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dark_machine

Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« on: December 31, 2010, 10:10:10 am »
Since the time of fire, man has had arguments – rare or well done? Of course, arguments depend on your point of view, or in the case of husbands and wives, what the wife thinks. Some arguments are never-ending. Over the centuries, there have been some doozies that have kept philosophy students and teachers debating.

To be included on this list of Arguments That Can’t Be Won, the argument must have no clear answer that cannot be countered with another opposing view.

Evolution or Creation?
Theologists and scientists have been arguing this one for centuries as well. The argument goes back to the time when organized religion was almost as powerful as the monarchies ruling countries. When people starting postulating that the Earth was not the center of the universe, it gave way to the rise in questioning the idea of a seven-day creation and God’s role in creating the Earth. Enter Darwin and his Theory of Evolution and the debate truly kicks off with an unholy fevered pitch. Add in that there are many stories of creation across many different religions and your brain can really start to hurt.

Gun control
It’s not guns that kill people, it’s the bullets. In America, citizens have a right to bear arms, which has proven to be dangerous for many other citizens and police over the centuries since the country’s birth. On the other hand, large portions of the gun-toting population are careful citizens who have never crossed the law. Why should one group’s rights to bear arms be stripped away because another group feels unsafe? Or why should they be allowed to bear those weapons of death among a land of peaceful citizens?

Euthanasia
Dr. Kevorkian helped many people commit suicide due to their health conditions and their desires. His motives were questioned because all life is supposedly precious, but his patients wanted to move on from their frail existence. What if those patients didn’t have a say and we had the opportunity to choose whether they live in agony or die in peace by not giving them medication or a procedure? What is the better option?

The Death Penalty
Centuries ago, the prevalent rule of thumb was an eye for an eye, or in some cases, a life for a life. So the question becomes have we advanced far enough in our social and political structures to ban the death penalty? Or when is the death penalty justifiable? Is the death penalty appropriate for an accidental homicide? How about for a mass murderer?

Abortion or Pro-life?
Does a woman have the right to control her body by ending a life inside her? When is a fetus truly alive? Is all life truly precious? What happens when a woman is raped and becomes pregnant – is that life still precious? There may never be answers to these questions; however, the government has helped us out many times by entering its own opinion whether the pro-lifers like it or not.

Free will or Destiny?
The free will or destiny argument stems back to the Christian doctrine that God is omniscient and has seen everything that will happen. So if God can see everything that happens, is it free will or destiny that makes you choose to continue reading? Some have argued that God knows you will read this but you still have a choice. However, if the path is already apparent to one being, then the path has already been decided for you. However, that directly contradicts our everyday actions where we constantly make decisions – is something, a destiny foreseen by God, guiding us or are we truly free of the strictures of destiny?

The chicken or the egg?
Perhaps one of the most fun arguments on this list, the chicken or the egg debate has raged for centuries mainly because it asks the questions does the animal evolve and then reproduce or was it hatched? That debate can then be transferred to our own existence, which leads into the argument of Evolution or Creation.

Does God Exist?
Since the dawn of recorded time, there have been people trying to prove that there is a higher being or beings that have caused the worlds and its creation. Organized religion comes down to having faith that there is a higher being and a place to go after death. Most people, if not already deeply religious in their life, find religion and start believing as they near their twilight years because they want to believe there is somewhere to go and someone to be with. So the question is how do you prove that god, in which ever religion you believe, exists?
"The one that stands in the shadow might see the one who is the light, but the one standing in the light doesn't see anything standing in the shadow."

tekko08

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 11:45:11 am »
ang walang kamatayang "the chicken && the egg"  laffman:: laffman::

oldieboy

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 02:49:39 pm »
does god exist?yan ang #1 di walang makakasagot kahit ata panahon di kayang sagotin...

sammaybe

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 10:14:35 pm »
" does God exist?" YES of course... u cant see him but you can feel his love!! Blessed are those who have not see and yet have believed.. :D

dark_machine

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2011, 12:24:37 am »
" does God exist?" YES of course... u cant see him but you can feel his love!! Blessed are those who have not see and yet have believed.. :D
tama kapatid
"The one that stands in the shadow might see the one who is the light, but the one standing in the light doesn't see anything standing in the shadow."

dark_machine

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2011, 12:33:07 am »
we all have different perspectives, but those perspectives are just "theory". theres is just one factual in this world, we are all going to "die" and all are just temporary. so, after death where we going? science didnt stated the life after death but our religion assuring us for salvation, thats why I believe in "Sumpreme Beings".that simple... ;)
"The one that stands in the shadow might see the one who is the light, but the one standing in the light doesn't see anything standing in the shadow."

neckromancer

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2011, 03:38:21 am »
A thought then, are these arguments worth winning, or even arguing about?

t0rpe69

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2011, 04:27:39 pm »
chicken or egg?

it's the egg, kasi diba unang ginawa si adan? eh di ba may itlog ka kung lalake ka?

eh di egg ang nauna..

voyager_

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2011, 04:39:15 pm »
chicken or egg?

it's the egg, kasi diba unang ginawa si adan? eh di ba may itlog ka kung lalake ka?

eh di egg ang nauna..


i think ginawa yata una dalag kaysa tao...kaya merong utak dalag  :P
Rom 1:23  At pinalitan nila ang kaluwalhatian ng Dios na hindi nasisira, ng isang katulad ng larawan ng tao na nasisira, at ng mga ibon, at ng mga hayop na may apat na paa, at ng mga nagsisigapang.

oldieboy

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 07:04:58 pm »
" does God exist?" YES of course... u cant see him but you can feel his love!! Blessed are those who have not see and yet have believed.. :D
you can't see him?but feel him?that didn't answer the question of his existence!!!


Idiot

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 07:23:07 pm »
Naka-program sa utak natin na may Higher beings so called GOD

kase kahit saan civilization or empire or ancients pa e may higher being sila mapa tao man yan o spirit

problema kase ng mga atheist e pinipilit nilang walang Dios e pakialam pa kaya nila huwag nilang pakialam yung taong naniniwala kase kung pakikialam mo sila e subconsciously e naniniwala kang may Dios manihimik ka na lang


neckromancer

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 07:27:44 pm »
ang mga comment sa thread na ito ay patunay ng topic.

Pierro7

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 05:32:34 am »
ang mga comment sa thread na ito ay patunay ng topic.
this is indeed true. do we need to argue more?  laffman::
A person becomes strong by accepting their fears.

oldieboy

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2011, 06:47:09 am »
problema kase ng mga atheist e pinipilit nilang walang Dios e pakialam pa kaya nila huwag nilang pakialam yung taong naniniwala kase kung pakikialam mo sila e subconsciously e naniniwala kang may Dios manihimik ka na lang
di ko kelan man ipinilit ang paniniwala ko!!!sumagot lang sa isang argument!!!
Imagine there's no Heaven,
No hell below us,
Above us only sky,
Imagine there's no countries,
Nothing to kill or die for,
And no religion too,
Imagine all the people,
Living life in peace,
Imagine no possessions,
No need for greed or hunger,
A brotherhood of man...
that's the world that atheist want!!! smoking::

kikorecto

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2011, 09:04:11 am »
sa tanong kung meron Diyos... di pwedeng susulpot na lang ang isang bagay o nilalang, halimbawa may libro, dahil may sumulat nito. subukan mo i-trace ang ninuno mo, kapag nakarating ka na sa dulo ng inyong pinangalingan, magtanong ka kung saan sila galing. isa lang ang pwedeng sagot.. isang makapangyarihang nilalang lang ang may kakayahan na gumawa ng tao at mundo. at Diyos ang tawag ko sa kanya.

neckromancer

Re: Arguments That Can’t Be Won
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2011, 01:25:46 pm »
Isama mo na ang sports. Usually, statistics lang ang pinag-uusapan, past records. Unless may upcoming fight between two parties or dream team na bubuuin. Sa ganyang bagay, expected statistics lang ang pinagtatalunan.