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DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« on: November 26, 2009, 04:53:12 am »
sa nangyayari sa ngayon parang nawawalan na ng demokrasya yung mga nasa kapangyarihan lang ang may control sa lahat. Kahit baluktot kayang-kaya gawin hanggat gusto basta nasa pwesto... ang mali ginagawang tama, ang batas nasa papel na lang kasi sila na ang pumalit. ang justice for sale na kasing nabibili na basta may pera.. ang  eleksyon at mga boto props na lang kasi may nakaready na para sa kandidato... ang pondo ng gobyerno andun napunta na sa mansyon ng pangulo, sasakyan ni governor, lupa ni congressman, resort ni mayor etc...


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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2009, 05:02:53 am »
ganyan talaga ka rumi ang politiko sa pinas..

kaya ngayong election VOTE wise mga kapatid...

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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2009, 06:14:00 am »
The government is the product of its people.

The Filipino people, from the bottom of the social order up to the top of the food chain, actually took democracy and freedom to a level where it's literally every man for himself.
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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2009, 06:20:32 am »
Justice is only possible if it is backed up by the force of the law.

People can only demand from the government if the government fears its people. This government does not fear the Filipino people. Justice belongs to whoever has the means and the will to enforce his political will.

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2009, 06:38:58 am »
hey jake, ilang taon ka na bro... DATI NG WALA YAN!. panahon lang ni madame cory, and i think a year na nabalik ang demokrasya. 40 years na hawak ng gobyerno ang mga filipino (if i'm not mistaken)

hindi pa ba natin alam yon? nagiging puppet tayo ng malacanang. ( speaking from a UP grad.)

all we have to do is make or lives better, kasi wala na tayong magagawa about our government.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2009, 06:41:37 am »
eto ang naging resulta sa kapabayan ng ibang botante sa pagpili ng kanilang candidate. Mabayaran lang sila ng kunti payag na. Pag sikat ang pulitiko, ayos na.

Kaya sana sa darating na eleksyon lets vote wisely. Madaming pwede pero di natin nabibigyan ng pagkakataon. Nakakainis man, pero wala akung magawa na ito ang kinbibilangan kung mundo.

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2009, 06:45:35 am »
hey jake, ilang taon ka na bro... DATI NG WALA YAN!. panahon lang ni madame cory, and i think a year na nabalik ang demokrasya. 40 years na hawak ng gobyerno ang mga filipino (if i'm not mistaken)

hindi pa ba natin alam yon? nagiging puppet tayo ng malacanang. ( speaking from a UP grad.)

all we have to do is make or lives better, kasi wala na tayong magagawa about our government.

cheers!

FYI alam ko na dati ng wala ang punto dito is bakit hinayaang mawala...


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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2009, 06:46:54 am »
and i don't think it's about election or about any 'voter is',  the TS is talking about. it's about DEMOCRACY people.


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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2009, 06:48:42 am »
FYI alam ko na dati ng wala ang punto dito is bakit hinayaang mawala...

then why make a thread...?


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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2009, 06:51:43 am »
then why make a thread...?


cheers!

To exchange opinions. . .  Now if you don't have anything to share, just respect the thread. . .  ;D

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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2009, 06:53:47 am »
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then why make a thread...?


cheers!

lol kala ko ba up grad ka eh bat slow ka  ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao obvious ba na kaya ko ginawa tong thread na to is para magsilbing paalala sa ting lahat na nawawala na sa tamang direction bansa natin.


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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2009, 06:56:47 am »
ganto yan bro, iba iba ang isip ng tao. merong straight, merong taliwas. pano kung kung napunta tayo sa mga isip taliwas nuong pang 40yrs, ( if i'm not mistaken ) di ba tyaga tayo, sa walang demokrasya? maswerte ka pa nga inabutan mo yung pag hinde ka bumoto eh, makukulong ka. that's though the system in out time. kaya bro enjoy tong as they say " Our Democracy in the Philippines "

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2009, 06:58:14 am »
daming moderator ah... sorry for the moderator of this thread man..

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2009, 07:19:34 am »
Freely Criticizing that our country don't have the principle of democracy is democracy itself...

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2009, 07:31:38 am »
lol kala ko ba up grad ka eh bat slow ka  ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao obvious ba na kaya ko ginawa tong thread na to is para magsilbing paalala sa ting lahat na nawawala na sa tamang direction bansa natin.

you don't say from the start na paalala, para kang actibistang hilaw nyan.


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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2009, 07:36:35 am »
Ganito lang yan Bro!   smoking::


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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2009, 07:40:32 am »
Ganito lang yan Bro!   smoking::



marahas ka naman bro, pero pwede... :D


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« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2009, 07:42:39 am »
hey jake, ilang taon ka na bro... DATI NG WALA YAN!. panahon lang ni madame cory, and i think a year na nabalik ang demokrasya. 40 years na hawak ng gobyerno ang mga filipino (if i'm not mistaken)

hindi pa ba natin alam yon? nagiging puppet tayo ng malacanang. ( speaking from a UP grad.)

all we have to do is make or lives better, kasi wala na tayong magagawa about our government.

cheers!

So let's take your word for it. How will you describe democracy to kid?

I'm expecting a profound answer from a UP grad.

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2009, 07:48:28 am »
So let's take your word for it. How will you describe democracy to kid?

I'm expecting a profound answer from a UP grad.

well said boss. . .

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2009, 07:56:25 am »
So let's take your word for it. How will you describe democracy to kid?

I'm expecting a profound answer from a UP grad.

hey Turon, hindi ko kailangan ipagmayabang ang alam ko. I'm 37 yrs old, and i know things more than you do. being a UP grad does not meant that he should boast he's knowledge out. I know things,  and I'm a streets smart guy. Nasabi ko na right? Hindi ka ba marunong mag backread? I've been through debates in my life, don't let me please. With respect to the TS and to you, Ive been there, yung tanong mo nga na " How will you describe democracy?" maybe ilang tao and ilang event na ang nagtanong nyan.

Simple bro, just backread, andun na yung essence ng gusto kong iparating.
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« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2009, 08:05:30 am »
As an ideal, lagi naman may democracy.  Yun lang interpretasyon nito sa pananaw ng karamihan sa Pinoy ngayon ang nanaig, na akala ng Pinoy ngayon, democracy is doing anything na gusto nila without taking responsibility sa kanilang action.  The vote is a very sacred part of the democratic process, in fact, it is the very essence of democracy but ang problema ay ipinawalang bahala ng karamihan ang importansya nito.  Nuong panahon ni Mr. Ferdinand, walang election.  Nagkaroon tayo ng election ngayon pero ano ang ginawa ng marami - ipinagbili ang kanilang boto or hindi bumoto ng tama, naghalal ng mga gago dahil nadala ng propaganda at hindi nag isip. Halimbawa ngayon, pagpipilian lamang ang isang butangero, isang sikat na maglulupa, isang anak ng dating pulitiko at isang abugado.  Yun na lang ba ang pwede natin pagpilian?  Why do we limit our choices dun lang sa apat na lahat naman ay di marunong sumunod sa batas - may batas against premature campaigning?  Pag nanalo ang isa man sa mga yan, we only have ourselves to blame dahil hindi tayo na naman nag isip sino ang dapat na iluklok sa pwesto.  At pag nagkaloko loko na naman eh sasabihin na wala demokrasya.

To give a concrete example, naghalal ng pari sa Pampanga na akala nila na ang pagiging hindi magnanakaw ay sapat na.  Wala naman palang alam sa governance ang pari, ang alam lang ay paramihin ang pera ng bayan.  Pero hindi naman pagpaparami lang ng pera sa kaban ng bayan ang essence ng governance.  So ang pera ay nakadeposito lang sa bangko at hindi nagagawa ang maraming gustong gawin ng mga mayor sa kanilang lugar.  Baka maghalal na naman tayo ng hindi nga magnanakaw dahil gusto daw nitong preserve ang magandang pangalan ng magulang pero baka hindi na naman din ito marunong ng governance so ganun din mangyari sa buong Pinas tulad ng nangyari sa Pampanga.  Maghalal tayo ng butangero na kinalakihan na ang pagiging tomador eh mawawala ba yan bigla sa loob ng tatlong taon ng pagkakulong?

The price of democracy is vigilance.  Nuong ipinaglaban natin ang kalayaan, maski ang makakaliwa ay naging fence sitter na lamang ng kasaysayan - napag iwanan sila instead na sila sana ang vanguard ng struggle.  Nagawa na natin magkaisa nuon upang baguhin ang sistema at maaari na naman natin gawin yun if only we act as one and be vigilant with our rights.  Let us not be just fence sitters witnessing history unfold in front of our very eyes - let us all be participants in making democracy work.  Kalimutan na natin ang attitude na iaasa lang sa mga opisyal ng pamahalaan ang pagpapatakbo ng bansa - let us be active in making democracy work. We owe that to ourselves and to the next generation of Pinoys.



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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2009, 08:34:48 am »
UP grad??? baka naman sa Unahan ng Petron na school ka graduate lol ::lmao ::lmao ::lmaoka


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« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2009, 08:38:44 am »
UP grad??? baka naman sa Unahan ng Petron na school ka graduate lol ::lmao ::lmao ::lmaoka

sabi mo eh...

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Re: DEMOKRASYA.... Merun pa ba? Andyan ka pa ba? Asan ka na?
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2009, 09:29:34 am »
OT: punto sa punto eh sa makasalanan ako.............

wag kasi basta mag start ng thread kung wala namang patutunguhan.....

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2009, 09:51:21 am »
hindi pa ba natin alam yon? nagiging puppet tayo ng malacanang. ( speaking from a UP grad.)

all we have to do is make or lives better, kasi wala na tayong magagawa about our government.

cheers!

Maybe you need to check your previous post again.. then tell me again that you're not bragging.

Like if you ask Gibo, In each statement that he says, we won't include (speaking from a Harvard grad.) something like that on his statements.