Topic: Angelo Reyes Dead

[neckromancer]

Baka siguro kaya siya nagsorry kasi aksidenteng nakalabit niya yung kanyang gatilyo. Nasobrahan sa kape.

[BlueAlphaZero]

So one centurion has fallen on his sword. May God have mercy on his soul.

I wonder who else will follow suit?

[simply_red91]

I want to offer my sincere condolence to the family of deceased secretary angelo reyes. RIP for the soul of the former chief the AFP.

Now I just wonder whether senators and congressmen can claim that hearings in aid of legislation uncover evidence beyond reasonable doubt against people accused of misdeed or wrongdoings in these hearings. I think we have senators and congressmen who are lawyers. Aren't they? Hearings in aid of legislation are not required to follow rules of court and judicial process since the work of Congress, composed of the Senate and House of Representatives, is legislative and not a judicial function. I don't understand how hearings in aid of legislation can uncover evidence beyond reasonable doubt against an accused when hearings are not done in accordance with rules of court and essential procedures in our judicial process. I hope that the members of Senate and House of Representatives can enlighten the public on whether hearings in aid of legislation can prove that any person accused in these hearings are guilty beyond reasonable doubt. If that is the case, there might be constitutional crisis in our democratic system of government if Congress insists on performing both the functions of legislature and judiciary.

[bugtook]

Baka siguro kaya siya nagsorry kasi aksidenteng nakalabit niya yung kanyang gatilyo. Nasobrahan sa kape.

nasubukan lang seguro bro kong puputok pa ba yong baril nya.

Paano ngayon ipapabaon na lang ba yong 60 million sa family nya dahil patay na sya? ganun po ba mangyari nito?

[HeLL_Vhoy]

yung ibang magnanakaw kaya kailan sila mag papakamatay?

I'm just wondering kung ganito kaya lahat ang gagawin ng mga magnanakaw sa gobyerno ilan kaya ang matitira sa pamahalaan from the highest down to the lowest position?

[bugtook]

I'm just wondering kung ganito kaya lahat ang gagawin ng mga magnanakaw sa gobyerno ilan kaya ang matitira sa pamahalaan from the highest down to the lowest position?

Sa totoo lang bro walang matira hanggang sa baranggay kagawad.

[gentledog]

yung ibang magnanakaw kaya kailan sila mag papakamatay?

I second this Sir....

[simply_red91]

nasubukan lang seguro bro kong puputok pa ba yong baril nya.

Paano ngayon ipapabaon na lang ba yong 60 million sa family nya dahil patay na sya? ganun po ba mangyari nito?

I really wonder whether hearings in aid of legislation by the Senate and House of Representives have proven that the accused persons like Angelo Reyes and others are guilty beyond reasonable doubt on accusations about "pabaon, pasalubong" and other alleged corrupt practices. I  would like to suggest that the public, whom Congress is beholden to serve, ask lawyers/lawmakers whether guilt beyond reasonable doubt is proven in a hearing conducted in aid of legislation.

[gentledog]

sa ginawa niyang yan, isa lang ang masasabi ko: NEXT!!!  

This.....

[2fear!]

sa dinami daming pwedeng idol-lin... si hudas pa!

[ffddss_08]

good riddance to that dirty general!

Only a complete moron or close friend or relative lang ang magsasabi na hindi siya nagnakaw sa kaban ng bayan. Pati asawa't anak, nakinabang din eh, going by the testimony of witnesses sa senate hearing.

How could he face our poor soldiers in the field, them with rundown boots, crappy helmets and misfiring rifles, and proclaim that he has lived a decent life! Kalokohan! Tangna, nagti-tiyaga yung ordinary foot soldier sa sardinas, samantalang puro steak at caviar ang kinakain ng mga buwayang heneral na yan.

Serves him right. Sablay pa nga yung ending eh. Hindi man lang nag-confess at nagturo kung sino talaga ang ultimate recipient ng mga kickbacks niya. Opted for the coward's way out.

Others were not so fortunate. At least si reyes, nakatikim ng poder at posisyon at hanggang ngayon, mayaman pa rin ang family niya. Some of those who spoke up against military corruption lost a whole lot more.

In my opinion, let's not grieve for this man, he doesn't deserve our mercy. If he thinks his death will temper my rage against those who plundered our nation, then he's dead wrong! (hmmm...i like the pun). One less thief to convict and no more plea bargaining. Makipag-bargain na lang siya kay taning.

[bakekong12345678]

matanong ko lang sa mga spies nating may alam lalo na sa mga kaespiya nating abogado, kapag ganito ba ang kaso, namatay na, pwede pang imbestigahan at makuha ang pera na di kanya? sana may makasagot..

tinututukan ko rin talaga ito lalo na ang expose ni col. rabusa

[Dairycow]

may agam agam lang po ako. pero sana maintindihan ninyo.

pero bakit parang naiinis ako of the thought na bibigyan ng military honors si Reyes eh gayong kahihiyan lang ang dinala niya sa ating Armed Forces?

i don't know, but it's just me i guess

[MiKeDaCuTe]

may agam agam lang po ako. pero sana maintindihan ninyo.

pero bakit parang naiinis ako of the thought na bibigyan ng military honors si Reyes eh gayong kahihiyan lang ang dinala niya sa ating Armed Forces?

i don't know, but it's just me i guess

yan ang tinatawag na "democrazy" at hindi na democracy.... crazy na ang mga nakaupo sa pwesto, kelangan ng repasuhin ang gobyerno at gawing kamay na bakal na ang patakaran, kapag napatunayan nagkasala pugutan agad ng ulo wala ng kulong kulong...



sa mga mangungurakot sa kaban ng bayan sumunod na kayo at hinihintay na kayo sa dagat-dagatang apoy. 
ang daming pinoy na nagsasakripisyo ng dahil sa inyong sariling kapakanan...

[Zuproc]

Why do you say so? Did the hearings in aid of legislation prove that ret. general angelo reyes was guilty of the accusations made by ret. colonel rabusa? Did these hearings in aid of legislation by senate and house of representatives follow the well accepted judicial practice of determining guilt by establishing evidence beyond reasonable doubt against the accused?
 
In judicial practice that i have observed, an accused is provided counsel or attorney who can study the case, check the evidence, and CROSS EXAMINE ANY OF THE STAR WITNESS against the accused. Was general reyes given the chance to be represented by his lawyer so that he could defend himself versus this accusations? NO. In fact, some senators even threatened his lawyer who had accompanied him during these hearings in aid of legislation.

Was the lawyer of general reyes given the chance to CROSS EXAMINE the star witness or witnesses testifying versus general reyes. NO, and the reason is that senate & house of representative hearings are done in aid of legislation and not to determine guilt beyond reasonable doubt. CROSS EXAMINATION during trial is a very essential element in judicial process since it is an effective way to determine whether the witness is telling the truth or not, but cross examination of witnesses in hearings in aid of legislation is not allowed by senate and house of representatives.

Did anyone see on tv, hear on radio, or read in newspapers that legal counsel of defendant or accused was allowed to CROSS EXAMINE THE star witness or witnesses in these hearings in aid of legislation by honorable lawmakers in the senate or house of representatives? NO. Therefore, what evidentiary value does hearings in aid of legislation bring? IT'S ONLY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE (if there is any) which in any judicial process is not considered evidence beyond reasonable doubt against an accused person.  I hasten to add about the bad practice of trial by publicity during these hearings in aid of legislation by our honorable lawmakers with "greasy" pork barrel funds.

Now let me go back to my two questions:
Did the hearings in aid of legislation prove that ret. general angelo reyes was guilty of the accusations made by ret. colonel rabusa? Did these hearings in aid of legislation by honorable lawmakers of the senate and house of representatives follow the well accepted judicial practice of determining guilt by establishing evidence beyond reasonable doubt against the accused? If you ask my humble opinion, both answers are NO.

By the way, let me ask whether anyone wants a judicial process in which an accused is not allowed to be represented by a lawyer to defend him and no cross examination is done to witnesses giving accusations toward another person.  If you ask my humble opinion again, the practice of rendering justice should be equitable not only to the plaintiff but also to the accused. In fact, there is presumption of innocence on the accused until he is proven guilty.

well said. . pahiram nito.

[local5]

nasasabi nyo yan at naiinis kayo dahil hindi kayo militar!  kung pagiging sundalo ang pag uusapan, bilib ako sa ginawa ni General, dahil hindi na nya maikakanta pa ang mga mistah nya, at least not from him!  Gen. Angelo Reyes saludo ako sa inyo Sir, may you rest in peace!

[MiKeDaCuTe]

tatanungin kita pre, kung ikaw nasa lugar ni reyes at halimbawa wala kang kasalanan,

magpapakamatay ka ba ng ganun ganun lang?

sino namang taong loko-loko ang magpapakamatay kung hindi guilty?

at sinong taong nasa gobyerno ang umamin na nangurakot sya?    ang sagot: WALA!!! in world history!

di na kelangan ng hearing para patunayan kung guilty man o hindi, nagsalita na ang konsensya kulang pa ba yun?

maging mapanuri po tayo...

[glock45]

bato bato sa langit tamaan wag magagalit...guilty guilty guilty siya... may mataas na opisyales kasangkot sa kasong isinampa sa kanya... kaya nagpakamatay nakonsensiya.... ayaw kuno dungisan name ng mother niya pero matagal na palang marumi...ayan pinasok ng demonyo ang kanyang utak...   paalam mundong punong puno ng kasalan at isa na siya doon...nagpaptupad ng batas...butas pala ang kanyang utak...mandarambong... PMA'er ka pa naman siguro ganun ang itinuro sa kanya nung nadun siya..mangurakot.......

[mikester]

COPRRUPT yan...  Action speaks louder than words.. Wala naman suicidal tendencies c General. Sa sobrang guilt pinatay nya sarili nya...  as for the rest na kasama sa kaso.. should follow the steps narin ni Reyes.. start natin sa fomer AFP Chief of Staff.. GMA. 

[mikester]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oOyX8oUTWg


250 pesos/month combat pay.. WTF....

[spell]

May kausap daw (cellphone) si Reyes bago nagpakamatay. Naging balisa daw sya pagkatapos nung pag uusap. Sabi sa news ung cellphone hinahanap padin para malaman kung sino ung kausap ni Reyes.

Tingin ko, kung sino man ung kausap nya before siya nagpakamatay yun naging dahilan kung bakit nya ginawa yun. Pwedeng tinakot sya na kung 'di magpapakamatay, papatayin pamilya nya.

[Dairycow]

medyo OT lang, pero bakit napapansin ko na sa lahat ng mga nasa hearing. english ang medium. nahahapyawan lang ng tagalog pero mostly ang mga statement nila ay in form of english.

bakit ganoon po?  don't get me wrong. nasusundan ko ang hearing through english.

pero paano yung mga magtataho? yung nag titinda ng pares? yung mga miron sa chess na nakakanood sa hearing??

paano nila maiaintidihan kung saan sa bokabularyo nila kukunin yung salitang Manifest,Point of Order at Plea Bargaining Agreement?? kung sa tagalog na medium nga eh maraming hindi nagkakaunawaan paano pa kaya sa english?

 isa ko nanamang agam agam. 

[findeho]

Tombstone of her mom..

mali nga ang media ndi pala febuary ung death anniversary... january.

[franxter]

Why do you say so? Did the hearings in aid of legislation prove that ret. general angelo reyes was guilty of the accusations made by ret. colonel rabusa? Did these hearings in aid of legislation by senate and house of representatives follow the well accepted judicial practice of determining guilt by establishing evidence beyond reasonable doubt against the accused?
 
In judicial practice that i have observed, an accused is provided counsel or attorney who can study the case, check the evidence, and CROSS EXAMINE ANY OF THE STAR WITNESS against the accused. Was general reyes given the chance to be represented by his lawyer so that he could defend himself versus this accusations? NO. In fact, some senators even threatened his lawyer who had accompanied him during these hearings in aid of legislation.

Was the lawyer of general reyes given the chance to CROSS EXAMINE the star witness or witnesses testifying versus general reyes. NO, and the reason is that senate & house of representative hearings are done in aid of legislation and not to determine guilt beyond reasonable doubt. CROSS EXAMINATION during trial is a very essential element in judicial process since it is an effective way to determine whether the witness is telling the truth or not, but cross examination of witnesses in hearings in aid of legislation is not allowed by senate and house of representatives.

Did anyone see on tv, hear on radio, or read in newspapers that legal counsel of defendant or accused was allowed to CROSS EXAMINE THE star witness or witnesses in these hearings in aid of legislation by honorable lawmakers in the senate or house of representatives? NO. Therefore, what evidentiary value does hearings in aid of legislation bring? IT'S ONLY PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE (if there is any) which in any judicial process is not considered evidence beyond reasonable doubt against an accused person.  I hasten to add about the bad practice of trial by publicity during these hearings in aid of legislation by our honorable lawmakers with "greasy" pork barrel funds.

Now let me go back to my two questions:
Did the hearings in aid of legislation prove that ret. general angelo reyes was guilty of the accusations made by ret. colonel rabusa? Did these hearings in aid of legislation by honorable lawmakers of the senate and house of representatives follow the well accepted judicial practice of determining guilt by establishing evidence beyond reasonable doubt against the accused? If you ask my humble opinion, both answers are NO.

By the way, let me ask whether anyone wants a judicial process in which an accused is not allowed to be represented by a lawyer to defend him and no cross examination is done to witnesses giving accusations toward another person.  If you ask my humble opinion again, the practice of rendering justice should be equitable not only to the plaintiff but also to the accused. In fact, there is presumption of innocence on the accused until he is proven guilty.

may nabasa ko kanina comment sa philippine star to quote "sana mayroon ding body who can conduct the same kind of investigation para sa mga senador and congressman whom we all know are quite corrupt as well... the problem is sila lang kasi ang pwedeng manghiya and mangbastos sa mga humaharap sa hearing nila di ba?" they will present a witness na magpapasabog ng kung ano-ano na paniniwalaan naman agad ng taong-bayan as if it was the naked truth... wala pa naman pini-present na proof!!! puro lang naman grandstanding mga senador at congressman na nauupo sa mga hearings eh...

[Asiong Salonga]

The suicide is like what happened before with Jaime Ongpin.  Kaliwete yun tao pero binaril daw nya ang right side ng ulo nya.  Di ba pag kaliwete ka eh gamitin mo left hand mo to shoot the left side of the head?  Now, if mag suicide ka, you don't shoot your breast dahil very awkward ang position nun - either ilagay mo baril sa mouth or just shoot your head.  We will know that if ang slug sa crime scene will match the bullet extracted from the breast - if ever.

Otherwise, may shooter.  Note that the killer should know that today is the death anniversary of his mom so mas probable na pupunta yan sa puntod ng nanay nya at dun sya aabangan.  Pagaaralan kun saan sya haharap pag nakatingin dun sa puntod at pupwesto ang killer where he will have a direct vision.  Ang katabing subdivision ng Loyola Memorial Park ay ang La Vista Subdivision.  Kung hindi ako nagkakamali, ang subdivision na ito ay pagaari ng mga Arroyo.  A Barrett or an M93 Zastava can do the job.  

Pag di nya nakaya ang pressure, baka kumanta at malaman pa kun kanino binibigay ang nakukuha nya sa AFP.  Note na nun umupo si Ms. Gloria ay wala itong gaanong mga kakampi sa military so kailangan nilang bumili ng alliances. Hence, mas malamang na may consent pa ng mas nakakataas ang pagkuha nila sa kaban ng AFP.  Pag buhay sya, kukunin sa pamilya ang pera at nakakulong pa sya plus kahihiyan. Pag wala sya, di na makukuha ang pera - altho pwede din sue ang wife.  Smacks of the novel, Roses For Mother.

hahahah ang hirap magtalino talinohan ano? hahahaha