawala , kawawa yung mga mtatanda at mga bata dun. >:(

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2011, 10:18:08 am »
International satellites for intelligence gathering in limbo on pointing where Gaddaffi is.  Since Col. Gaddaffi never slept in any mansion or bunkers but only in a tent. Images on the ground Libya is dotted with million of tents across the desert.  ::lmao

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Re: no fly zone in libya
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2011, 03:58:58 am »
a wise move by the west..they ask the arab council to make it public,that they need their support to oust this Mr.Qaddafi.
The no fly zone has been imposed against Libya and USA, UK, France, Italy and its NATO allies has not only been enforcing it but also bombing Libya for several months. In my view, USA and its allies will fail in their mission embedded with hidden agenda to control the economy and politics in Libya.
One can just look at the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan after USA and its allies invaded them, and FAILURE is clearly written over USA’s invasion and continuing presence in those countries. There’s continuing civil war in Iraq, and Sunni rebels and Al Queda forces are battling US-backed Iraqi government controlled by Shiites, rival of the Sunni tribe. The fierce and battle-hardened Taliban in Afghanistan is waging a relentless war versus the USA and its allies, and there’s also a Taliban group in Pakistan. Now there are two Taliban rebel groups against war-weary USA and its allies. Now where is peace, progress and democracy after USA and its allies invaded those countries?
Even Superman probably knows USA won’t succeed in Libya and also does not believe in the imposition of the no- fly zone. Superman has announced his plan to renounce his US citizenship maybe because he did not want anything to do with imposing the no-fly zone against Libya. Hehehe. Joke
 
http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,132271.0.html

Now I just read a good and informative comment about the events happening in Libya and other countries in the Middle East and Africa, and it explains why USA and its allies will fail in its quest to meddle in the political and economic affairs not only in those 3 countries and but also in other parts of Middle East and Africa as well. Here is the comment I want to share:

And so it continues, all over Africa and the Middle East. We see the issue as youthful “tweeters” yearning to breathe free vs. tyrannical dictators, but the situation is far more complex than that. How many times have we seen it: A dictator in power for decades has plundered his country amassing a vast personal fortune, while suppressing the “rights” of untold numbers of his countrymen. Yet when the political tides finally shift and the end is seemingly inevitable, he refuses to step down – preferring even to throw his country into bloody civil war. We in the West view these “leaders” as quintessentially evil. And yet, surely there is something deeper at play here than simple malevolence. A merely evil person would simply take his fortune and run to a luxurious “exile.” Why do these despots cling to power so tenaciously, even at the risk of losing everything – including their lives, even believing that they are “right” to do so?

The answer to this question lies in the dominant political and cultural force in much of the Middle East and in Africa. It is a force that is largely unappreciated by Americans in particular, for it plays little role here. That force is TRIBALISM – the loyalty felt and owed to members of one’s own tribe, over the myriad other tribes with which it competes for power and resources. It is a much stronger force than patriotism because it is rooted in blood and the kinship of extended families. What we westerners view as “corruption” – graft, nepotism and illegal patronage is considered not just the norm, but a duty in these countries. Other tribes may resent the leader in power for patronizing his own, but given the opportunity, they would do the same. The tribe comes first.

The importance of tribalism to the psyche of these “leaders,” can hardly be overstated. Tribalism was at the root of the genocidal carnage in Rwanda between the Hutus and Tutsis. It is why the Baathists in Iraq, whose senior members were part of Saddam Hussein’s Albu Nasir tribe, fought fiercely to protect his regime – and their privileged position in it. It is why Gaddafi’s tribe, the Qadhafa, or the Syrian President Assad’s tribe, the Alawites, will fight just as fiercely to support them. It is why Gbagbo in the Ivory Coast clung to power until he was forcibly ousted (and why the violence didn’t stop with his departure): It is their DUTY to their tribe on which they have bestowed decades of largesse and have received their loyalty and support in return. Abdicating power also means ceding the authority and privileges of the entire tribe. This cultural imperative is all the stronger in leaders of military background, for whom the soldier’s concepts of duty and honor are bound together with tribal allegiance.

This is also why colonialism has been so destructive in these regions. Mixing these tribes together in some artificial geopolitical entity that we call a “country,” and expecting them to “share” its resources “democratically” is a purely Western concept. It is a recipe for continuous strife until one tribe garners sufficient power to install a “strongman” in the leadership role and forcibly suppresses other tribes in this ersatz “country,” plundering its resources for himself and his tribe. It is a winner-take-all system, and always has been. “Peace” lasts only until another tribe, or temporary alliance of several tribes, obtains sufficient power to overthrow the existing order in favor of their own. This is what is occurring in many countries in Africa and the Middle East today. Until we in the West at least appreciate this seemingly alien concept of tribalism, we risk blundering into these conflicts. We may think we are protecting innocent civilians, but we are also taking sides in what are essentially tribal civil wars, some of which have been ongoing for centuries.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110601/wl_nm/us_yemen_100
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