Topic: Gibo for 2010

[Zornhau]

- is it logical? being a BAR TOPNOTCHER?! = Talino in superlative form?
ok so GALING AT TALINO na.. ok fine...
and then saan na ba niya nagamit?
para umangat ang imahe ng Pinas?

Secretary Of Defense VS Secretary of Tourism...
ano ang may naipakitang RESULTA?
kung parehong mahirap na trabaho, RESULTA ang tingnan natin.
uulitin ko..
lahat ng plataporma ni Gibo, o ibang presidentiables man...
ALREADY NAGAWA na ni Gordon.
maliit man ang Olongapo, but still we're looking for a POSITIVE RESULT.
POSITIVE OUTCOME.

Paano mo mararamdaman at makikita ang effects ng nagawa ng isang DND Secretary? Maybe if you work for the military or you follow developments in the military siguro makikita mo.

Saka isa pa... Bakit pilit na pinagcocompare ang accomplishments ng isang nagtrabaho bilang SBMA administrator sa DND Sec.? Magkaiba ang fields nila. Industrial sector ang pinagsilbihan ni Gordon as SBMA at matagal at matanda na siya sa government. Malamang maraming  jobs ang maiibibigay ni Gordon sa nature ng work niya. Samantalang sa DND Secretary puro gyera at logistics ng military ang inaasikaso. So malamang mas mabango talaga ang image ni Gordon. Simply put mas marami makakarelate sa trabaho nya.

Di mo naman pwede isabat kay Gordon na... Si Gordon ba nakapag hanap ng libreng 10+ na trainer planes para sa PAF? Take note libre yun hah at eroplano pa yun. Whereas si Gibo lang naman nakagawa nun among the candidates.

[spikespeigel]

Paano mo mararamdaman at makikita ang effects ng nagawa ng isang DND Secretary? Maybe if you work for the military or you follow developments in the military siguro makikita mo.

Saka isa pa... Bakit pilit na pinagcocompare ang accomplishments ng isang nagtrabaho bilang SBMA administrator sa DND Sec.? Magkaiba ang fields nila. Industrial sector ang pinagsilbihan ni Gordon as SBMA at matagal at matanda na siya sa government. Malamang maraming  jobs ang maiibibigay ni Gordon sa nature ng work niya. Samantalang sa DND Secretary puro gyera at logistics ng military ang inaasikaso. So malamang mas mabango talaga ang image ni Gordon. Simply put mas marami makakarelate sa trabaho nya.

Di mo naman pwede isabat kay Gordon na... Si Gordon ba nakapag hanap ng libreng 10+ na trainer planes para sa PAF? Take note libre yun hah at eroplano pa yun. Whereas si Gibo lang naman nakagawa nun among the candidates.

Sure we didnt feel his work at the DND but we most certainly saw all the ammo and guns marked with the AFP arsenal taken from the Ampatuans in Maguindanao. Also we didnt feel his work at the NDCC when Ondoy struck. It's certainly most reassuring to see the concurent DND Secretary and NDCC Chaiman on T.V. during that time admitting the government has been stumped. It should have been better if he shot himself on the end with an AFP take from the Ampatuans.

[perverted26]

Si Gibo???
Magaling at Matalino yan!!!

Sa sobrang galing at talino, HINDI NAGPAALAM kay Rico Blanco na gagamitin yung kanta niya sa kanyang ad campaign!!!
watdaffffff!!!!
Magaling...
Matalino...

[gkhan]

From what I understand Paulo, you're seriously considering Erap because he was able to "eradicate" the Abu Sayaff.

Quite frankly, I think what Erap did was simply put a band aid to the wound. I mean, Abu Sayaff has affiliations with Al Qaeda & even the USA hasn't been able to eradicate them, how much so for Erap?

Personally I'm utterly dumbfounded why there are some people who still think Erap has a shot. I'm sure you have heard & seen that Erap was impeached, convicted & imprisoned. Does that count something for you?

You might think that PGMA also has some monkey business but that hasn't been proven yet.

Innocent until proven otherwise.

In Erap's case, there were several evidences of his monkey business so as far as the law goes, we can officially say that Erap stole the people's money & squandered them for his own interest.

So in essence, you're practically saying that you might vote someone who is a convicted theif, a womanizer & a big fat liar to become the next president of the Philippines?

Given the way our judiciary system is being managed, hindi nangangahulugan na pag na convict or imprisoned ang isang tao ay may kasalanan na itong nagawa or totoo ang mga ibinintang sa kanya.  For the record, Mr. Joseph was never impeached - hindi naman natapos ang paglilitis dahil nag iiyak na si Ms. Loren sa entablado at nag drama with her moralspeak while making yakap to Mr. Nene.  Mr. Ninoy was convicted and imprisoned but does that mean that he was really guilty of the accusations? On the other hand, dahil ba walang conviction ay wala ng kasalanan?  So dahil walang conviction si Mr. Ruben at si Ms. Gloria (all purchases above PP50 Million needs Presidential approval), how do you explain the Supreme Court ordering Mega Pacific na ibalik ang PP12 Billion na pinambili ng depektibong election machines - hindi tama ang pagbili at walang may kasalanan sa bilihan?

No written document explicitly indicate na may ninakaw si Mr. Joseph pero may verdict ang court of conviction. Dahil ba may conviction ay may pagkakasala na ang tao? Ang dami ng instances na may mga nakakulong na convicted pero after several years, the court itself finds the record na mali and sets the imprisoned person free.  For the uninitated, the GMA Cabal has to make a conviction maski walang kasalanan because pag walang conviction, illegal ang presidency ni Ms. Glorya. They have to cloth their power grab with legalese. Magiging legal lang ang presidency ni Ms. Glorya if Mr. Joseph is convicted.  Pulitika ang laro so sorry na lang si Mr. Joseph - that's the game.  In fact, they even have to invent a new political animal called "constructive resignation".  Maski walang kasalanan si Mr. Joseph, he has to be convicted at yan ang katotohanan at naiintindihan din naman yan ni Mr. Joseph.  Kaya nga obligado si Ms. Glorya na palayain si Mr. Joseph kasi alam naman nila na wala naman talagang ninakaw yun tao pero they have to give a nice and credible show to the public.

Viz those Al Qaeda, hindi nga ba US din ang nag finance kay Bin Laden nuong una laban sa mga Russians?  Who knows if it is the military industrial complex which have to continously create a credible cause of fear to justify a continuing gargantuan military budget? Might it also be the same na kailangan din ng ating military ang dahilan for them to create an Abu Sayaf upang patuloy ang malaking budget nila?  Those guys are a necessary evil pero kailangan din suhetuin pag lumabis.  Of all those presidential candidates, I feel it is only Mr. Joseph, being street smart that he is, who has the balls to stop them.  Why did Mr. Gibo played footsies with them instead of crushing them totally while being the DND Sec?

[bulyot]

id rather go for gibo than noynoy!!!

[paulo]

well, that depends from whose point of view you will see the matter of what the person has done in the past to merit him top position in our country. For me who suports Noynoy whom you view in your other posts in other threads as walang binatbat. I view the Presidency as a gun, even though it is fully loaded and very lethal, it is a tool for peace in the hands of conscientious law enforcer but it is a tool for terror and mayhem  in the hands of a bank robber or a terrorist.

Like the gun which by itself is lethal in nature, the Presidency is also imbued with powers that makes the position highly destructive if it falls into the hands of men of dubious character. Such precisely is the reason why we prefer Noynoy over the others because  we beleive that he has the character necessary to weld the powers of the presidency for the good of our people.

Character doesn't come with capability. Even if you say that he is morally upright and has the right attitude (which I don't believe), it doesn't give him the ability to make a change. It has to be someone who has the brains, the guts to get the job done. I believe all the candidates have an inclination for the good of the nation, I'd rather choose someone who wants to help and is capable of it than someone who wants to help (or is forced to help) but can't do it. To throw in an analogy: even if you wanted to solve a complex mathematical equation with all your heart, but you didn't know the necessary methods and formulae to go about it, you wouldn't get anywhere.

[Zornhau]

Sure we didnt feel his work at the DND but we most certainly saw all the ammo and guns marked with the AFP arsenal taken from the Ampatuans in Maguindanao. Also we didnt feel his work at the NDCC when Ondoy struck. It's certainly most reassuring to see the concurent DND Secretary and NDCC Chaiman on T.V. during that time admitting the government has been stumped. It should have been better if he shot himself on the end with an AFP take from the Ampatuans.

Alam mo, lahat naman ng government organizations may kanya kanyang mga bulok yan, walang perpektong solusyon sa corruption. Hindi naman lahat ng problema ng corruption ng AFP kayang sagutin ng DND sa loob ng dalawang taon o kahit lifetime pa. Bagamat may bakas ng corruption sa AFP, di naman ibig sabihin na walang ginawa si Teodoro laban sa corruption. Kung nabalitaan niyo na yung tungkol sa NCAH (Night Capable Attack Hellicopter) deal ng DND. Makikita naman natin na tinugunan ni Teodoro ang isang tangkang pagnakaw sa PAF. Cancelled agad ang deal at tinanggal ang mga bidder na nasangkot bago mangyari ang bayaran.

Tandaan lang natin na ang primary mission ng DND ay upang ipagtanggol ang pilipino, ang republica at ang mga interests nito. Isama narin natin ang pag provide sa pangangailangan ng AFP. Hindi naman dinisenyo ang DND-AFP para labanan ang corruption. Bagamat responsibilidad ng AFP na ituwid ang mali nila, malamang na hindi lahat ay maaagapan. Sabi nga ng iba. Everybody has a price. At maraming pangbayad at panakot si Ampatuan sa mga yan.

Saka isa pa. Ano pa nga ba ang gagawin ni Teodoro nung mangyari ang Ampatuan Massacre? Eh diba wala na siya sa DND nuon? Kung yung massacre lang din mismo eh Filipino Citizen naman si Ampatuan at isang Government official. Di naman siya radical na terrorista, rebelde o banyagang mananakop. Problema ito ng DILG at PNP. Krimen ito eh. Hindi na kasama sa trabaho ng AFP yan. Napilitan lang talaga i marshall law dahil lumpo ang justice system sa lugar na yun.



Eto lang masasabi ko. Kung Ondoy lang din ang usapan.
Kung sisisihin nyo parin ang NDCC sa nangyari sa hagupit ni Ondoy eh...
Di nyo naiintindihan ang lakas at kaguluhang ginawa ni Ondoy.

Hindi po isang pangkaraniwang Signal #1 na Bagyo si Ondoy, paalala ko lang.

Subukan mo alamin kung ilang personnel ng AFP ang na tap nila para tumulong sa Metro Manila. nasa 100,000 plus ang tauhan ng AFP. Spread out sa buong archipelago.

Isipin mo nalang ang naging epekto ng heavy flooding sa transportation system ng Metro Manila. Paano makaka-galaw ang mga tutulong na units at kagamitan?

Ilang tao nga ba ang naapektohan sa Marikina, Quezon City, Pasig City? more than 500,000? Millions?

Subukan mo nalang i compare yun sa available resources ng DND.
Game.

Be reasonable na lang. Kung babanggitin mo si Ondoy lang din.
 

[Idiot]

kahit wala na sya sa DND

1. how come nakakabili ang mga taga-mindanao ng baril sa AFP
2. Matagal na ang problema patayan sa Maguindanao bago at before syang umalis sa DND how come wala syang nagawang solusyon or will man lang pwede naman mag-takeover ang AFP kung hindi kaya ng PNP at that time may mga variables na yan nasa priority lang ng Gabinete

NDCC- disorganized kaya sila tapos yung mga head matatanda na tapos yung iba hindi qualified kase may nagback-up lang sila para makapasok sa

at wala silang plano sa ganitong scenario kase may pera kapag disorganized ang mga plan at para ma-organized ito kailangan ulit ng pera

noon nag-tatrabaho ako oriented na kami sa agency namin malakas man o mahina ang bagyo may path kaming susundin in case mangyari ang ganito or lumubog ang ganito may mga command post ng naka-aasign kapag lumaki ng ganito ang tubig, naka ready na den yung mga paglilipatan at may coordination sa DepEd, oriented na ang mga barangay captains at alam nila kung saan nila dadalhin ang mga nasasakupan nila ewan ko sa NDCC kung bakit disorganized sila

[Zornhau]

I'll try to answer no.1

Ganyan talaga kapag may pera ka at may kakilala ka sa pulis o militar. Ka-kontsabahin mo lang yung isang officer sabihin mo bilin mo na yung isang rifle.. Idedeclare ng officer as "lost" yung baril tapos siguro palusot nalang. Tutal pag na declare na "lost" tapos maganda ang palusot o kaya kasamahan din yung nag aaccount sa mga baril malamang di na makikita talaga yun.

Subukan ko na rin mag opinyon sa no. 2 mo sir Idiot.

Ganun nga ang pagkaka-alam ko na merong mga command posts sa areas na inaasahang babahain.

Pero how about dun sa Ondoy's case? Lower Antipolo, Quezon City, Cainta, Pasig. Areas yan na hindi naman talaga binabaha, except dun sa Marikina. Meron din kaya nakalatag na command posts dun sa mga areas na yun? Kahit ang alam nila dati hindi binabaha yung areas na yun. Parang sa may katipunan road ata nag setup ng command post si Gibo nung Ondoy.

[paulo]

Yung Ondoy ay talagang resulta ng pagkakalat ng mga tao at poor city planning. Gibo did what he could when disaster struck, pero wala ako masabi tungkol sa organization, etc. dahil wala naman ako diyan. Ang alam ko lang lagi siya nasa news nung time na yun, at yung memorable na sinabi ni GMA nung di niya alam na live broadcast pala yun.

[tingrenato]

  Gibo is intelligent walang duda diyan and fitted to be President ,  pero ito ang nakakatakot na scenario:

     Gibo president + lakas dominated congress (House of Representatives) =  GMA as Prime Minister

   Gusto ba natin ang ganoong situation? Pagisipan lang po natin. Ang Prime Minister GMA ay maaring for life! Mahirap na palitan yan dahil parliament  na ang pipili ng Prime Minister hindi na tayo. Walang term limits ang Prime Minister, habang gusto siya ng parliament.

[equinexxus]

simply Gibo for president...