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: Duterte has gone full retard
: bigbanggoo October 21, 2016, 08:52:25 AM
http://www.rappler.com/nation/149806-duterte-announces-military-economic-split-from-us

Welp should have seen this coming. Sabi nga, if you can't beat them, give them all you have and join them and get rid of your friends lol.
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: naruto789544 October 21, 2016, 09:36:07 AM
is this a high level bluff that he is planning to get leverage from the americans? don't really know what to think now...
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: clark.kent October 21, 2016, 10:32:01 AM
is this a high level bluff that he is planning to get leverage from the americans? don't really know what to think now...

i do hope so. Japan is already looking to meet him and Abe wants to talk to him privately already regarding some investments and other things that can help our economy. Russia is also inviting him asap. Besides, i don't expect much from the next US President cause frankly, Hillary can't help you and Trump is thinking more about the US citizens themselves rather than other countries.
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: tiberionx October 21, 2016, 10:47:06 AM
^ Good point. parang preemptive measures na nga ang ginawa ng pangulo kasi parehong ampaw ang candidates ng US
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: bigbanggoo October 21, 2016, 10:49:06 AM
I don't think it's a bluff, sadly commie talaga si Duterte.
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: freeyourmind October 21, 2016, 12:02:26 PM
the previous pro-democracy and democracy style govt was no different than the current pro-communist and communist style govt..what individual economic progress has undertaken? the country still acts like a desperate whore/slave to foreigners. the country has no brains. perhaps it needs to learn the hard way (get rid of the "ala family "monarchy" on every province/city" like the 17th century europe. the drug problem, similar to the opium wars in china. the religious lunacy. govt reforms..ethnic unity problem =divisions/discrimination) you could recreate all those revolutions/reforms like the rest of the world did in 15th-21st century. but every war is different. what style of govt does this country what? first it needs to learn how to run a country.
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: rodeo October 21, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
change is coming but not all changes are good..... ;D ;D ;D ;D sana ang naging slogan nila "change for the best"
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: KaMushroom October 21, 2016, 12:34:23 PM
So, Kailangan talagang i break ang ties just to get more? I would understand if he didn't come to china licking their asses. May pa me you against the world pang drama. I dont know why most people cant see through this. Ganito ba talaga pag in denial?
As a democratic, majorly catholic, freedom loving people, why would it make more sense to be an ally of something that is the opposite of what all our heroes fought for?
Buti pa iabolish nalang lahat ng bayaning lumaban para sa kalayaan.
Nagmamaang maangan ang mga taong its just about economics bla bla.
It goes way deeper into sino ba mas kapareho natin ng values na pinapahalagahan as a filipino. China ba talaga? Kahit parehas tayong asian parang gago nalang magsasabing kapareho natin sila.
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: bigbanggoo October 21, 2016, 12:39:58 PM
Exactly. Hindi naman nya kelangang basta basta idescard na lang yung long time allies nya. Pwede naman syang makipag negotiate with China while sticking with our allies. Kung yung US at China nga mismo may healthy trade and business relationship e.
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: KaMushroom October 21, 2016, 12:51:56 PM
Exactly. Hindi naman nya kelangang basta basta idescard na lang yung long time allies nya. Pwede naman syang makipag negotiate with China while sticking with our allies. Kung yung US at China nga mismo may healthy trade and business relationship e.

Oo nga, diko maintindihan. Magkaaway ba china at Us? may cold war ba uli? Wala naman ah. Ano ba problema?

Kung talagang sumusunod ka kay duterte eh makikita mo na may something na sa china at kay pduts  nun palang bumisita sila sakanya. Walang matinong backer pero may pera? considering Marcos and the US's bad shit and finally revealing imee is one of his financial backers, imeelio aguinaldo nga. kaya pala may pause dun sa pagkasabi niya.
Turning away UN at US? Dahil sa pagprobe ng EJK? really? Napakaliit na bagay. 3k ang namamatay. This is bad but not that gadhaffi bad or something para pagpyestahan. Ginagawang dahilan para sabihing inaaway siya. Setup na setup eh.

We dont even do that to the usa. Me and U.S. against the world. Obama-senpai help me. SUS.
I love the Philippines kahit di ko maisabuhay yung "ang mamatay ng dahil sayo" atleast di ako papayag na aangkinin nila ang atin ng wala manlang kibit balikat galing sa representative ko. He didnt even try.
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: Zbuffer101 October 21, 2016, 03:54:49 PM
Full retard  ? same as our previous president ?  laffman::
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: burnhito October 21, 2016, 05:04:17 PM
If this charade is to gain some leverage on US. I don't think so...

If Clinton wins, expect a tremendous economic, political, and intellegent backlash to regain us. Is Middle East and Libyan conflicts ring a bell?

If Trump wins, expect nothing to worst because he will overhaul US' foreign and economic policies, focusing more on US. He will be glad in cutting us off.
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: bodieph October 21, 2016, 08:03:37 PM
i think its a well calculated move. as mentioned, if trump wins, relations will likely go sour. if clinton wins, expect that things will stay the same.

but now, with the sudden change, it will force the US to rethink its strategy in dealing with the Philippines. Perhaps that is the goal all along. to let the US realize that they have not helped as much as they should have (the aid we get pales in comparison to what the US gives to its other allies). with what happened, if trump wins, most likely he wont care about it so the Philippines still doesn't lose since they have a new partner in China. If clinton wins, expect the US will likely be aggressive in trying to improve relations with the Philippines (i.e. the US might probably try to match or even surpass what China offered)

Strike while the iron is hot kung baga. At this point, dealing with China now offers more leverage than dealing with them later. And at this time, China is all open arms and welcoming. That might not be the case in the future. The trip to China has brought in huge investments, huge investments that I don't recall the US offered.
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: etong October 21, 2016, 08:38:06 PM

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To summarize the politics discussion.
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: weng151515 October 21, 2016, 11:26:13 PM
 a real specie of a lunatic person...

DUTERTE

RETURTED...
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: KaMushroom October 21, 2016, 11:30:06 PM
Binawi na. Haha ::laffman ::laffman
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: weng151515 October 22, 2016, 12:05:19 AM
ha ha ha...returted talaga...yung maka duterte dyan...baka may sarili din kayong explanation...to kasing returted na presidente natin pag nagsalita LATIN...kelangan ng mga explanation para maintindihan, ang problema bawat cabinet member iba iba paliwanag....ha ha ha,,,,
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: VeilSpy October 22, 2016, 12:09:42 AM
luwag ng mundo, kung feel nyo wasak na dito.. lipat lipat din..   

 ::laffman
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: weng151515 October 22, 2016, 12:52:37 AM
tama....luwag ng mundo ng presidenteng may maluwag na turnilyo..lipat lipat din ng napupusuan pag ganyan na mundo nya....
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: VeilSpy October 22, 2016, 01:05:23 AM
hirap kasi iasa lahat sa presidente. gawa gawa din. hindi yung hanap nalang ng puro sisi...  ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman

kahit sinu pa nakaupo jan.  ::laffman ::laffman
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: weng151515 October 22, 2016, 01:08:16 AM
ha ha ha...katwiran po yan wala ng maikatwiaran..pare pareho lang...kahit sino pa naka upo.....
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: ~mahilig~ October 22, 2016, 01:27:51 AM
yung analyst wannabe jan. kayo na lang kaya mag presidente. mga kupal kayo. bat di na lang suportahan at magkaisa para sa bansa. kesa naman lahat ng gawin ng kung sino man na presidente e kukwestyunin natin lahat. tae. lalo na ung mga taong walang pagkakaintindi sa history ng bansa. oo nga may freedom of expression tayo. pero kung gusto talga natin marinig ang hinaing natin idaan sa tamang proseso hindi ung puro sa social media mag sisigaw ng mga utot nila.
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: abdul jahkool October 22, 2016, 01:39:20 AM
And the retard just got home a $24 billion worth of investments and soft loans that could generate millions of jobs and infrastructure development. A possibility of having a bullet train connecting Subic and Clark, in a bid to de-congest Metro Manila of the traffic hoes.   Give a country Aid and feed them for a year, Teach a country to develop and you can feed them for a lifetime. Fucking retard of a president.  >:(
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: tigerwing October 22, 2016, 02:26:28 AM
And the retard just got home a $24 billion worth of investments and soft loans that could generate millions of jobs and infrastructure development. A possibility of having a bullet train connecting Subic and Clark, in a bid to de-congest Metro Manila of the traffic hoes.   Give a country Aid and feed them for a year, Teach a country to develop and you can feed them for a lifetime. Fucking retard of a president.  >:(

At ano naman kaya ang kapalit nyan?

Tingin nyo ba mag bibigay ang china for the walfare of the filipino people? The same china na nang gigipit sa mga maliliit nating mangingisda?.

Ninanakawan ka ng kapitbahay mo harap-harapan tapos binigyan ka lang ng pangkain isang gabi eh tuwang tuwa ka na at friends na kayo. Anong tawag sa ganun?
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: meteor freak October 22, 2016, 02:38:25 AM
ha ha ha...returted talaga...yung maka duterte dyan...baka may sarili din kayong explanation...to kasing returted na presidente natin pag nagsalita LATIN...kelangan ng mga explanation para maintindihan, ang problema bawat cabinet member iba iba paliwanag....ha ha ha,,,,


At sa tingin mo yung mga sinasabi mo ay may nadadagdag na tulong? yung mga critics pag hindi na alam ang gagawin hanggang name calling nalang. Binigyan nga tayo ng demokrasya para makapagpahayag ng saloobin, kasama ba sa demokrasya sinasabi nyo ang pang iinsulto?
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: abdul jahkool October 22, 2016, 02:47:20 AM
Tama, ano nga ba ang kapalit? Tumutulong ba ang ibang bansa ng walang kapalit?

Kapangyarihan lang naman ang pinagaagawan. Bakit ba tumutulong ang amerika sa pilipinas ng walang kapalit? Ano ba ang mapapala nila kung nagbabase sila sa ating bansa? Surely wala namang kapalit ang ginagawa ng amerika sa atin. talaga lamang kusang loob silang tumutulong para sa ikakabutin ng sandaigdigan.

Inaagaw ng China ang lupa ng pilipinas, samantalang sa history ng pilipinas ang amerika ang sumakop at bumalahura sa buong bansa natin. Salamat Amerika. Ginawa mong leverage ang arbitration case ng pilipinas para pasuking ang asia. Hindi Japan, hindi Vietnam kundi pilipinas lang ang sumunod sa utos mo.

Ano ba ang mapapala ng negosyo? hindi ba para kumita? ano ba ang mapapala ng pautang? di ba para magkainterest? Ano nga ba ang kapalit ng donasyon? di ba wala?
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: weng151515 October 22, 2016, 03:45:03 AM
At nagagalit ang mga maka duterte pag presidente returted ang tinitira at iniinsulto samantalang ang presidenteng yan mas grabe mang insulto...nanahimik lider ng US, ng UN at EU..insultuhin ba naman, pati nanahimik na ambassador tawaging gay....ha ha ha.....tama kayo dapat ngayon mag tulungsn tayo para maitama ang mali...ang napakamslaking pagkakamali na mailukluk ang returted na presidente...halina na po magkaisa tayo at tulong tulong...
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: tigerwing October 22, 2016, 05:18:30 AM

At sa tingin mo yung mga sinasabi mo ay may nadadagdag na tulong? yung mga critics pag hindi na alam ang gagawin hanggang name calling nalang. Binigyan nga tayo ng demokrasya para makapagpahayag ng saloobin, kasama ba sa demokrasya sinasabi nyo ang pang iinsulto?

Eh yung pang iinsulto at pag mumura ni duterte pinapansin mo ba? Yung pag tawag kay Pnoy na abnoy nag rereact ka ba? Oh bka naman para sa inyo  eh ok lang laitin at murahin lahat wag lang kayo at yung idol nyo?
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: burnhito October 22, 2016, 06:32:00 AM
i think its a well calculated move. as mentioned, if trump wins, relations will likely go sour. if clinton wins, expect that things will stay the same.

but now, with the sudden change, it will force the US to rethink its strategy in dealing with the Philippines. Perhaps that is the goal all along. to let the US realize that they have not helped as much as they should have (the aid we get pales in comparison to what the US gives to its other allies). with what happened, if trump wins, most likely he wont care about it so the Philippines still doesn't lose since they have a new partner in China. If clinton wins, expect the US will likely be aggressive in trying to improve relations with the Philippines (i.e. the US might probably try to match or even surpass what China offered)

Strike while the iron is hot kung baga. At this point, dealing with China now offers more leverage than dealing with them later. And at this time, China is all open arms and welcoming. That might not be the case in the future. The trip to China has brought in huge investments, huge investments that I don't recall the US offered.

Mas gusto ko ang iyong kuro-kuro sa "if Clinton wins", Sir Bodieph. Laban sa negatibong kuro-kuro ko sa kasalukuyang pangyayari sa ating bansa. Kahit na hindi mawaksi sa aking pagiisip ang mga negatibong pangayayari na pwedeng maganap sa ating bansa.

Maraming ng ginawa ang US na mga "below the belt" kampanya laban sa mga kaalyado ng bansang katunggalian nila. Kagaya ng mga bansa sa Gitnang Silangan, Timog Amerika at sama na ang Libya. Pero sana hindi mangyari ang mga negatibong iniisip ko.





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: meteor freak October 22, 2016, 06:44:05 AM
Eh yung pang iinsulto at pag mumura ni duterte pinapansin mo ba? Yung pag tawag kay Pnoy na abnoy nag rereact ka ba? Oh bka naman para sa inyo  eh ok lang laitin at murahin lahat wag lang kayo at yung idol nyo?

Syempre mali and i condemn that hindi ako sang ayon sa uri ng pananalita at pag tugon nya sa iba, pero dahil ba sa ganun siya kelangan ganun din kayo para makabawi lang kayo? mag lalaitan at mag iinsultuhan para sa ikauunlad ng bayan? Kayo din ma stress nyan, 6 years siyang uupo sa pwesto 6 years kayong magiging bitter nyan pwera nalang kung sasali kayo sa rally sa EDSA para mapatalsik sya ng mas maaga  :P :P :P
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: weng151515 October 22, 2016, 06:48:18 AM
yup malamang sasama kami sa EDSA if ever, maging makatotohanan lang ang kinabukasan nating lahat....as of now this country is under limbo, at the leadership of a lunatic president...
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: tigerwing October 22, 2016, 08:42:13 AM
Syempre mali and i condemn that hindi ako sang ayon sa uri ng pananalita at pag tugon nya sa iba, pero dahil ba sa ganun siya kelangan ganun din kayo para makabawi lang kayo? mag lalaitan at mag iinsultuhan para sa ikauunlad ng bayan? Kayo din ma stress nyan, 6 years siyang uupo sa pwesto 6 years kayong magiging bitter nyan pwera nalang kung sasali kayo sa rally sa EDSA para mapatalsik sya ng mas maaga  :P :P :P

Then call-out duterte and his supporters as well. Tell him to learn to shut-up first before complaining here. PRESIDENTE sya, of all people sya ang unang unang dapat maayos mag salita.  Ang problema kasi karamihan sa mga supporter ni digong double standards. Ok lang pag si digong ang nang iinsulto, nambabastos at nag mumura. Pero pag si digong ang ininsulto, binastos, at minura eh galit na galit. Lol..

Back to topic:

Digong is playing games with 2 superpowers. Sooner or later maiipit yan. Hindi naman pwede na forever nalang na mag lalabas sya ng statement tapos babawiin or i cclarify ng mga tao nya. There will come a time that he will need to make a stand kung saan talaga sya panig and for sure one side will be pissed. God knows what will they do and how it will affect the country.

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: SpyTamers October 22, 2016, 09:42:12 AM
ito na naman tayo pag walang gagawin ang Presidente sa pag solve ng crimes, corruptions at economy daming reklamo ngayon inaayos na reklamo parin.... dami  niyo palang tanga dito wahahhahahahaha :D

Alam niyo ang problema ng Pinas ay kayo mismo.... support the president all the way. Let him do the job lets enjoy the fruits of his hardwork. Talangka kasi mga muka niyo dito...... Crabs kung di niyo pa nakuha..... nawala na nga si abnoy may natira pa pala dito wahhahahahahha :D
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: bigbanggoo October 22, 2016, 10:05:24 AM
Full retard  ? same as our previous president ?  laffman::

Exactly. Some people thought he would be better, too bad it turned out worse.
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: tigerwing October 22, 2016, 10:24:20 AM
ito na naman tayo pag walang gagawin ang Presidente sa pag solve ng crimes, corruptions at economy daming reklamo ngayon inaayos na reklamo parin.... dami  niyo palang tanga dito wahahhahahahaha :D

Alam niyo ang problema ng Pinas ay kayo mismo.... support the president all the way. Let him do the job lets enjoy the fruits of his hardwork. Talangka kasi mga muka niyo dito...... Crabs kung di niyo pa nakuha..... nawala na nga si abnoy may natira pa pala dito wahhahahahahha :D

Support the president all the way? Even if we dont like where he is taking the country support parin? We shoud all be blind fanatics then..  ::laffman ::laffman

Did you support Pnoy or GMA or FVR all the way? They were Presidents too.. We have all the rights to critizize duterte as much as we want just as much as you have the right to call PNoy "abnoy"

Another double standard from an idiot dutertard..
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: Belphegor October 22, 2016, 11:12:34 AM
bakit hindi na lang muna tingnan kung ano kakalabasan ng mga pangyayari?
wala pa ngang outcome, pero sobrang daming speculations sa "posibleng" mangyari.
kahit pro or anti ka, gaano ka ka-sure na yung naiisip mo ang talagang mangyayari o magiging kinahinatnan ng mga nangyari?
wala pa 1 year yung tao, pero sa dami ng batikos parang lampas 6 years na.
you don't count chicks, without hatching the eggs first, di ba.
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: naruto789544 October 22, 2016, 11:41:34 AM
we would know by early next year if what he's doing will payoff... for now, i'm still trying to think on what is in his sleeve...
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: bigbanggoo October 22, 2016, 12:00:56 PM
bakit hindi na lang muna tingnan kung ano kakalabasan ng mga pangyayari?
wala pa ngang outcome, pero sobrang daming speculations sa "posibleng" mangyari.
kahit pro or anti ka, gaano ka ka-sure na yung naiisip mo ang talagang mangyayari o magiging kinahinatnan ng mga nangyari?
wala pa 1 year yung tao, pero sa dami ng batikos parang lampas 6 years na.
you don't count chicks, without hatching the eggs first, di ba.

Ganyang ganyan din yung sinabi nang mga tao kay Abnoy last term. Ke kakaupo pa lang at magintay muna hanggang sa umabot na nang 6 years ay wala pa rin. Tsaka wala naman kaming ineespeculate kasi yung mga sinasabi namin e nangyari na.
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: etong October 22, 2016, 12:03:49 PM
bakit hindi na lang muna tingnan kung ano kakalabasan ng mga pangyayari?
wala pa ngang outcome, pero sobrang daming speculations sa "posibleng" mangyari.
kahit pro or anti ka, gaano ka ka-sure na yung naiisip mo ang talagang mangyayari o magiging kinahinatnan ng mga nangyari?
wala pa 1 year yung tao, pero sa dami ng batikos parang lampas 6 years na.
you don't count chicks, without hatching the eggs first, di ba.

^up for this.

Walang patutunguhan pagaaway nyo hanggat wala pang resulta.

Stop the nonsense fights, name calling and bashing already. Walang aasenso sa inyo.
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: zeroskunx October 22, 2016, 07:22:18 PM
*grabs popcorn* natatawa nalang ako sa mga "ako ang tama, at may alam" na mga comments  bnana bnana
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: etong October 22, 2016, 09:46:52 PM
*grabs popcorn* natatawa nalang ako sa mga "ako ang tama, at may alam" na mga comments  bnana bnana

Hindi ko alam or magets ano pinaglalaban ng mga solid pro and anti. Hindi naman kayo mananalo ng premyo pag nanalo kayo sa debate nyo with matching name calling and insult pa. Hindi nyo pinapapakita na mas may alam at mas magaling kayo nyan. You are all just fighting whos the bigger "douchebag" in that case.

Hindi ba pwede debate without resorting to insults?

 ::dontflame ::wagbastos

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: pumpy October 23, 2016, 02:15:35 AM
"Duterte’s Flip-Flop Into Bed With China Is a Disaster for the United States"

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/20/rodrigo-dutertes-flip-flop-into-bed-with-china-is-a-disaster-for-the-united-states-south-china-sea/
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: SpyTamers October 23, 2016, 03:00:48 AM
Support the president all the way? Even if we dont like where he is taking the country support parin? We shoud all be blind fanatics then..  ::laffman ::laffman

Did you support Pnoy or GMA or FVR all the way? They were Presidents too.. We have all the rights to critizize duterte as much as we want just as much as you have the right to call PNoy "abnoy"

Another double standard from an idiot dutertard..

Why would i support Pnoy GMA or FVR are you nuts? comparing Duterte to them? you are an example of an idiot scumbag newbie. hehehehheheheh :D
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: weng151515 October 23, 2016, 03:55:06 AM
yup....Duterte is incomparable...he's a special specie of a lunatic president, FVR, GMA can be call Statesman, but Duterte pure LUNATIC...a special kind///
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: tigerwing October 23, 2016, 08:59:43 AM
Why would i support Pnoy GMA or FVR are you nuts? comparing Duterte to them? you are an example of an idiot scumbag newbie. hehehehheheheh :D

If you yourself cant give your support to a politician that you dont agree with, then why the hell are you telling us to support duterte all the way? If you have the right to choose who to support and who to critizize then why cant we? If you can call Pnoy abnoy whenever you see fit then we can call duterte a fucking idiot anytime as well.

Gets? Kaya na ba intindihin yan ng utak mo?

Oh baka naman akala mo special ka at yung idol mo? Lahat ng tao eh dapat agree at susunod sa gusto nyo. Bawal kumontra, support lang ng support ganun ba? Kasi lahat ng gawin ni panginoong Digong tama and beyond contest.  ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman
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: naruto789544 October 23, 2016, 12:00:20 PM
this topic could go either way... it really depends on who are you with.... the reason many see du30 as different isi because of the way he thinks and acts... let us respect each other's view... let us make this discussion a healthy and productive one...
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: SpyTamers October 24, 2016, 12:22:25 AM
If you yourself cant give your support to a politician that you dont agree with, then why the hell are you telling us to support duterte all the way? If you have the right to choose who to support and who to critizize then why cant we? If you can call Pnoy abnoy whenever you see fit then we can call duterte a fucking idiot anytime as well.

Gets? Kaya na ba intindihin yan ng utak mo?

Oh baka naman akala mo special ka at yung idol mo? Lahat ng tao eh dapat agree at susunod sa gusto nyo. Bawal kumontra, support lang ng support ganun ba? Kasi lahat ng gawin ni panginoong Digong tama and beyond contest.  ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman

Wow wahahhahaha that brainless of yours makes no sense. You can call Duterte any names you want but I know you are enjoying things he has done in just 3 months. What a hypocrite one you are wahahhahahahah :D  ::laffman

Or baka gusto mo isasahin ko pa :D wahhahahahah :D ::laffman
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: tigerwing October 24, 2016, 01:52:57 AM
Wow wahahhahaha that brainless of yours makes no sense. You can call Duterte any names you want but I know you are enjoying things he has done in just 3 months. What a hypocrite one you are wahahhahahahah :D  ::laffman

Or baka gusto mo isasahin ko pa :D wahhahahahah :D ::laffman

Apparently your feeble mind still cant comprehend.  ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman

Oh and Im pretty sure you are using and enjoying the things brought about by the eforts of previous admins (FVR, GMA, PNoy) as well. Yet you critizize them to the point of calling one "abnoy". So whos the bigger hipocrite now?

But dont worry, we get it now. Digong is infallible. We should all give him praise and our outmost support. ::laffman
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: rodeo October 24, 2016, 08:06:17 AM
to sum up...

maganda naman ang nagawa ni duterte sa peace and order yun nga lang maraming ejk. 

pero ang main problem kasi ni duterte is parang personalan ang away niya ng USA  which is hindi dapat kasi representative siya ng Philippines before siya mag salita dapat consult muna siya sa mga gabinete niya  para naman hindi kamot ulo mga gabinete niya kapag may sinabi siya....
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: naruto789544 October 24, 2016, 10:27:11 AM
that is also my worry... instead of losing friends and allies, why not make new ones instead??? it's easier for the country if i may say so...
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: subicboy October 24, 2016, 12:21:51 PM
blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong, mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino so hintay na lang kayo ng presidential election ulit   ::laffman

Kung gusto nyo ulit gamitin ang EDSA, pwede naman. Kung ako sa inyo magrally na kayo ngayon na, kawawa ang bansa sa kamay ni Digong e di ba? Wag kayo mag-alala kakampi nyo ang US, UN, EU at Liberal Party. Si Digong lang yan yakang yaka nyo yang matandang yan! ::laffman
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: meteor freak October 24, 2016, 03:38:00 PM
Yung name calling gawain lang yan ng mga bitter na wala na magawa sa mga pangyayari kaya nang iinsulto nalang, pero kahit ano pa itawag nyo sa kanya kahit tawagin nyo pa siyang demonyo hindi nyo mababago mga desisyon nya mas lalo lang kayo hindi mabibigyan ng pansin sa klase ng kritisismo nyo, mauubos lang buhok pati bulbol nyo sa galit. Pero kung dyan gumagaan ang loob nyo so be it para mabawasan naman ang sama ng loob nyo. Good luck sa pag invite ng maraming tao para sumama sa rally nyo. Patalsikin nyo na si Digong para matuwa na ang mga drug lords at tingnan natin kung magkakaroon ng malaking pagbabago ang Pilipinas.
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: tigerwing October 24, 2016, 05:48:40 PM
Yung name calling gawain lang yan ng mga bitter na wala na magawa sa mga pangyayari kaya nang iinsulto nalang, pero kahit ano pa itawag nyo sa kanya kahit tawagin nyo pa siyang demonyo hindi nyo mababago mga desisyon nya mas lalo lang kayo hindi mabibigyan ng pansin sa klase ng kritisismo nyo, mauubos lang buhok pati bulbol nyo sa galit. Pero kung dyan gumagaan ang loob nyo so be it para mabawasan naman ang sama ng loob nyo. Good luck sa pag invite ng maraming tao para sumama sa rally nyo. Patalsikin nyo na si Digong para matuwa na ang mga drug lords at tingnan natin kung magkakaroon ng malaking pagbabago ang Pilipinas.

Tell that to this guy..


ito na naman tayo pag walang gagawin ang Presidente sa pag solve ng crimes, corruptions at economy daming reklamo ngayon inaayos na reklamo parin.... dami  niyo palang tanga dito wahahhahahahaha :D

Alam niyo ang problema ng Pinas ay kayo mismo.... support the president all the way. Let him do the job lets enjoy the fruits of his hardwork. Talangka kasi mga muka niyo dito...... Crabs kung di niyo pa nakuha..... nawala na nga si abnoy may natira pa pala dito wahhahahahahha :D

So pag pro-duterte ka pala pwede ka mag critizize, mag sabi na tanga ang ibang tao at tawaging abnoy ang isang dating presidente.

Pero pag anti-duterte ka eh wala ka karapatan mag salita ng kahit anong against digong? All support lang dapat?

Ayaw mo ng name calling pero nag sasalita ka lang naman against it pag si duterte ang tinitira. Otherwise wapakels. 
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: bigbanggoo October 25, 2016, 09:49:23 AM
blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong, mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino

Are you in denial or just delusional? The election showed that only 38% of the voters supported him. He won for having the most votes of all the candidates but not by being preferred by the majority. At ngayon sa lahat nang polls about his recent policies halos lahat e talo sya. Even some of those who supported him are now regretting. Mas madami yung bumoto sa kanya na nagsisisi ngayon kesa dun sa mga di bumoto sa kanya na sumusuporta ngayon.
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: subicboy October 25, 2016, 11:52:55 PM
Tsong one on one ba an labanan nung eleksyon para mangarap ka ng 50%+ na suporta sa isang kandidato? Ung halos na pitong milyon na lamang nya sa sumunod sa kanya n so roxas, d mo ba napansin?

San naman sya natalo na polls? Link please

Marami an bumoto sa kanya na nagsisisi - pakibilang silang lahat tapos minus natin sa alam ko na bilang ng bumoto kay poe binay miriam at roxas na gusto ang pamamalakad nya ngaun na presidente na sya.

Delusional ako!  ::laffman
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: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 12:52:30 AM
Tsong one on one ba an labanan nung eleksyon para mangarap ka ng 50%+ na suporta sa isang kandidato? Ung halos na pitong milyon na lamang nya sa sumunod sa kanya n so roxas, d mo ba napansin?

San naman sya natalo na polls? Link please

Marami an bumoto sa kanya na nagsisisi - pakibilang silang lahat tapos minus natin sa alam ko na bilang ng bumoto kay poe binay miriam at roxas na gusto ang pamamalakad nya ngaun na presidente na sya.

Delusional ako!  ::laffman

Well it was you who claimed na supportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming filipino. When in fact the majority actually did not vote for him during the elections. Yes, he won the polls by having the most number of votes among the candidates, but not by having the vote of the majority..

Sure, Duterte have very high trust ratings rightnow. But so does PNoy in 2010 which eventualy declined. Note that Duterte's trust ratings declined as well. After a year or two who knows what his ratings will be..

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: subicboy October 26, 2016, 01:49:37 AM
Ulit, di naman kasi isa sa isa ang labanan, at hindi naman mahihina sa tao ang mga nakalaban nya, may mga balwarte at loyal followers ang mga yan. Natural mahahati ang boto, pero ang eleksyon natin pumapabor sa MAS makakakuha ng mas maraming boto, kahit isa pa ang lamang nyan, panalo yan.

Sige panalangin mo na lumubog ng lumubog an trust rating ni Digong. Tapos manalangin ka na din na gamitin ulit ng tao ang Edsa para magpatalsik ulit ng presidente. Good luck nawa matupad ang iyong mga hangarin.  ::laffman
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: alamat October 26, 2016, 04:42:05 AM
Daming nagmamagaling dito, Bakit hinde na lang gumawa ng mga bagay na makakatulong sa ikauunlad ng bayan o kahit sarili nyo na lang, kaya hinde umasenso Pilipinas eh.

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: etong October 26, 2016, 05:32:21 AM
Daming nagmamagaling dito, Bakit hinde na lang gumawa ng mga bagay na makakatulong sa ikauunlad ng bayan o kahit sarili nyo na lang, kaya hinde umasenso Pilipinas eh.

^This.

Pero kahit papano naiintindihan ko rin bakit marami nagvevent ng issues. Yung iba may paniniwala na may mas magandang paraan sila nakikita to resolve issues, yung iba naman gusto majustify ang desisyon nila na hindi pagboto noon, yung iba want to stick with the status quo, etc.

Hindi man tayo agree sa rason nila. Karapatan nila yun and valid din naman. Gusto ko pagbigyan ang administrasyon ngayon dahil naniniwala ako na its better to risk and do something rather than play safe and barely do anything like in the past.

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: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 06:42:20 AM
Ulit, di naman kasi isa sa isa ang labanan, at hindi naman mahihina sa tao ang mga nakalaban nya, may mga balwarte at loyal followers ang mga yan. Natural mahahati ang boto, pero ang eleksyon natin pumapabor sa MAS makakakuha ng mas maraming boto, kahit isa pa ang lamang nyan, panalo yan.

Sige panalangin mo na lumubog ng lumubog an trust rating ni Digong. Tapos manalangin ka na din na gamitin ulit ng tao ang Edsa para magpatalsik ulit ng presidente. Good luck nawa matupad ang iyong mga hangarin.  ::laffman

Eh alam mo nmn pala ang sistema ng election dito eh.. ::laffman

Ngayon sinasabi mo na MAS MADAMI ANG NAKUHANG BOTO ni Duterte kesa ibang kandidato pero before ang sinasabi mo ay MAS NAKARARAMI ANG SUPPORTERS ni Digong. Again, he may have the most votes among the candidates but HE NEVER HAD THE MAJORITY, not even close. Bakit hindi mo nalang tanggapin na nagkamali ka sa statement mo?

Regarding trust ratings. Ang sinasabi ko lang naman eh nung una mataas din ang ratings ni Pnoy, pinaka marami din ang boto na nakuha ni Pnoy and alot of people thought that he will be the best ever and will make the country great. Pero anyare??

Now its Digong's turn. What guarantee do we have that he will make this country great? Nakapag time travel ka na ba sa future para masabi mo with 100% certainty that Digong will in fact suceed and make this country great? Kasi kung magsalita kayong mga supporters nya eh parang siguradong sigurado kayo. To the point na gusto nyo tumahimik nalang kami, disregard all of our concerns and just give our full support to him.

Sorry but not everyone share your views. We have our concerns and last time I checked, we are still a democratic country where voicing out our concerns and our point of views are allowed. We are not like China where if you speak out against the gov't you get arrested. Well.. atleast not yet...
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: subicboy October 26, 2016, 07:33:15 AM
Eh alam mo nmn pala ang sistema ng election dito eh.. ::laffman

Ngayon sinasabi mo na MAS MADAMI ANG NAKUHANG BOTO ni Duterte kesa ibang kandidato pero before ang sinasabi mo ay MAS NAKARARAMI ANG SUPPORTERS ni Digong. Again, he may have the most votes among the candidates but HE NEVER HAD THE MAJORITY, not even close. Bakit hindi mo nalang tanggapin na nagkamali ka sa statement mo?

Regarding trust ratings. Ang sinasabi ko lang naman eh nung una mataas din ang ratings ni Pnoy, pinaka marami din ang boto na nakuha ni Pnoy and alot of people thought that he will be the best ever and will make the country great. Pero anyare??

Now its Digong's turn. What guarantee do we have that he will make this country great? Nakapag time travel ka na ba sa future para masabi mo with 100% certainty that Digong will in fact suceed and make this country great? Kasi kung magsalita kayong mga supporters nya eh parang siguradong sigurado kayo. To the point na gusto nyo tumahimik nalang kami, disregard all of our concerns and just give our full support to him.

Sorry but not everyone share your views. We have our concerns and last time I checked, we are still a democratic country where voicing out our concerns and our point of views are allowed. We are not like China where if you speak out against the gov't you get arrested. Well.. atleast not yet...

Eh alam mo nmn pala ang sistema ng election dito eh.. ::laffman

Ngayon sinasabi mo na MAS MADAMI ANG NAKUHANG BOTO ni Duterte kesa ibang kandidato..
-16.7M ang nakuhang boto ni Duterte, Roxas 9M, Poe 8M, Binay 4M-3M, Miriam 2M-1M. MAS MADAMI ANG NAKUHANG BOTO ni Duterte kesa sa ibang kandidato   ::laffman

Again, he may have the most votes among the candidates but HE NEVER HAD THE MAJORITY, not even close. Bakit hindi mo nalang tanggapin na nagkamali ka sa statement mo?
-Sinalag ko ba ang sinabi mo na hindi nakakuha ng majority si Digong? Pinaliwanag ko lng na malabo talaga makakuha ng majority votes lalo kung sangkatutak kayo gusto maging presidente. Di ba nga sinabi ko na umaasa ka ba na makakakuha ng 50%+ (MAJORITY) e lima silang naglaban laban   ::laffman

Bakit hindi mo nalang tanggapin na nagkamali ka sa statement mo?
-San ang mali sa statement ko?  ::laffman

Regarding trust ratings. Ang sinasabi ko lang naman eh nung una mataas din ang ratings ni Pnoy, pinaka marami din ang boto na nakuha ni Pnoy and alot of people thought that he will be the best ever and will make the country great. Pero anyare??
-Kaya nga asahan mo at maging positibo ka na bubulusok din pababa ang trust rating ni Digong. An sarap maging positibo sa mga bagay bagay no?   ::laffman

Now its Digong's turn. What guarantee do we have that he will make this country great? Nakapag time travel ka na ba sa future para masabi mo with 100% certainty that Digong will in fact suceed and make this country great? Kasi kung magsalita kayong mga supporters nya eh parang siguradong sigurado kayo. To the point na gusto nyo tumahimik nalang kami, disregard all of our concerns and just give our full support to him.
-Tingin ko naman kahit bobo ang tingin mo sa mga sumusuporta kay Digong, naniniwala ako na may hinala ka na hindi kami naniniwala na walang sigurado sa mundo at walang permanente. WALANG SIGURADO SA MUNDO. Kaya ang magagawa na lang natin ay sumuporta, ang tagumpay ni Digong, tagumpay ng bansa. Hilahin natin sya pababa, hinihila natin pababa ang bansa.

Sorry but not everyone share your views. We have our concerns and last time I checked, we are still a democratic country where voicing out our concerns and our point of views are allowed. We are not like China where if you speak out against the gov't you get arrested. Well.. atleast not yet...
-Nirerespeto ko yan dahil lahat ng tao iba iba. Malaya tayong lahat ihayag ang gusto natin ihayag. Sa mga sinasabi ni Digong at ginagawa, walang indikasyon na matutulad tayo sa China o North Korea. Sya pa nga ang ngsusulong ng Federalism kahit pa ang kapalit nun ang maaga nyang pag-alis sa pwesto.   toast::
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: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 08:04:43 AM
@subicboy

Again, your statement:

"suportado sya ng MAS NAKARARAMING Pilipino"

Thats what you originaly said. Not "pinaka marami ang boto ni Digong". From here I thought you were saying that Duterte has the MAJORITY..

You were saying that you respect our views and we have freedom to express it, yet in your statement you're pretty much telling us to all shut-up.

"blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong, mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino"
 
Thats what you said. Did we missunderstood? Were you taken out of context? ::laffman ::laffman

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: yonipspy October 26, 2016, 08:08:35 AM
bakit satin mga pinoy mas madali mapansin ang Negative  kisa Positive ???

dapat fair lang tau
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: subicboy October 26, 2016, 10:26:11 AM
Again, your statement:

"suportado sya ng MAS NAKARARAMING Pilipino"
-Nabalitaan mo na ba ang mga lumabas na survey? Ahh baka nga naman di ka naniniwala sa survey. Ok, wag ka maniwala.  ::laffman

You were saying that you respect our views and we have freedom to express it, yet in your statement you're pretty much telling us to all shut-up.

"blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong, mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino"
 
Thats what you said. Did we missunderstood? Were you taken out of context? ::laffman ::laffman

-Ok hahati hatiin ko ang mga sinabi ko dyan sa taas.

"blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong" - sinasabi ko na may limang taon pa si Digong magiging presidente natin

"mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino"
- pagpapaalala na wala kayong magagawa kahit ano pa ang sabihin nyo sa kanya dahil sya na ang presidente at suportado sya ng mas nakakaraming Pilipino. Kaya nga di ba ngbigay pa ko ng suggestion na magrally kayo sa Edsa kung gusto nyo dahil malaya kayo ipahayag ang gusto nyong sabihin. Ang tanong lang ay ito: ANG BILANG NYO BA AY SAPAT PARA MAPATALSIK ULIT ANG PRESIDENTE? Sasagutin ko yan, HINDI, dahil mas madami pa rin kami na sumusuporta kay Digong.  ::laffman

Yan ang masakit na katotohanan, mas madami kami sa inyo na ayaw kay Digong. Pro syempre nirerespeto namin ang gusto nyo, irespeto nyo din ang sa min, natural lang di ba kasi MAS madami kami e.  ::laffman
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: etong October 26, 2016, 10:36:11 AM
bakit satin mga pinoy mas madali mapansin ang Negative  kisa Positive ???

dapat fair lang tau
Agree. Parang feeling ko ganito nalang lagi - If something good happens it will be... "so? its his job to do that". If something go bad or just things that they dont like happens... "retard of a president". The guy can't win their approval or acknowledgement, but he can easily earn their ire and hate.






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: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 11:18:35 AM
Again, your statement:

"suportado sya ng MAS NAKARARAMING Pilipino"
-Nabalitaan mo na ba ang mga lumabas na survey? Ahh baka nga naman di ka naniniwala sa survey. Ok, wag ka maniwala.  ::laffman

You were saying that you respect our views and we have freedom to express it, yet in your statement you're pretty much telling us to all shut-up.

"blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong, mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino"
 
Thats what you said. Did we missunderstood? Were you taken out of context? ::laffman ::laffman

-Ok hahati hatiin ko ang mga sinabi ko dyan sa taas.

"blah blah blah may limang taon pa si Digong" - sinasabi ko na may limang taon pa si Digong magiging presidente natin

"mapapagod lang kayo kangangawa dahil walang mangyayari sa mga pinagsasabi nyo sa knya, suportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming Pilipino"
- pagpapaalala na wala kayong magagawa kahit ano pa ang sabihin nyo sa kanya dahil sya na ang presidente at suportado sya ng mas nakakaraming Pilipino. Kaya nga di ba ngbigay pa ko ng suggestion na magrally kayo sa Edsa kung gusto nyo dahil malaya kayo ipahayag ang gusto nyong sabihin. Ang tanong lang ay ito: ANG BILANG NYO BA AY SAPAT PARA MAPATALSIK ULIT ANG PRESIDENTE? Sasagutin ko yan, HINDI, dahil mas madami pa rin kami na sumusuporta kay Digong.  ::laffman

Yan ang masakit na katotohanan, mas madami kami sa inyo na ayaw kay Digong. Pro syempre nirerespeto namin ang gusto nyo, irespeto nyo din ang sa min, natural lang di ba kasi MAS madami kami e.  ::laffman

Ah. So dahil mas madami kayo kuno eh shut-up nalang kami? ::laffman ::laffman

Wala din nmn kasi mangyayari sa mga hinaing namin so better we shut-up nalang and instead blindly support the supreme lord duterte..

Did I get you right this time?
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: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 11:28:29 AM
Agree. Parang feeling ko ganito nalang lagi - If something good happens it will be... "so? its his job to do that". If something go bad or just things that they dont like happens... "retard of a president". The guy can't win their approval or acknowledgement, but he can easily earn their ire and hate.

Well, that really is how the world goes and not entirely exclusive to Duterte and his critics. Thats human nature.

The expression of distaste and dissatisfaction will always be stronger than the expression of praise. Tingan nyo yung reactions ng asawa nyo oh kaya ng parents nyo pag may nagawa kayong tama at pag may nagawa kayong mali. Anong mas intense most of the time?

How about at work? Are you given praised each and everytime you do your job? do you get a bonus or a promotion for every job well done? Now try screwing up even just once. Lets see how your boss will react.



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: naruto789544 October 26, 2016, 11:42:58 AM
this is going nowhere... as i said, this is another pro and anti du30 thread... each one has some valid points in their comments... my opinion in this.... nobody will win in this discussion...
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: etong October 26, 2016, 11:59:16 AM
Well, that really is how the world goes and not entirely exclusive to Duterte and his critics. Thats human nature.

The expression of distaste and dissatisfaction will always be stronger than the expression of praise. Tingan nyo yung reactions ng asawa nyo oh kaya ng parents nyo pag may nagawa kayong tama at pag may nagawa kayong mali. Anong mas intense most of the time?
I respectfully disagree. Not all are geared towards dissatisfaction. Of course there are times na meron pero not all the time. Its a rare occassion for me.

Base sa tanong mo, naiintidihan ko na pov nyo. For me kasi, mas intense yung positive. Halimbawa, for an achievement nung napromote ako. Imbes na ako manlibre ako pa pinaghandaan. And in cases naman na may bagsak sa exams noon. Oo galit sila pero not to the point na minura ako or tinawag akong bobo or sinaktan. Not like what most people are doing now with each other. Sa gf naman, pag nilalambing at may sweet gestures naman. Hug and kiss. Pag may tampuhan? Oo war with words pero walang sabihan ng mga kabastusan. Never kami nagmurahan or nilait ang pagktao ng isat isa.

Being dissatisfied is one thing, pero pag may dagdag ng panglalait, pangmamaliit, Hate na ang tawag dun. You intend to hurt and belittle.
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: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 06:32:13 PM
I respectfully disagree. Not all are geared towards dissatisfaction. Of course there are times na meron pero not all the time. Its a rare occassion for me.

Base sa tanong mo, naiintidihan ko na pov nyo. For me kasi, mas intense yung positive. Halimbawa, for an achievement nung napromote ako. Imbes na ako manlibre ako pa pinaghandaan. And in cases naman na may bagsak sa exams noon. Oo galit sila pero not to the point na minura ako or tinawag akong bobo or sinaktan. Not like what most people are doing now with each other. Sa gf naman, pag nilalambing at may sweet gestures naman. Hug and kiss. Pag may tampuhan? Oo war with words pero walang sabihan ng mga kabastusan. Never kami nagmurahan or nilait ang pagktao ng isat isa.

Being dissatisfied is one thing, pero pag may dagdag ng panglalait, pangmamaliit, Hate na ang tawag dun. You intend to hurt and belittle.

I personaly have no problem with the use of harsh words or name calling. Hell, President Duterte himself does that. He called Obama "son of a whore" and a US ambasador "gay" remember?

What I cant stand is the amount off double standards  shown by these people. Its as if they have the exclusive right to critizize and say what they want to anyone they want.

They complain about use of foul words. Yet they were silent when it was the President himself who was doing the exact same thing. They dont want name calling but freely use the word "abnoy" to describe the last president. They will say whatever they want against anyone but demands only good words and praises for Duterte and his Government. They freely express their voices but want everyone who doesnt agree with them to just shut-up.

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: subicboy October 26, 2016, 06:53:56 PM
Ah. So dahil mas madami kayo kuno eh shut-up nalang kami? ::laffman ::laffman

Wala din nmn kasi mangyayari sa mga hinaing namin so better we shut-up nalang and instead blindly support the supreme lord duterte..

Did I get you right this time?

Mali na naman  ::laffman

Pinapapasigaw nga namin kayo sa kalye o kahit dito, walang sumisikil sa kalayaan nyo mag-ingay kung may di kayo ayaw.

Pero ang problema nga kahit magngangawa kayo ng magngangawa balewala kasi mas maingay (dahil sa dami) ang mga sumusuporta kay Duterte. Natatabunan ang inyong ingay, di mo pa ba napapansin? Kung tingin mo napakarami nyo, palagay mo ba di ko o ng mga supporters ni Duterte o ni Duterte mismo maririnig ang inyong ingay?

So...

"Wala din nmn kasi mangyayari sa mga hinaing namin" - TAMA, WALANG MANGYAYARI KAHIT MAGNGANGAWA PA KAYO
"so better we shut-up nalang" - MALI, DAHIL MAY KALAYAAN KYO IBULALAS ANG MGA NAIS NYO PARA SA BAYAN
"and instead blindly support the supreme lord duterte." - MALI, DAHIL PWEDE KAYO DI SUMUPORTA, WALANG PUMIPIGIL SA INYO AT WALANG PUMIPILIT SUMUPORTA SA PRESIDENTE.

Gets na?  ::laffman

: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: etong October 26, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
I personaly have no problem with the use of harsh words or name calling. Hell, President Duterte himself does that. He called Obama "son of a whore" and a US ambasador "gay" remember?

What I cant stand is the amount off double standards  shown by these people. Its as if they have the exclusive right to critizize and say what they want to anyone they want.

They complain about use of foul words. Yet they were silent when it was the President himself who was doing the exact same thing. They dont want name calling but freely use the word "abnoy" to describe the last president. They will say whatever they want against anyone but demands only good words and praises for Duterte and his Government. They freely express their voices but want everyone who doesnt agree with them to just shut-up.

To be fair, thats what both sides are doing. Each side is wearing the imaginary white hat.

Im not blaming the anti, but i think they started this whole word war thing in the first place. Even before duterte was elected, they were the ones who made this dutertard term and it all falls down from there. I dont think the pro will retaliate this bad if people didnt judge and labeled them as such.

My original point  though is you have a choice to choose what to focus on, you can either look at the positive or the negative. The pro looks more on the positive and the anti leans at the negative.

Your question earlier answered for me why anti looks at the negative more. I thank you for that. I understand it more now and respect it. Difference in personal experience is a factor. Maybe i just got used to a more positive way of thinking because of my experiences and it works for me. That doesnt mean it will work for everyone.

: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: etong October 26, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
That said ive said my piece. You are free to agree or disagree. That would be my last post in this matter.

: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 26, 2016, 07:59:12 PM
Mali na naman  ::laffman

Pinapapasigaw nga namin kayo sa kalye o kahit dito, walang sumisikil sa kalayaan nyo mag-ingay kung may di kayo ayaw.

Pero ang problema nga kahit magngangawa kayo ng magngangawa balewala kasi mas maingay (dahil sa dami) ang mga sumusuporta kay Duterte. Natatabunan ang inyong ingay, di mo pa ba napapansin? Kung tingin mo napakarami nyo, palagay mo ba di ko o ng mga supporters ni Duterte o ni Duterte mismo maririnig ang inyong ingay?

So...

"Wala din nmn kasi mangyayari sa mga hinaing namin" - TAMA, WALANG MANGYAYARI KAHIT MAGNGANGAWA PA KAYO
"so better we shut-up nalang" - MALI, DAHIL MAY KALAYAAN KYO IBULALAS ANG MGA NAIS NYO PARA SA BAYAN
"and instead blindly support the supreme lord duterte." - MALI, DAHIL PWEDE KAYO DI SUMUPORTA, WALANG PUMIPIGIL SA INYO AT WALANG PUMIPILIT SUMUPORTA SA PRESIDENTE.

Gets na?  ::laffman

According to you we have the right to say whatever we want. We will do so. We dont care if we are the minority as you believed and there is nothing you can do about that as well.

So ano pala ang pinag lalaban natin? Sorry but im really not getting you. Anong point ng whole argument mo? Ang gusto mo lang bang sabihin eh mas madami kayo? Thats all? Lol.  ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: jameer October 27, 2016, 02:28:30 AM
Independent tayo - pero nandyan ang China at Russia
Dutete spokeperson - wag daw i take literally sinasabi ng pangulo...hayop sa galing

Dutete and Detutards unite
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: alamat October 27, 2016, 02:59:46 AM
Independent tayo - pero nandyan ang China at Russia
Dutete spokeperson - wag daw i take literally sinasabi ng pangulo...hayop sa galing

Dutete and Detutards unite

Isa pa to. what independent means is that hinde dapat tayo pakialamanan ng ibang bansa kung paano patakbuhin ang Pilipinas.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: abdul jahkool October 27, 2016, 03:20:18 AM
Independent daw kasi ay parang pagaasawa. Bubukod sa magulang at makikitira sa biyanan.

Hindi nila naisip na ang pagsasarili ay paghahanap ng sariling trabaho, pagupa o pagbili ng sariling tahanan at pagtataguyod ng pamilya sa sariling diskarte at kakayahan hanggang ang kanilang mga anak ay kaya na ding dalhin ang kanilang sarili.

Hindi uso sa pilipinas ang pagiging independent, kasi kahit nakapagasawa na sa magulang pa din umaasa. nagpapalaki ng bayag, tapos pag gising e magtatanong ng kung ano ang ulam. Madalas suklam na suklam sa biyanan kasi yung biyanan pakialamera. ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: jameer October 27, 2016, 07:19:26 AM
So pagiging independent ung ipaubaya ang west Philippine sea sa China? Independent pala un :applause :applause

Galit lang poon nyo kasi dineny visa nya at pinatay ung mga moro noong 19XX.  ::laffman

Sa US umaasa? Lol kaya nga diba pag di kinaya nandyan ang China at Russia (So endi pag asa un?) talino nyo parang poon nyo.

: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 27, 2016, 10:59:43 AM
According to you we have the right to say whatever we want. We will do so. We dont care if we are the minority as you believed and there is nothing you can do about that as well.

So ano pala ang pinag lalaban natin? Sorry but im really not getting you. Anong point ng whole argument mo? Ang gusto mo lang bang sabihin eh mas madami kayo? Thats all? Lol.  ::laffman ::laffman

Malinaw ang pinaglalaban ko, ewan ko syo.  ::laffman

Isa yan sa mga gusto ko ipamukha sa inyo na uunti lang kayo at hindi kayo masusunod sa bansa na to dahil kokonti lang kayo.

Ngayon babalik ako sa sinabi ko nung una na limang taon pa magiging presidente si Duterte, kahit magngangawa kayo ng magngangawa, walang mangyayari.  ::laffman

Ayan malinaw na? Tanggapin mo ang katotohanan, masakit sa una pero kaya nyo yan.  ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 27, 2016, 11:36:06 AM
Well, that really is how the world goes and not entirely exclusive to Duterte and his critics. Thats human nature.

The expression of distaste and dissatisfaction will always be stronger than the expression of praise. Tingan nyo yung reactions ng asawa nyo oh kaya ng parents nyo pag may nagawa kayong tama at pag may nagawa kayong mali. Anong mas intense most of the time?

How about at work? Are you given praised each and everytime you do your job? do you get a bonus or a promotion for every job well done? Now try screwing up even just once. Lets see how your boss will react.

Nakakalungkot to malaman tigerwing...Maswerte pala talaga ako sa magulang, asawa at work.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: A7x October 27, 2016, 12:37:07 PM
Well it was you who claimed na supportado sya ng MAS nakakaraming filipino. When in fact the majority actually did not vote for him during the elections. Yes, he won the polls by having the most number of votes among the candidates, but not by having the vote of the majority..

Tell it to all the people who attended the rallies ni digong nung kampanya days pa nya including ang milyon-milyong OFW's na supportado sya. it was evident kung gaano sya ka supportado ng taong bayan. and take note walang hakutan yun ha walang 500 nor free lunch di katulad ni binay, roxas at grace poe.. hay naku bakit pa kasi nag iimbento ng numbers eh nanalo nanga ang walang makinarya which is first in the history of Philippine elections. 
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 27, 2016, 06:59:33 PM
@subicboy and a7x

Again, uulitin ko. Based on the result of the election. The MAJORITY did note vote for Digong. Ano bang mahirap intindihin dun? Kung totoo ang sinasabi nyo na MAJORITY ang supporters nya, then MAJORITY (MORE THAN 50%) dapat ang boto nya. Which is not the case. And before you guys say na imposible yan mangyari to justify your opinion. Isipin nyo munang mabuti. Statisticaly pwede naman yan mangyari kung talagang gusto sya ng mas nakakaraming taong bayan. Ang tanong bat hindi nangyari? Goes to show that more people did'nt consider him as their president. Such is the nature of our electoral system. One does not need the support of the majority to win. Only to have more votes compared to others is required.

Also, so what kung mas madami kuno kayo? Ano ngayon? Eh sa gusto namin i voice out lahat yung mga opinion namin eh. Again we dont give a flying fuck kung gaano kami karami or kaunti. If we see something we dont like we will voice them out. That my friends is part of how freedom and democracy works. Everyone is entitled to voice out his/her concerns. This is why I dont understand your "mas madami kami" argument. Again, so what?

And when it come to overthrowing Presidents. Let me just remind you that MAJORITY of the filipinos never went to EDSA.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 27, 2016, 10:52:27 PM
@subicboy and a7x

Again, uulitin ko. Based on the result of the election. The MAJORITY did note vote for Digong. Ano bang mahirap intindihin dun? Kung totoo ang sinasabi nyo na MAJORITY ang supporters nya, then MAJORITY (MORE THAN 50%) dapat ang boto nya. Which is not the case. And before you guys say na imposible yan mangyari to justify your opinion. Isipin nyo munang mabuti. Statisticaly pwede naman yan mangyari kung talagang gusto sya ng mas nakakaraming taong bayan. Ang tanong bat hindi nangyari? Goes to show that more people did'nt consider him as their president. Such is the nature of our electoral system. One does not need the support of the majority to win. Only to have more votes compared to others is required.

Also, so what kung mas madami kuno kayo? Ano ngayon? Eh sa gusto namin i voice out lahat yung mga opinion namin eh. Again we dont give a flying fuck kung gaano kami karami or kaunti. If we see something we dont like we will voice them out. That my friends is part of how freedom and democracy works. Everyone is entitled to voice out his/her concerns. This is why I dont understand your "mas madami kami" argument. Again, so what?

And when it come to overthrowing Presidents. Let me just remind you that MAJORITY of the filipinos never went to EDSA.

Wala nga pumipigil sa inyo. E di magingay kayo ng magingay at ngumawa kayo ng ngumawa. WALANG PUMIPIGIL SA INYO. Ang sinasabi ko lang walang mangyayari sa mga pinaggagawa nyo dahil sya na ang presidente. Mahirap ba intindihin yan?

Binabatay mo an sinasabi mong majority sa bumoto sa kanya, pano naman ang bilang ng tao na sumusuporta ngaun na presidente na sya? NGAYON NA PRESIDENTE NA SYA HINDI NUNG ELEKSYON, TAPOS NA UN AT SI DUTERTE ANG NANALO.   ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 27, 2016, 11:32:32 PM
Wala nga pumipigil sa inyo. E di magingay kayo ng magingay at ngumawa kayo ng ngumawa. WALANG PUMIPIGIL SA INYO. Ang sinasabi ko lang walang mangyayari sa mga pinaggagawa nyo dahil sya na ang presidente. Mahirap ba intindihin yan?

Binabatay mo an sinasabi mong majority sa bumoto sa kanya, pano naman ang bilang ng tao na sumusuporta ngaun na presidente na sya? NGAYON NA PRESIDENTE NA SYA HINDI NUNG ELEKSYON, TAPOS NA UN AT SI DUTERTE ANG NANALO.   ::laffman

So ano nga ang point mo na sabihin or ipamuka na mas madami kayo? What do you hope to gain there? So what kung mas madami kayo?

Wala mangyayari? Are you sure about that? Hindi ba sinusubukan na ng Presidente na bawas bawasan ang pag mumura nya? If no one called him out on that palagay mo gagawin nya yun? Kung walang mag sasalita pano nya malalaman na hindi lahat ng tao eh natutuwa ka kanya?

Again, we dont give a damn about your numbers. Your "mas madami kami" argument is therefore irrelevant. You dont need the majority to instil a point.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 27, 2016, 11:47:08 PM
Palagay mo naman kayo ang pinakinggan nya pra bawasan ang pagmumura nya? Di ba pwede na sya ang nagbabago dahil gusto nya? Hindi nyo sya mapipilit at hindi nyo sya mababraso.

Ang point ko sa pagsasabi na MAS madami kami ay kung may masusunod, KAMI un hindi kayo. ::laffman

Ito ang katotohanan tigerwing, makiramdam ka. Pwede ka sumigaw ng sumigaw hangang mapatiran ka ng litid pero walang mangyayari. Ang boses pa rin ng nakakarami ang maririnig.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 27, 2016, 11:56:17 PM
Palagay mo naman kayo ang pinakinggan nya pra bawasan ang pagmumura nya? Di ba pwede na sya ang nagbabago dahil gusto nya? Hindi nyo sya mapipilit at hindi nyo sya mababraso.

Ang point ko sa pagsasabi na MAS madami kami ay kung may masusunod, KAMI un hindi kayo. ::laffman

Ito ang katotohanan tigerwing, makiramdam ka. Pwede ka sumigaw ng sumigaw hangang mapatiran ka ng litid pero walang mangyayari. Ang boses pa rin ng nakakarami ang maririnig.

None the less i will continue shouting. So what now?

Masyado ka naman ata feeling entitled pre? Kayo lang ang pakikingan? Kayo lang masusunod? Kayo lang ang tama? Lol. Kaya kayo nasasabihan ng -tard eh..
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: abdul jahkool October 28, 2016, 12:07:29 AM
So pagiging independent ung ipaubaya ang west Philippine sea sa China? Independent pala un :applause :applause

Galit lang poon nyo kasi dineny visa nya at pinatay ung mga moro noong 19XX.  ::laffman

Sa US umaasa? Lol kaya nga diba pag di kinaya nandyan ang China at Russia (So endi pag asa un?) talino nyo parang poon nyo.

Tama, pinaubaya ang west Philippine sea sa China at hinayaang magutom ang mangingisda ng mahigit tatlong taon. Teka, si B.S. Aquino yun e. Ngayon kasi ganito ang kwento. "Mga Pinoy na mangingisda, nakabalik na sa Scarborough Shoal"

http://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/10/27/16/mga-pinoy-na-mangingisda-nakabalik-na-sa-scarborough-shoal
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 28, 2016, 12:14:35 AM
E di sumigaw ka ng sumigaw. Good luck!  ::laffman

Kelan ka ba pinanganak pre? Di mo pa rin ba naiintindihan na majority ang laging nasusunod sa bansa na to. Mula sa eleksyon hangang sa pagdedesisyon ng supreme court , paramihan ng bilang.

At saka wag mo msyado tingnan kawawa ang sarili mo. Hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon tama ang nakakarami. Pero nakakarami lagi ang nasusunod at napapakinggan.  ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 28, 2016, 12:35:22 AM
E di sumigaw ka ng sumigaw. Good luck!  ::laffman

Kelan ka ba pinanganak pre? Di mo pa rin ba naiintindihan na majority ang laging nasusunod sa bansa na to. Mula sa eleksyon hangang sa pagdedesisyon ng supreme court , paramihan ng bilang.

At saka wag mo msyado tingnan kawawa ang sarili mo. Hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon tama ang nakakarami. Pero nakakarami lagi ang nasusunod at napapakinggan.  ::laffman

Ikaw na mismo ang nagsabi.  ::laffman ::laffman

I rest my case..  ::lmao ::lmao
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 28, 2016, 12:38:48 AM
Ah yan lang ba ang gusto mo marinig? Sana sinabi mo na nung una pa lang. Tama naman di ba, hndi sa lahat ng pagkakataon tama ang nakakarami. ::laffman

Pero sa pagkakataon na to tama ang nakakarami kay Duterte.  ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 28, 2016, 12:54:10 AM
Ah yan lang ba ang gusto mo marinig? Sana sinabi mo na nung una pa lang. Tama naman di ba, hndi sa lahat ng pagkakataon tama ang nakakarami. ::laffman

Pero sa pagkakataon na to tama ang nakakarami kay Duterte.  ::laffman

Lol! Idol mo nga talaga si Duterte. Says one thing, meant another.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 28, 2016, 12:58:47 AM
Dutertard nga di ba sabi nyo.  ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tigerwing October 28, 2016, 01:00:58 AM
Dutertard nga di ba sabi nyo.  ::laffman ::laffman

Agreed..  ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 28, 2016, 01:04:03 AM
Proud ako dyan  ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: rodeo October 28, 2016, 06:52:34 AM
makisingit lang ... sinasabi kasi ng karamihan kung makikiooperate lang  ang taong bayan sa gobyerno uunlad tayo, at wala tayong magagawa kay duterte kasi majority ang bumoto sa kanya. Giving this point hindi ba ibig sabihin ang may problema kung kaya hindi uunlad ang bansa eh yun mismong bumoto kay duterte ay hindi siya tinutulungan/tutulungan?

Let say sa crimen , kung 33%  percent ang bumoto sa kanya  every voter need lang mag matyag ng 2 tao para maging safe ang pilipinas? I don't know if am making a sense  pero may point is kung yung mga makaduterte ay umaaksyon mismo sa ikakaunlad ng bansa definitely uunlad tayo kahit 1 year lang or magiging crime free tayo after 6 months.... no nid na makipag bash or away etc dun sa mga hindi bumoto sa kanya.

You don't need to defend duterte you need to move to support your president....sad to say kasi yun mismong majority na bumot kay duterte ay majority din nakatunganga at nanunuod lang sa president nila...

just a simple question para sa mga bumoto kay duterte since nanalo siya anu ginawa nyo sa comunidad nyo para matulungan ang presidente?
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: etong October 28, 2016, 08:51:01 AM
makisingit lang ... sinasabi kasi ng karamihan kung makikiooperate lang  ang taong bayan sa gobyerno uunlad tayo, at wala tayong magagawa kay duterte kasi majority ang bumoto sa kanya. Giving this point hindi ba ibig sabihin ang may problema kung kaya hindi uunlad ang bansa eh yun mismong bumoto kay duterte ay hindi siya tinutulungan/tutulungan?

Let say sa crimen , kung 33%  percent ang bumoto sa kanya  every voter need lang mag matyag ng 2 tao para maging safe ang pilipinas? I don't know if am making a sense  pero may point is kung yung mga makaduterte ay umaaksyon mismo sa ikakaunlad ng bansa definitely uunlad tayo kahit 1 year lang or magiging crime free tayo after 6 months.... no nid na makipag bash or away etc dun sa mga hindi bumoto sa kanya.

You don't need to defend duterte you need to move to support your president....sad to say kasi yun mismong majority na bumot kay duterte ay majority din nakatunganga at nanunuod lang sa president nila...

just a simple question para sa mga bumoto kay duterte since nanalo siya anu ginawa nyo sa comunidad nyo para matulungan ang presidente?

Isnt defend and support the same thing? Kung an sinasabi mo ay tulungan sya directly. Tell me how without having to abandon my job. May mga sariling buhay rin tayo. I think thats the point of electing a president. Because we cant do it ourselves we go to someone who is willing to do the job. Kung gusto mo tumulong directly tumakbo ka sa pulitika.

Can i return the question? Para sa mga hindi bumoto kay duterte,  ano na ang nagawa niyo sa komunidad para tulungan ang bansa natin bukod sa pambabatikos?  Did your protests actually help or just discourages those who are doing their duty for our country?

Halimbawa nalang. Kung nagtatrabaho ka sa isang kumpanya at ginagawa mo yung kaya mo pero kinekwestyon ka lagi, minumura, tinatawag ng kung ano anong pangalan. Gaganahan ka pa ba magtrabaho? Or baka yun talaga ang intensyon nyo para umalis sya sa pwesto?

 Sabi ko nga suggest a better way kung ayaw nyo yung pamamaraan nya. Wala naman kayong sinasabi e reklamo lang lagi. Laging "basta di tulad ng ginagawa nya", "basta di tama yung may namamatay", "hindi nya tinutupad mga sinasabi nya",  etc.

Atleast kung may solid alternate action kayo na mas maganda edi yun ang isigaw natin kay duterte atleast constructive criticism yun. Tulungan ko pa kayo magpost ng mga aksyon na naisip nyo at ikalat sa social media.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: naruto789544 October 28, 2016, 09:53:05 AM
Isnt defend and support the same thing? Kung an sinasabi mo ay tulungan sya directly. Tell me how without having to abandon my job. May mga sariling buhay rin tayo. I think thats the point of electing a president. Because we cant do it ourselves we go to someone who is willing to do the job. Kung gusto mo tumulong directly tumakbo ka sa pulitika.

Can i return the question? Para sa mga hindi bumoto kay duterte,  ano na ang nagawa niyo sa komunidad para tulungan ang bansa natin bukod sa pambabatikos?  Did your protests actually help or just discourages those who are doing their duty for our country?

Halimbawa nalang. Kung nagtatrabaho ka sa isang kumpanya at ginagawa mo yung kaya mo pero kinekwestyon ka lagi, minumura, tinatawag ng kung ano anong pangalan. Gaganahan ka pa ba magtrabaho? Or baka yun talaga ang intensyon nyo para umalis sya sa pwesto?

 Sabi ko nga suggest a better way kung ayaw nyo yung pamamaraan nya. Wala naman kayong sinasabi e reklamo lang lagi. Laging "basta di tulad ng ginagawa nya", "basta di tama yung may namamatay", "hindi nya tinutupad mga sinasabi nya",  etc.

Atleast kung may solid alternate action kayo na mas maganda edi yun ang isigaw natin kay duterte atleast constructive criticism yun. Tulungan ko pa kayo magpost ng mga aksyon na naisip nyo at ikalat sa social media.

i agree with this... if we're to bash something... then let's be ready with a better recommendation...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: dweizz October 28, 2016, 11:41:10 AM
wahaha hirap ng buhay ng mga anti duterte... 6 years silang maggagaganyan... yung mga pro-duterte tuloy lang ang buhay... enjoy tayong mga dutertards
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: rodeo October 28, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
No offense pero ang idea is idea lang hindi siya magmamaterialize kung walang kikilos.

hindi sinabing kailangan whole week kang umalis sa trabaho para tumulong sa gobyerno at lalong mas mali ang pag iisip na makakatulong ka lang sa komunidadd kung tatakbo kang politiko. may mga NGO or volunteerism group na would only take you 1 hr per week or 1 hour per month. 

Or create or your volunteer group na tutulong sa baranggay.  Ang problema kasi kahit sinong pangulo ang umupo ang laging lang sinasabi susuportahin natin sila pero usually pero salita lang . Iba kasi ang pag sang ayon sa plataporma   at iba ang din ang ibig sabihin ng pagsuporta. Pag sinabi mong suporta at least tangible naman.

Yun isa ko pong post is challenge para sa mga makaduterte na tulungan pa nila ang pangulo nila para mas umunlad ang bansa, naka specific pa dun na sinabi ko na "you dont need to defend duterte , support ang kailangan niya"  support as in yun mga duterte followers tumulong sa komunidad, maging role model, para mas makaenganyo ng tangible support, community volunteerism.

everybody can be a keyboard warrior pero the country needs more from us. wag iasa sa pangulo...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 28, 2016, 02:08:11 PM
No offense pero ang idea is idea lang hindi siya magmamaterialize kung walang kikilos.

hindi sinabing kailangan whole week kang umalis sa trabaho para tumulong sa gobyerno at lalong mas mali ang pag iisip na makakatulong ka lang sa komunidadd kung tatakbo kang politiko. may mga NGO or volunteerism group na would only take you 1 hr per week or 1 hour per month. 

Or create or your volunteer group na tutulong sa baranggay.  Ang problema kasi kahit sinong pangulo ang umupo ang laging lang sinasabi susuportahin natin sila pero usually pero salita lang . Iba kasi ang pag sang ayon sa plataporma   at iba ang din ang ibig sabihin ng pagsuporta. Pag sinabi mong suporta at least tangible naman.

Yun isa ko pong post is challenge para sa mga makaduterte na tulungan pa nila ang pangulo nila para mas umunlad ang bansa, naka specific pa dun na sinabi ko na "you dont need to defend duterte , support ang kailangan niya"  support as in yun mga duterte followers tumulong sa komunidad, maging role model, para mas makaenganyo ng tangible support, community volunteerism.

everybody can be a keyboard warrior pero the country needs more from us. wag iasa sa pangulo...

Pangulo namin? Iba nationality mo? Sinasabihan mo kami na tumulong sa gobyerno pero ikaw di mo man lang matanggap na ang pangulo mo si Duterte.

Ok, ako, nagabbayad ng tamang tax at smusunod sa batas. Hindi tumatangkilik ng mga iligal na gawain katulad ng fixer sa LTO at kotong cops. Walang record sa barangay, police at NBI. Nagdodonate kapag may kalamidad. Nagbibigay ng trabaho sa mga walang trabaho.

Kulang pa ba ang nasa taas? Ok, ikaw naman.  ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 28, 2016, 02:25:25 PM
wahaha hirap ng buhay ng mga anti duterte... 6 years silang maggagaganyan... yung mga pro-duterte tuloy lang ang buhay... enjoy tayong mga dutertards

Tama manong huminga sana sila ng malalim at relaks lang.
Makipaglaro sa mga anak, tapusin ang kailangan tapusin sa work, gumawa ng mabuti sa kapwa.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: etong October 28, 2016, 02:53:27 PM
No offense pero ang idea is idea lang hindi siya magmamaterialize kung walang kikilos.

hindi sinabing kailangan whole week kang umalis sa trabaho para tumulong sa gobyerno at lalong mas mali ang pag iisip na makakatulong ka lang sa komunidadd kung tatakbo kang politiko. may mga NGO or volunteerism group na would only take you 1 hr per week or 1 hour per month. 

Or create or your volunteer group na tutulong sa baranggay.  Ang problema kasi kahit sinong pangulo ang umupo ang laging lang sinasabi susuportahin natin sila pero usually pero salita lang . Iba kasi ang pag sang ayon sa plataporma   at iba ang din ang ibig sabihin ng pagsuporta. Pag sinabi mong suporta at least tangible naman.

Yun isa ko pong post is challenge para sa mga makaduterte na tulungan pa nila ang pangulo nila para mas umunlad ang bansa, naka specific pa dun na sinabi ko na "you dont need to defend duterte , support ang kailangan niya"  support as in yun mga duterte followers tumulong sa komunidad, maging role model, para mas makaenganyo ng tangible support, community volunteerism.

everybody can be a keyboard warrior pero the country needs more from us. wag iasa sa pangulo...

No offense din sir. Isa lang bansa natin bakit ang mga pro lang ang chinachallenge mo? Hindi kayo suportado sa presidente kaya di kayo obligado sa bansa? Special kayo?

Pangulo namin? Iba nationality mo? Sinasabihan mo kami na tumulong sa gobyerno pero ikaw di mo man lang matanggap na ang pangulo mo si Duterte.

Ok, ako, nagabbayad ng tamang tax at smusunod sa batas. Hindi tumatangkilik ng mga iligal na gawain katulad ng fixer sa LTO at kotong cops. Walang record sa barangay, police at NBI. Nagdodonate kapag may kalamidad. Nagbibigay ng trabaho sa mga walang trabaho.

Kulang pa ba ang nasa taas? Ok, ikaw naman.  ::laffman

^sagot sa suportang hinahanap mo. Grabe lang may work ka na nga mag volunteer ka pa dapat.

Haay ang hirap pala ng buhay.




: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: rodeo October 29, 2016, 08:03:45 AM
No offense pero 10 years na akong may volunter work at my work, hindi nakabase sa pangulo  ang pag volunter ko, kahit sino ang maging pangulo i do my volunteer work...

bkit puro makadigong inaask ko na magvolunteer? akala ko kasi masigabo ang pagtulong nila sa pangulo  and hoping na kahit ilan lang dun sa mga bumuto magvolunter then it would be a great Philippines. KUng yun mga rants and frustration will be directed to volunterism, it will ripple to a good result. Kung ang ichallenge mo kasi magvolunter is yun mga hindi bumoto or against kay digong then malaman tawanan ka lang diba? kaya ichallenge  mo muna yun mga taong sumusuporta kay digong at hoping na kapag nagvolunteer sila at makita ito ng antidigong, baka maencourage din nila yun ibang sumusuporta.  currrently kasi ang nangyayari is kapag may rant against kay digong ay gaganti lang ng rant yun pro digong. As a supporter ni digong bakit hindi niyo siya gayahin na action ng action. Nag ask kayo magbigay ng alternative solution sa problema sa pilipinas, i think valid na suggstion namin ito diba?


Rather than name calling "pangulo nila" ang sinabi ko.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 29, 2016, 10:45:59 AM
No offense pero 10 years na akong may volunter work at my work, hindi nakabase sa pangulo  ang pag volunter ko, kahit sino ang maging pangulo i do my volunteer work...

bkit puro makadigong inaask ko na magvolunteer? akala ko kasi masigabo ang pagtulong nila sa pangulo  and hoping na kahit ilan lang dun sa mga bumuto magvolunter then it would be a great Philippines. KUng yun mga rants and frustration will be directed to volunterism, it will ripple to a good result. Kung ang ichallenge mo kasi magvolunter is yun mga hindi bumoto or against kay digong then malaman tawanan ka lang diba? kaya ichallenge  mo muna yun mga taong sumusuporta kay digong at hoping na kapag nagvolunteer sila at makita ito ng antidigong, baka maencourage din nila yun ibang sumusuporta.  currrently kasi ang nangyayari is kapag may rant against kay digong ay gaganti lang ng rant yun pro digong. As a supporter ni digong bakit hindi niyo siya gayahin na action ng action. Nag ask kayo magbigay ng alternative solution sa problema sa pilipinas, i think valid na suggstion namin ito diba?


Rather than name calling "pangulo nila" ang sinabi ko.

Isang paraan ang pagvvolunteer , madaming praan pra makatulong sa bayan. Ang pagsisikap na hindi maging pasaway at sakit ng ulo ng gobyerno isa ng malaking pagtulong.

Isa din malaking pagtulong ang pagsuporta sa gobyerno imbes n mambatikos ng batikos sa kada makikitang butas. Action ng action si Presidente habang kayo ngawa ng ngawa.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: weng151515 October 29, 2016, 11:36:16 AM
If returteds supporter cant see whats wrong with  this lunatic president, then sorry, we the minority as other calls us does see it...you see no govt can become a good govt unless  unless somebody tells them they are wrong...if others has already  been blinded by this lord digong then sorry..we are in a democratic postion to tell something is wrong...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: etong October 29, 2016, 02:53:45 PM
If returteds supporter cant see whats wrong with  this lunatic president, then sorry, we the minority as other calls us does see it...you see no govt can become a good govt unless  unless somebody tells them they are wrong...if others has already  been blinded by this lord digong then sorry..we are in a democratic postion to tell something is wrong...
Bro check the other thread about dutertes achievements then get back to us. Sabihin mo samin kung anong mali dun. Its funny how you completely ignored that thread and you conveniently reply to this thread which clearly is a hate thread. Who is really the blind one here?
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: tiberionx October 29, 2016, 08:57:15 PM
If returteds supporter cant see whats wrong with  this lunatic president, then sorry, we the minority as other calls us does see it...you see no govt can become a good govt unless  unless somebody tells them they are wrong...if others has already  been blinded by this lord digong then sorry..we are in a democratic postion to tell something is wrong...
The President is not perfect and clearly has lots of flaws. but if you refuse to acknowledge all he has done in a span of 4 months.then you're probably the one who needs to get an eyecheck.

The new president made me realize what a real hard-working dedicated politician can do compared to the trash we were used to.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: rodeo October 30, 2016, 07:19:48 AM
Isang paraan ang pagvvolunteer , madaming praan pra makatulong sa bayan. Ang pagsisikap na hindi maging pasaway at sakit ng ulo ng gobyerno isa ng malaking pagtulong.

Isa din malaking pagtulong ang pagsuporta sa gobyerno imbes n mambatikos ng batikos sa kada makikitang butas. Action ng action si Presidente habang kayo ngawa ng ngawa.

No offense sir subicboy this answer is not directed to you but dun sa idea na:

hindi maging pasaway at sakit ng ulo = tulong sa gubyerno...

medyo idealistic lang siguro ako kasi para naman sa akin:

hindi pasaway at sakit ng ulo = obligasyon mo bilang pilipino
pagbabayad ng buwis = obligasyon bilang pilipino
pag aaral ng mabuti = obligasyon mo sa magulang
etc.... etc...

sa pambabatikos naman na part ... civil rights mo yun kung may mali kang nakikita pwede mong ivoice out yun. mag mo lang islander or murahin or iname call yun mga tao/ presidente.

in the end of the day naman whether pro or anti we need to respect the idea of each other kasi check and balance lang naman ang nangyayari and everyone naman is iisa ang goal... mapaganda ang pilipinas in each and every way na makakaya niya...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: naruto789544 October 30, 2016, 09:54:43 AM
No offense sir subicboy this answer is not directed to you but dun sa idea na:

hindi maging pasaway at sakit ng ulo = tulong sa gubyerno...

medyo idealistic lang siguro ako kasi para naman sa akin:

hindi pasaway at sakit ng ulo = obligasyon mo bilang pilipino
pagbabayad ng buwis = obligasyon bilang pilipino
pag aaral ng mabuti = obligasyon mo sa magulang
etc.... etc...

sa pambabatikos naman na part ... civil rights mo yun kung may mali kang nakikita pwede mong ivoice out yun. mag mo lang islander or murahin or iname call yun mga tao/ presidente.

in the end of the day naman whether pro or anti we need to respect the idea of each other kasi check and balance lang naman ang nangyayari and everyone naman is iisa ang goal... mapaganda ang pilipinas in each and every way na makakaya niya...

this is my stand also... we all have to share in the effort to make the country proud again... rather than just point fingers, why don't we do something ourselves to better the nation...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: subicboy October 30, 2016, 10:54:27 AM
No offense sir subicboy this answer is not directed to you but dun sa idea na:

hindi maging pasaway at sakit ng ulo = tulong sa gubyerno...

medyo idealistic lang siguro ako kasi para naman sa akin:

hindi pasaway at sakit ng ulo = obligasyon mo bilang pilipino
pagbabayad ng buwis = obligasyon bilang pilipino
pag aaral ng mabuti = obligasyon mo sa magulang
etc.... etc...

sa pambabatikos naman na part ... civil rights mo yun kung may mali kang nakikita pwede mong ivoice out yun. mag mo lang islander or murahin or iname call yun mga tao/ presidente.

in the end of the day naman whether pro or anti we need to respect the idea of each other kasi check and balance lang naman ang nangyayari and everyone naman is iisa ang goal... mapaganda ang pilipinas in each and every way na makakaya niya...

Karapatan natin nga yan, pero sumusobra na ang pambabatikos, gumagawa ng mgagandang bagay, batikos pa rin. San lulugar ang gobyernong to sa mga taong ngawa ng ngawa?

Ang pagtupad sa iyong mga obligasyon ay tulong sa gobyerno. Halimbawa ang pagsasabi mo na obligasyon ng isang anak ang magaral ng mabuti. Para sa magulang malaking tulong un dahil mas hindi sila magaalala sa pangtuition at allowance ng anak halimbawa na bumagsak at umulit ang anak nila ng subject. Mas mabilis sila makatapos ng pagaaral, mas maaga sila makakapagwork , mas maaga sila magiging independent at hindi na umasa sa magulang.

Ang pagvvolunteer ay direktang pagtulong sa tao. Kung lahat tayo tumutulong sa pamamagitan ng pagtupad ng ating mga obligasyon sa bansa, hindi na kailangan pagvvolunteer dhil may sapat na pondo at katiwasayan ang bansa para maghire ng tao na gagawa ng mga ginagawa ng volunteer ngayon.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: naruto789544 October 31, 2016, 11:39:19 AM
nobody can please everyone... we all know that.... let history judge them... the future generations will know who did their best and who just stood there for the ride...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: SpyTamers November 02, 2016, 02:10:32 AM
nobody can please everyone... we all know that.... let history judge them... the future generations will know who did their best and who just stood there for the ride...

Very well said. Yong title kasi ng Topic naka HB wahhahahaha kaya di namin mapigilan mag react. So guys just chill and relax let the president do his job.

Imagine niyo lang sinabe ni Duterte if ma push through yong Federal System di na aabutin mag 6 years yong presidency niya mag step down na siya then you can choose your president, if may natira pang maganda para sa position na yon you can vote. Kaya as of now relax nalang kayo wag puro nega.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: budy0409 November 03, 2016, 08:45:38 AM
http://www.rappler.com/nation/149806-duterte-announces-military-economic-split-from-us

Welp should have seen this coming. Sabi nga, if you can't beat them, give them all you have and join them and get rid of your friends lol.

The retard you were talking about just convinced the Chinese to "somehow" acknowledge the Hague ruling regarding the status of Scarborough Shoal (declared as common fishing grounds for both Chinese and the Philippines) which the previous administration together with the US not able to do in 4 years.

Now, Scarborough Shoal is open to Filipino Fishermen. Though there is no written agreement yet "due to the words to be used" said Harry Roque, there is a "modus vivendi" to allow our local fishermen to go and fish there.

That's what a retard can do where a Wharton or an Ateneo Grad together with the US failed to do in the last 4 years.

Remember even within our family not all has likable personalities. But we accept that person as "what he is" because he's family. But even that doesn't necessarily mean approving what we do not like about that person.

Let's talk about facts, not fret about how we disliked the man as a person.
 
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: rodeo November 03, 2016, 10:04:57 AM
actually as per Representative Harry Roque said China is asking the Philippines to sign an agreement which states na "Beijing was “allowing” Filipino fishermen to return to Scarborough Shoal" which means inaacknowledge ng philippines na sa china ang scarborough. Kaya binalik  nila ang agreement letter at pinaparevise ito sa china. Kaya hindi din inaalis ng china ang mag vessel niya sa scarborough, pinayagan niya lang temporary mangisda mga pinoy. China is not accepting the Hague ruling it is the otherway around, pinapaacknowledge nila na nakikiusap tayo mangisda sa bakuran nila.

Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/148097/philippines-rejects-china-language-in-scarborough-proposal#ixzz4P14PTGD9




"http://globalnation.inquirer.net/148097/philippines-rejects-china-language-in-scarborough-proposal
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: budy0409 November 03, 2016, 11:07:37 AM
actually as per Representative Harry Roque said China is asking the Philippines to sign an agreement which states na "Beijing was “allowing” Filipino fishermen to return to Scarborough Shoal" which means inaacknowledge ng philippines na sa china ang scarborough. Kaya binalik  nila ang agreement letter at pinaparevise ito sa china. Kaya hindi din inaalis ng china ang mag vessel niya sa scarborough, pinayagan niya lang temporary mangisda mga pinoy. China is not accepting the Hague ruling it is the otherway around, pinapaacknowledge nila na nakikiusap tayo mangisda sa bakuran nila.

Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/148097/philippines-rejects-china-language-in-scarborough-proposal#ixzz4P14PTGD9




"http://globalnation.inquirer.net/148097/philippines-rejects-china-language-in-scarborough-proposal

You seemed to have a "strange" way of reading situations like this, still I respect that.

I'll be quick since I'm using mobile fone only.

I don't really agree on what you said that parang nakikiusap tayo to allow our fishermen to fish in Scarborough Shoal. There is more to that.

Just now I read Ashley Townshend article published in CNN online (by the way. Townshend is a Research Fellow at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney, Australia), he just explained well what I thought was the  realistic assessment of what has transpired in Duterte's China's visit and the return of Filipino fishermen in Scarborough Shoal.

It's lengthy but worth reading. So please take time to read.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/31/opinions/philippines-china-us-scarborough-shoal-south-china-sea/index.html


: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: naruto789544 November 03, 2016, 11:19:01 AM
well the analysis of townsend indicates a more asian approach to matters... let's wait and see on what roque has to say...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: 2fear! November 03, 2016, 02:28:51 PM
Daming mga bobong manghuhula dito...

Di nyo abot ang laro ni PDigong sa pagpapatakbo... Di yan bobo para ipahamak bansa natin...

Antay antay lang kayo... 3months pa lang dami ng nagawa..

Ito naman mga alipin ng dilawan... Reklamo ng reklamo.. Akala mo kung sinonh mga matatalinong analyst!

Mga putang kano kayo!
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: rodeo November 04, 2016, 09:04:42 AM
You seemed to have a "strange" way of reading situations like this, still I respect that.

I'll be quick since I'm using mobile fone only.

I don't really agree on what you said that parang nakikiusap tayo to allow our fishermen to fish in Scarborough Shoal. There is more to that.

Just now I read Ashley Townshend article published in CNN online (by the way. Townshend is a Research Fellow at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney, Australia), he just explained well what I thought was the  realistic assessment of what has transpired in Duterte's China's visit and the return of Filipino fishermen in Scarborough Shoal.

It's lengthy but worth reading. So please take time to read.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/31/opinions/philippines-china-us-scarborough-shoal-south-china-sea/index.html

its representative harry roque's word and not mine as per the article pati sa tv interview niya. i do believe na kasama si Representative Harry Roque na bumabalangkas ng agreement between china and philippines kaya nga po pinapaparevise nila yun agreement. Kasama si harry roque sa china unlike the others na analyst lang ..  ito po yun word  niya per anc  interview. IT is not my words or opinion:

In an interview with Lynda Jumilla on ANC’s “Beyond Politics” aired Tuesday night, Roque said there is already a “modus vivendi” or an arrangement between the two countries that the Filipino fishermen would regain access in the Panatag Shoal, a traditional Filipino fishing ground being claimed by China.

Roque, however, said the agreement has yet to be formalized in writing due to problem with the “use of words”.

“My understanding is, there is already a modus vivendi, it’s already an agreement that we can fish. What has kept us from signing anything in writing is a apparently a problem with the proper words to be used,” Roque said.

“China wants to say that they have allowed us to fish and Philippine authorities refused that language because we don’t need anyone’s permission to fish in this tradition fishing ground,” Roque explained.

Roque, who was part of President Rodrigo Duterte’s entourage during a state visit in China last week, said both sides are committed to reaching a final agreement on the matter.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: naruto789544 November 05, 2016, 08:06:22 AM
agree on the reason... why ask permission from something which is ours...  hope this doesn't end again on another stalemate favoring china...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: jnrd25 November 05, 2016, 08:51:27 PM
2 words=duterte resign.
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: etong November 05, 2016, 09:13:24 PM
2 words=duterte resign.

Bakit?

Pakisabi kung may mali or "resign worthy" Dito sa mga nakalista. Hindi sumagot yung isa e baka ikaw may masabi ka. Gusto ko lang malaman kung ano nakikita nyo na hindi ko nakikita. Salamat.

http://espiya.net/forum/index.php?topic=168527.0#sthash.csEoBpG5.dpbs (http://espiya.net/forum/index.php?topic=168527.0#sthash.csEoBpG5.dpbs)
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: pumpy November 06, 2016, 12:47:33 AM
"Barack Obama’s ‘Asian pivot’ failed. China is in the ascendancy"

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/25/obama-failed-asian-pivot-china-ascendant
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: xeoxander01 November 07, 2016, 06:07:37 AM
Ang daming naging Economist at Political Analyst bigla.

may "gone full retard pang nalalaman"

::laffman

: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: naruto789544 November 07, 2016, 06:59:19 AM
hahaha... chillax guys... just share your thoughts and read what others has to say... healthy converse lang dapat tayong lahat...
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: brandon_jom November 08, 2016, 04:44:29 PM
Dapat si Mar Roxas na lang ang nanalo  ::laffman
: Re: Duterte has gone full retard
: itsmeden November 09, 2016, 12:55:47 AM
Dapat si Mar Roxas na lang ang nanalo  ::laffman

This is the best post so far   ;D toast::