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Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« on: January 15, 2010, 01:53:27 am »
I read an editorial (Philippine Star) yesterday by William Esposo entitled "The Biggest Campaign Spender Can be the Worst Possible Plunderer".

Anong opinion niyo?

Ako naniniwala dito. Ang hirap kasi maniwala na yung milyones/bilyones ng isang kandidato ay uubusin nila para kumabig lang ng kakarampot na sweldo bilang presidente ng Pilipinas. Siguradong tayo din ang magbabayad para sa mga campaign expenditures nila. Babawiin din nila yan.
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 01:57:43 am »
i agree! ginagawa nilang negosyo ang pangangandidato. mamumuhunan sa campaign. babawi pagnakaupo na sa pwesto.  smoking::
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 02:38:45 am »




E CNO PA E DI C MANNY BILLAR!!!

NOVEMBER 2009 PA LANG MAY COMMERCIAL NA CYA..

CGURADONG BABAWIAN TAYO NYAN PAG NAUPO YAN.. NAKUPO!




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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 02:40:38 am »
should be "best possible plunderer" if they wanted to use the word worst, it should be "possibly the worst plunderer".
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2010, 03:46:08 am »
Quote from: dyasper on January 15, 2010, 02:40:38 am
should be "best possible plunderer" if they wanted to use the word worst, it should be "possibly the worst plunderer".

i agree, pero "qinuote" ko lang yan from the article... maybe you should tell william esposo your self. i'm sure he will entertain the correction. check phil. star's website.
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2010, 03:49:31 am »
tingin ko lang ang ibig niyang sabihin ay "pinakamalalang mangungurakot/magnanakaw/mandarambong".
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2010, 05:10:45 am »
This is more applicable with local candidates in my opinion.

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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2010, 06:21:59 am »
notice ko lng ha. meron ilang commercial ba si manny villar sa television at primetime? siguro mga 3 to 4 no? ito yung bago pa lng hindi pa kasama nung from august to november... tapos mayrun pa xa sa youtube.. hhhmmmmm.. hindi baba-ba 300M na nagagasta nito...
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2010, 03:57:55 am »
this is the reason there is a sudden increase in the price of sugar
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2010, 06:43:53 am »
Quote from: Idiot on January 16, 2010, 03:57:55 am
this is the reason there is a sudden increase in the price of sugar


very keen observation....
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2010, 10:22:14 am »
Quote from: Idiot on January 16, 2010, 03:57:55 am
this is the reason there is a sudden increase in the price of sugar


cant see the connection of the upsurge in sugar prices and the hundreds of millions spent by Villar on his poltical ads but just the same, hahanap at hahanap ng paraan yon na bawiin ang ginastos niya. Sadly for those weaing orange, Mr. Esposo is right.
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2010, 12:02:47 pm »
naalala ko yung sinabi ni Noynoy,
ang tanong, ano ang unang papansinin pag nasa pwesto na, something like that...
lahat ng presidentiables na nauna sinasabi yung puro tungkol sa kahirapan,
edukasyon, etc...
ang sagot naman ni Noynoy titignan muna kung May budget ba para dun..
parang mas realistic naman tong si noynoy, mas boto ako sakanya,
iba-iba naman tayo ng views eh, pero siya talaga ang feel kong iboto
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2010, 12:13:32 pm »
lahat yan sigurado babawi sa ginastos nila. ngayon sino sa kanila ang babawi pero tutulong parin sa bansa.
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2010, 02:03:49 am »
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cant see the connection of the upsurge in sugar prices and the hundreds of millions spent by Villar on his poltical ads but just the same, hahanap at hahanap ng paraan yon na bawiin ang ginastos niya. Sadly for those weaing orange, Mr. Esposo is right.

because you don't think like a businessman and a politician

1.remember nag impose ang BIR ng campaign tax (hindi ko alam kung activated na ang law na ito)paging GKhan
2.Remember then na every ads nila funded yan ng mga Friends kuno
3. Remember kung gaano kamahal ang campaign Advertisement sa TV hindi ko alam kung magkano ang per second nila

variables
Friends - Either mga Businessman or mga corporation ang mga nag-fund sa mga yan na may personal interest kapag nanalo ang mga bata nila

2009 - kung dito pa lang nag-start na sila ng campaign tulad ng TV Ads, streamer, Sponsorship, ETC saan nila kukuhanin yung funds nila Either sa bulsa nila or with the help of their friends

ano ang mga prime commodities

Bigas - everyday kinakain natin
Cooking Oil-everyday ginagamit natin
Sugar - halos lahat ng food products may sugar, like P. Butter, Catsup, Sweets and candy, Ibang Delata

Conclusion
kung ako isang multi-million na negosyante na bibigyan ng tax ng BIR kapag kinapamya ko ang manok ko or gagastos ako ng malaki para sa manok ko saan ako kukuha ng malaking funds. edi itaas ang presyo ng mga prime commodities at least dito ako makakabawi in case na matalo ang manok ko

kuha muna



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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2010, 03:29:28 am »
Quote from: Idiot on January 17, 2010, 02:03:49 am
because you don't think like a businessman and a politician

1.remember nag impose ang BIR ng campaign tax (hindi ko alam kung activated na ang law na ito)paging GKhan
2.Remember then na every ads nila funded yan ng mga Friends kuno
3. Remember kung gaano kamahal ang campaign Advertisement sa TV hindi ko alam kung magkano ang per second nila

variables
Friends - Either mga Businessman or mga corporation ang mga nag-fund sa mga yan na may personal interest kapag nanalo ang mga bata nila

2009 - kung dito pa lang nag-start na sila ng campaign tulad ng TV Ads, streamer, Sponsorship, ETC saan nila kukuhanin yung funds nila Either sa bulsa nila or with the help of their friends

ano ang mga prime commodities

Bigas - everyday kinakain natin
Cooking Oil-everyday ginagamit natin
Sugar - halos lahat ng food products may sugar, like P. Butter, Catsup, Sweets and candy, Ibang Delata

Conclusion
kung ako isang multi-million na negosyante na bibigyan ng tax ng BIR kapag kinapamya ko ang manok ko or gagastos ako ng malaki para sa manok ko saan ako kukuha ng malaking funds. edi itaas ang presyo ng mga prime commodities at least dito ako makakabawi in case na matalo ang manok ko

kuha muna






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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2010, 08:48:14 am »
kaya ang tanong kay Villar sa 'isang tanong' ni mike enriquez ay...
paano niya babawiin yung nagastos niya sa mga ads niya which hindi ako sa satisfied sa sagot niya.
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2010, 11:43:03 am »
magiging specific nalang ako sa opinion ko, kasi malamang karamihan sa atin alam na naman kung sino ang biggest spender pag dating sa advertisement sa darating na eleksyon. walang iba kung hindi si "hindi sikat", "tunay na mahirap" manny villar.

noong magsisimula palang ang election period nakita ko ang political ad ni noynoy, naisip ko highbudgeted, magastos, parang musicvideo dahil puro artista, mga player, mga kilalang tao... pero malamang sa malamang karamihan dun ay libre lamang. Artista ang kapatid nya maraming connection at kaibigan pa ang talent manager na si boy abunda saan ka pa!?

in the end hindi naman ganun karami ang spot ni noynoy sa tv...

pero si mr. mahirap  grabe minuminuto ata naririnig ko na ang ad nya "nakaligo ka na ba sa dagat ng basura"...

tama po si tlaurencet  milyon milyon po ang kailangan gastusin para sa primetime spot advertisement sa isang network. ( natanong narin po kasi namin to sa mga network )

so posible ba na bawiin nya ang mga ginasta nya sa pagpapasikat nya sa eleksyon kapag nanalo sya, malaking OO...

eto po pla si villar sa isang tanong, credits to the original uploader:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbFlN2j6FEM[/youtube]
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2010, 12:14:59 pm »
sana lang katulad nyo mag isp ang majority ng boboto.. kaya lng.. alam naman natin ang pilipino madaling mabulag sa ads ads na yan... kung sinong madalas makita sa TV(kahit la sarileng TV).. eh dun papanig... hayz..
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2010, 03:25:58 pm »
tinatarget nila ang madali mauto... ang mahihirap...  smoking::
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 07:58:13 am »
Quote from: ThePunisher on January 16, 2010, 12:02:47 pm
naalala ko yung sinabi ni Noynoy,
ang tanong, ano ang unang papansinin pag nasa pwesto na, something like that...
lahat ng presidentiables na nauna sinasabi yung puro tungkol sa kahirapan,
edukasyon, etc...
ang sagot naman ni Noynoy titignan muna kung May budget ba para dun..
parang mas realistic naman tong si noynoy, mas boto ako sakanya,
iba-iba naman tayo ng views eh, pero siya talaga ang feel kong iboto

I agree with you bro para kasi sa kin parang yun team lang nila nonoy tsaka yun team ni dick ang medyo makapagtitiwalaan walang bahid pa ang mga records unlike yun iba obviously gahaman sa kapangyarihan tulad na lang yun mga ibang kandidato na natalo nun last election sige pa din ang tibay ang lakas ng mga fighting spirit e sukang suka na ang mga tao sa TRAPO
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2010, 09:11:21 am »
wag nyo naman husgahan si villar.... o ito kantahin nyo na lang bago jingle para sa kanya

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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010, 11:01:21 am »
Quote from: ThePunisher on January 16, 2010, 12:02:47 pm
naalala ko yung sinabi ni Noynoy,
ang tanong, ano ang unang papansinin pag nasa pwesto na, something like that...
lahat ng presidentiables na nauna sinasabi yung puro tungkol sa kahirapan,
edukasyon, etc...
ang sagot naman ni Noynoy titignan muna kung May budget ba para dun..
parang mas realistic naman tong si noynoy, mas boto ako sakanya,
iba-iba naman tayo ng views eh, pero siya talaga ang feel kong iboto

so, ang ibig sabihin po ba ni noynoy, pag walang budget para sa edukasyon, hahayaan nalang? kay dick na ko, talagang ginagawa lahat ng paraan. kaso, nakakalungkot isiping tatalunin lang sya ng sikat na taong wala naman talagang nagawa.   opinyon ko lang po to.. hehehe
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 08:16:07 pm »
Quote from: raider150 on January 15, 2010, 01:53:27 am
I read an editorial (Philippine Star) yesterday by William Esposo entitled "The Biggest Campaign Spender Can be the Worst Possible Plunderer".

Anong opinion niyo?

Ako naniniwala dito. Ang hirap kasi maniwala na yung milyones/bilyones ng isang kandidato ay uubusin nila para kumabig lang ng kakarampot na sweldo bilang presidente ng Pilipinas. Siguradong tayo din ang magbabayad para sa mga campaign expenditures nila. Babawiin din nila yan.



sama mo ko dyan kapatid! mabuhay ka! toast:: totoo yan!
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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 08:47:40 pm »
Everybody knows naman na Mr. Billy is rooting for Mr. Noynoy.  Hence, that praise release masquerading as a column.

Given na lahat sila ay gagastos ng malaki, buti pa na si Mr. Manny dahil sarili lang nya ang may karapatan bumawi compared sa iba na kukuha pa ng donors na marami eh di malamang, lahat pagbibigyan.  Since pinamahala na ni Mr. Noynoy kay Uncle P. ang biznes side ng campaign nya, balik na naman tayo sa Kamaganak Inc. pag ito ang nanalo.  So para magkaroon ka ng appointment, kakausapin mo muna si Mr. Boy Abunda para makahingi ng appointment kay Ms. Kris.  Dahil wala naman political savy, mag consult si Ms. Kris kay Uncle P at pag si Uncle P ang nag decide, may magagawa pa ba ang pamangkin maski Pangulo na ito?  (When they were buying a car, note this attitude to hubby of Ms. Kris who may become the Press Secretary:  Yan na lang kotse na yan dahil hindi naman ikaw ang magbabayad.)

Dahil gumastos ng malaki ay magiging plunderer na? Any student of Logic will tell you that it is a non sequitur.  For most, malaki na yan nagastos ni Mr. Manny pero in truth, bawi na nya yan coz nun pumunta ang kaibigan ko para mag road show ang Vista Land sa Europe about a month ago eh kumita na sila at nakabawi na.  Hindi na nya kailangan bumawi pa pag upo nya, if ever.  All the other candidates ay kailangan bumawi pa pero si Mr. Manny ay nakabawi na at yan ang advantage nya sa lahat.  Maraming Pinoy sa Europe lalo na sa Italy at napakarami gusto bumili pabahay at condo for their families instead of sending money na nauubos lamang.

Yun kaisipan ni Mr. Noynoy na depende ang mga programang pangmasa sa budget is the very same mentality ni Mr. Gibo saying na hindi sila handa for Ondoy. Hinuhubog isip ng Pinoy na maging doleout dependent making us more mendicant to foreign aid or foreign borrowing imbes na goading the Pinoy to proceed to greater heights maski wala or starting from scratch or mag sariling sikap.

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Re: Biggest Campaign Spender = Worst Possible Plunderer
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2010, 08:52:03 pm »
ot... kaya ako... balik kay erap na lang siguro ako...
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