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Espiya Newstand (Current Events, Classifieds, Events) => Current Events => : lawrencium February 16, 2016, 12:49:35 PM

: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium February 16, 2016, 12:49:35 PM
May panibagong sumiklab na issue na naman sa internet at ito yung remark ni Sir Idol Manny Pacquiao laban sa mga jokla, lgbt, me personally5 years k na yung laban namin ng mga kagrupo ko sa sekularismo at mga subset nito tulad ng LGBT, ang grupo ko ay kinaaniban ng iba't ibang tao sa bawat sektor ng lipunan pero madalas sa kanila ay mga akademiko na galing sa ateneo, la salle uste, yung iba naman ay mga nag aaral ng philosophy at yung layunin ng grupo ay para patayin yung  lumalaking sekularismo na dala ng mga westerno at european na bansa andyan na yung LGBT,same sex marriage,atheism ,seperation of church and state at lahat na under sa sekularismo at dun sa limang taon na yon na pagiging myembro ko eh nakabangga ko na halos lahat ng uri ng mga ito at napansin ko sa limang taong yon ay yung pagiging hostile nila sa paniniwala ng iba. example like ngayon, tatawagin ka nilang bigot at homophobic pag hindi ka sang ayon sa kajoklaan tulad ng ginagawa nila ngayon kay sir manny, ang pag tindig ba sa pinaniniwalaan mo ay senyales ng pagiging BIGOT? ang pag kundena ba sa kabaklaan ay homophobia? of course hinde otherwise pwede kitang tawaging bigot din dahil ayaw mong mag countenance ng alternatives maliban sa hardened prejudice mo.at saka isa pa, nauubusan na ng ground ang lgbt dahil sila mismo ang nag eerode nito, take this manny pacquiao example again,galit na galit sila kasi inihambing sila ni  pacman sa  mga hayop, PERO hindi ba lagi nilang ginagawang reference ang mga hayop at kalikasan para i justify ang kabaklaan nila?tulad ng paggamit nila ng argumentong "homosexuality occurs in nature therefore it's normal"well hindi porke nangyari sa kalikasan eh normal na. nangyayari din ang incest sa kalikasan so meaning normal ito at kailangan din nating i-adapt? ang kabaklaan ay estado lamang ng pag iisip or state of mind, libo libo yung kaso ng mga bakla na  nagiging straight later in life isa na don yung pinsan ko, patunay na wala itong basehan biologically, at info lang alam niyo ba na under APA American Psychological association decades ago na classified bilang sakit sa pag iisip ang homosexuality? bakit nila ito dineclassify then?  kasi naglunsad ang LGBT community ng malawakang panggugulo ,rally upang i declassify ito tulad din ng ginagawa nila ngayon.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: carlocarr February 16, 2016, 07:21:03 PM
Baket ba ang laki ng problema na mga tao sa LGBT? Ikakaganda ba ng lipunan kung mawala ang bakla o tomboy? Its a giant waste of time if you ask me and you're hurting our fellow Filipinos with judgmental eyes and words. 
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kicakepucake February 17, 2016, 03:49:04 AM
Ayos lang naman sa LGBT yan, nung mga panahong nilalait nila ang Pamilya Pakyaw, ang nanay nya, maging si Manny may narinig ba sila sa mga ito. Saka karamihan sa mga bakla mapanlait, at karamihan ng baklang salita mga negatibo at ginagamit sa panlalait., na isip ba nila na nakakasakit yung mga sinasabi nila sa kapwa nila,then pag sila nasaktan umaalma agad sila. Sana pag nanalo si  DU30 isama sila sa mga papatayin niya mga buwisit sila.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium February 17, 2016, 04:02:31 AM
take this simple logic, dito lang patay na ang argument ng lgbt, mabubuhay ba tayo na wala ang mga homo? syempre oo, eh mabubuhay ba naman tayo kung wala ang mga hetero or straight? syempre hinde, yun ang patunay na abnormalidad sa pagiisip ang homosexuality, tawagin mokong bigot, homophobic wala akong pakialam.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: zensuke101 February 17, 2016, 04:42:06 AM
nag apologize naman si Pacman
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kobeyaki February 17, 2016, 07:09:17 AM
Ayos lang naman sa LGBT yan, nung mga panahong nilalait nila ang Pamilya Pakyaw, ang nanay nya, maging si Manny may narinig ba sila sa mga ito. Saka karamihan sa mga bakla mapanlait, at karamihan ng baklang salita mga negatibo at ginagamit sa panlalait., na isip ba nila na nakakasakit yung mga sinasabi nila sa kapwa nila,then pag sila nasaktan umaalma agad sila. Sana pag nanalo si  DU30 isama sila sa mga papatayin niya mga buwisit sila.

Lame argument
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 17, 2016, 07:31:36 AM
Ayos lang naman sa LGBT yan, nung mga panahong nilalait nila ang Pamilya Pakyaw, ang nanay nya, maging si Manny may narinig ba sila sa mga ito. Saka karamihan sa mga bakla mapanlait, at karamihan ng baklang salita mga negatibo at ginagamit sa panlalait., na isip ba nila na nakakasakit yung mga sinasabi nila sa kapwa nila,then pag sila nasaktan umaalma agad sila. Sana pag nanalo si  DU30 isama sila sa mga papatayin niya mga buwisit sila.
Kasi hindi naman lahat nang nasa LGBT ang lumalait kala Pacquiao dati. Yung mangilan ngilan lang na maiiingay. Pero yung comment ni Pacquiao. Nilahat nya.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 17, 2016, 07:32:55 AM
take this simple logic, dito lang patay na ang argument ng lgbt, mabubuhay ba tayo na wala ang mga homo? syempre oo, eh mabubuhay ba naman tayo kung wala ang mga hetero or straight? syempre hinde, yun ang patunay na abnormalidad sa pagiisip ang homosexuality, tawagin mokong bigot, homophobic wala akong pakialam.
Not true. What makes you think hindi kayang mabuhay nang mga LGBT kung walang mga straight?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kobeyaki February 17, 2016, 08:52:16 AM
Kasi hindi naman lahat nang nasa LGBT ang lumalait kala Pacquiao dati. Yung mangilan ngilan lang na maiiingay. Pero yung comment ni Pacquiao. Nilahat nya.


Iba naman yung lait sa ginamit kang  subject sa mga comedy bar.

Yng nagtatanggol kay manny lait pala sa kanila yung ginamit kang subject sa stand up comedy. Lol

: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 17, 2016, 09:35:51 AM
Hindi lang sa comedy bar yun. Madami talagang mga bakla sa kanto kanto na pinagtatawanan si mommy D.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: dweizz February 17, 2016, 09:50:15 AM
madami nagagalit kay manny pero walang nagagalit sa nagturo kay manny ng ganung pag iisip sa mga lgbt... bakit kaya?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 February 17, 2016, 10:22:29 AM
madami nagagalit kay manny pero walang nagagalit sa nagturo kay manny ng ganung pag iisip sa mga lgbt... bakit kaya?

i think it's his own thinking... remember converted pastor na siya sa isang christian church... anyway, i respect his views.. maybe just the wrong choice of words..
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: weng151515 February 17, 2016, 11:05:30 AM
lets put it this way... if ypu are one of this LGBT, do you believe you are an animal to be compare as is.. if not, ano ipinaglalaban nyo kung sa pananaw nyo di naman kayo ganon ka animal...if you believe you are not that kind of of animal then stop it..after all yun ang opinion ni manny sa katulad nyo..again an opinion...if ever galit kayo, then you are  considering yourself as animal as what manny says, coz you believe sa opinion...kata nga ipinaglalaban nyo di ba...dahil gaya nyong mga mga animal ay may right din...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium February 17, 2016, 11:37:02 AM
Putang ina!!!!! WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao

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: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 17, 2016, 12:03:48 PM
lol sang page yan?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kobeyaki February 17, 2016, 05:06:51 PM
Nike already drops manny as one if their endorser.

Paalala. Hindi po ako gay or member of lgbt community.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: dweizz February 17, 2016, 07:53:24 PM
i think it's his own thinking... remember converted pastor na siya sa isang christian church... anyway, i respect his views.. maybe just the wrong choice of words..

knowing manny most likely he read some passage from the bible
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: trollforum February 17, 2016, 08:23:41 PM
Manny is just saying the truth. Kung nka sulat lng sa bibliya na pde ang homosexual acts, edi ganun pro same sex marriage na din siya.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: carlocarr February 17, 2016, 09:18:13 PM
Anu papala pa ang pinagkaiba naten sa mga Muslim terrorists kung gagawin din naten lahat para lang maipagdiinan ang ating 'belief', pinagkaiba lang eh sila nananakit physically, tayu naman nanakit verbally. So pag may terrorist attack due to their muslim belief, wag na kayu magreklamo, kasi karamihan saten pala dito ganun din. Magkaibang ways man pero nanakit parin altogether.
: NIKE drops Manny over Homophobic remarks
: MasterChief63 February 17, 2016, 09:55:26 PM
confirmed NIKE's Endorsement deal with Manny is over
: NIKE drops Manny over Homophobic remarks(Bob Arum Approves)
: MasterChief63 February 17, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
confirmed NIKE's Endorsement deal with Manny is over

Did NOT see this one coming!!
Manny Pacquiao's longtime promoter Bob Arum says he AGREES with Nike's decision to fire the boxer -- condemning his anti-gay comments as offensive and completely out of touch.
Arum joined the guys on the "TMZ Sports" show (airs Wednesday at 9 PM PT, 12 ET on FS1) -- and took a stand AGAINST his own client saying, "Manny's remarks were offensive to many people ... Nike acted appropriately."
You gotta watch the entire interview on the show tonight on FS1 -- we asked Arum if he believes Manny is a homophobe and whether or not he'll drop Manny as a client.
The whole thing is very interesting.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2016/02/17/manny-pacquiao-manager-applauds-nike-they-did-the-right-thing/#ixzz40UE8Y5qP
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kobeyaki February 17, 2016, 10:33:55 PM
Hindi lang nike,  wonderful pistachios also drops him.

Sunod nyan footlocker at iba pang endorsent nya abroad.

Sa local kaya may maglalakas lloob bitawan siya?

Delikado pa yan di matuloy laban nya pag walang nakuhang sponsor ang promoter.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: sdelav1 February 17, 2016, 10:45:45 PM
just to keep things on track, this could be the verse that Manny was referring to:

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. "
 
- from the New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition of the Bible

it is very easy for one to air one's comments without digging a bit deeper to find out the reasons why someone (in this case, Manny Pacquiao) said something. Perhaps, we should ask ourselves why he said it and what his basis was. i am only presenting this to keep everyone anchored on the topic.

hope this helps.

: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: KaMushroom February 17, 2016, 11:05:17 PM
just to keep things on track, this could be the verse that Manny was referring to:

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. "
 
- from the New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition of the Bible

it is very easy for one to air one's comments without digging a bit deeper to find out the reasons why someone (in this case, Manny Pacquiao) said something. Perhaps, we should ask ourselves why he said it and what his basis was. i am only presenting this to keep everyone anchored on the topic.

hope this helps.

Nagtatagalog siya. Pwede niyang sabihing mali dahil according yun sa beliefs niya. Pero ang sinabi niya mas masahol pa sa hayop? edi ba medyo sobra naman yun?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: dweizz February 17, 2016, 11:14:53 PM
just to keep things on track, this could be the verse that Manny was referring to:

Leviticus 20:13 "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them. "
 
- from the New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition of the Bible

it is very easy for one to air one's comments without digging a bit deeper to find out the reasons why someone (in this case, Manny Pacquiao) said something. Perhaps, we should ask ourselves why he said it and what his basis was. i am only presenting this to keep everyone anchored on the topic.

hope this helps.

youve just opened a can worms... nyahaha
sabi nga nila "blind faith is dangerous"... stick to common sense na lang ako
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: unicodenn February 18, 2016, 02:03:49 AM
I'm on Manny's side. it's just that, medyo harsh lng ang words na nagamit.

My opinion is, I think Manny is refering to the activity not the person itself. Kung mapapakinggan niyo uli siya, the topic is about same sex marriage, meaning yung activity not the person itself. Ang nakatuwa lang dito, ang daming nagreact talaga. meaning ginagawa nila? Kahit naman hindi sa Bible mgrefer, kahit batas fair ang treatment sa mga straight at hindi, pero pagdating sa behaviour dun ngiiba. same sex marriage and natural marriage are different bahaviours.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: trollforum February 18, 2016, 02:22:50 AM
Ung pagcompare niya ung tao sa hayop dpat wala ng usapan tungkol dun dahil nagsorry narin siya at mali daw iyon.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kicakepucake February 18, 2016, 02:51:10 AM
 Masama ba na nagsabi lang totoo si Manny, talaga namang "MASAHOL PA SILA SA HAYOP" Sige nga mga LGBT, humanap kayo ng hayop na nag se SEX na pareho ng kasarian wala naman diba!!!! Meron bang Lesbian na Leon! Baklang Elepante, Bisexual na Cobra at Transgender na Aso, wala diba! ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: MasterChief63 February 18, 2016, 03:27:16 AM
search  Homosexual Animals on Youtube and this is the No.1 Result, youre welcome  ::laffman  ::laffman  ::laffman  ::laffman

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYdcvRe7ox8[/youtube]

also BODY LANGUAGE 101

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2q81xyp.jpg)
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: tetikila February 18, 2016, 03:53:00 AM
aywa nilang makumpara sa hayop pero hilig nilang mag pa dog style period!! :D
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: TobleRONe February 18, 2016, 04:27:41 AM
Ang naging problema kasi sa sinabi ni Pacq ay nanghusga sya.

tapos magququote pa sya sa bible, blah blah blah...

lumalabas tuloy na isa syang ipokrito. dahil kung sumusunod sya sa aral ng bibliya, malamang nakalimutan nya ang:

John 8:7 Sa patuloy nilang pagtatanong sa kaniya ay tumuwid siya. Sinabi niya sa kanila: Ang sinumang walang kasalanan sa inyo ang siyang maunang bumato sa kaniya.

at ang Matthew 7:1-2 "Do not judge so that you will not be judged. "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.…

kaya kung ano man ang batikos na tinatanggap nya ngayon dahil sa kagagawan nya rin.

Kung anoman ang ginagawa ng magkaparehong LGBT (kung nagkakabayuhan or napopompyangan sila)wala na sya roon at wala na rin tayo doon. Bahala na ang Diyos ang humusga.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 18, 2016, 05:31:48 AM
Manny is just saying the truth. Kung nka sulat lng sa bibliya na pde ang homosexual acts, edi ganun pro same sex marriage na din siya.
Ang problema hindi lahat nang pinoy ay katoliko.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: trollforum February 18, 2016, 08:11:32 AM
Ang problema hindi lahat nang pinoy ay katoliko.

hindi naman katoliko si pacman. pero ang point is inaadress nya un sa mga Christian, ano kaba. Alangan naman iaddress un sa muslim
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Idiot February 18, 2016, 08:33:31 AM
Ang problema hindi lahat nang pinoy ay katoliko.

even islam condemns homosexuality yung mga nakakausap namin muslim kapag naging binabae e binubugbog nila

buddism have also restrictions

north america at western europe e dumadami ang mga atheist at no religion even sa school e tinuturo nila e evolution not creation kaya expect na tanggap dun ang homosexuality
 
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 February 18, 2016, 11:41:34 AM
trending na talaga... wonder if this will affect his candidacy for a senatorial seat????
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: 2fear! February 18, 2016, 11:56:17 AM
Dahil sa pahayag ni pacman.. Una siya sa listahan ko bilang senador!
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: zensuke101 February 18, 2016, 01:19:15 PM
sayang yung nike endorsement ni paman
3 million din yata yun
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: leightot February 18, 2016, 06:46:32 PM
tinamaan kasi ng sobra yung mahilig sa M2M at F2M kaya butthurt sila. haha.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: tiberionx February 18, 2016, 07:21:47 PM
So now manny is quoting Leviticus about the issue

so masama din magpagupit (Leviticus 19:27) masama kumain ng dinuguan (Leviticus 19:26) masama magtanim ng kamote at kangkong ng sabay o magsuot ng jacket at tshirt ng sabay (Leviticus 19:19) etc etc etc ...

Im not against manny, im against religion being stupid and obsolete

... and people still believe that bullshit

: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: godo12345 February 18, 2016, 11:55:18 PM
to the people who are affected by manny's opinion:

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m270ciHgWS1qbnggp.png)
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium February 19, 2016, 01:47:39 AM
Ang kabaklaan po ay isa paring sakit sa utak to start with  ang sobrang sama eh linalagay pa natin ito sa isang esteemed status ,nakakasuka talaga, FYI lang ang kabaklaan po ay  qualified bilang sakit sa utak under Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders at ito ay categorised sa (sexual deviation) heto po ang unang mental disorder  na related sa sekswalidad till 1970 hanggang pasukin na ng lgbt ang sistema at nag lunsad sila ng malawakang panggugulo  upang tanggalin ang kabaklaan bilang sakit sa utak tulad din po ito ng nangyari sa nike ngayon, ang lgbt po ay ma impluwensyang sangay ng sekularismo masakit mang aminin dahil nga european at western ito,takot mawalan ng nike ng isang malaking market.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: yonipspy February 19, 2016, 01:56:53 AM
daming nag react hehehe guilty lang siguro? kung si boy abunda pa sino kaba? sino daw si pacman?

hahaha natawa ako kay boy abunda at vice gwapo este ganda "daw" makapanlait wagas... i meron ba kaya sila na contribute para sa pinas? celebrity at edukado tao kayo wag nyu compare kay pacman buhay nyu... LOL 
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kicakepucake February 19, 2016, 03:58:10 AM
Calling the attention of PAWS-Philippine Animal Welfare Association,Ipagtanggol nyo naman ang mga hayop, dahil sa sinabi ni Pacman na Masahol pa sa Hayop ang LGBT,Hayop ang ginamit na salita in short that is in General, diba dapat naging specific na lang si Manny, sa BABOY na lang dapat nya kinumpara mga LGBT kasi sila naman ang gumagawa ng KABABUYAN eh! kawawa naman yung ibang mga hayop nadamay pa!  ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: kicakepucake February 19, 2016, 03:59:20 AM
Society pala hehehe
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: weng151515 February 19, 2016, 07:42:09 AM

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: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: DXM February 19, 2016, 09:55:24 AM
Heto lang yan eh, man was created to procreate.. Put a man and a woman in an island and two men or two women  in another..guess which island will be populated for many generations... Like what mammy said, it's not the people but the act that he disagrees with.. Watch the whole video for you to understand what he really meant.. Someone edited the video and highlighted the animal part ONLY
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 February 19, 2016, 09:59:31 AM
yup... saw the whole video... that is the sad part of it... it was edited so that only the ones they want to appear shows...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: TobleRONe February 19, 2016, 06:05:11 PM
kahit na edited, ang problema ay nanghusga si Pacquiao. Kung aral din lang ng bibliya ang argumento ni Pac, nagkamali pa rin sya.

Dahil kung ano man ang nagaganap sa pribadong buhay ng same sex, wala na tayo doon. maliban na lang kung gagawin nila in public. Bahala na ang Diyos ang humusga, hindi ang tao.

Hindi rin natin pwede ipilit ang paniniwala natin sa iba.

iququote ko lang itong nabasa ko:
Outside of the heart, everything is just clothing. Our gender, race, education, religion, social status, civil status… they are all just outward clothing. And we each can wear whatever clothes we want as long as we do no harm to others.

When we judge others we judge ourselves, for we are them and they are us.

For those who believe in no god, let us not force our gods upon them. Well-meaning as we may be, imposing our beliefs on others is an act of violence against them.

And for those who believe in a god, let us not judge them for the private things they do that don't affect our own lives. Judgment is a job for their god to do, not ours.

Each person has a unique spiritual journey. What works for Manny Pacquiao may not necessarily work for others. And what works for me is not guaranteed to work for you.

The important thing is to find your own enlightenment, and for everyone to respect one another's journey.

: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: cute_boyz February 19, 2016, 07:49:47 PM
I'm on Manny,,,
Nagsabi lang sya ng opinion nya...
Kapag LGBT ang nanglait kay Manny ok lang?
Tapos pag nagpahayag sya ng sarili nyang opinyon na di nagustuhan e mali na agad si MAnny??
Bato-bato sa langit tamaan ang tatamaan,,,
Ang bakla ay bakla..
Ang lalaking ibon ay para sa babaeng ibon lamang...
Isa pa bilang Pinoy, dahil sa ginawa ng Nike kay Manny ay huwag na din suportahan ang Nike,,
Madami pang ibang sports brand na maganda dyan...
My two cents..
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: azzkicker February 19, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
I'm with Manny! di porke nagsabi sya ng totoo e, mali na sya...just a poor choice of words pero kung matalino ka, you can get the point, tsaka di kumpleto yung video na pinalabas sa tv kaya maraming naka-misinterpret nung sinabi nya.

I respect LGBT community, but still I can't accept them...me nabasa lang akong quote dati  na ang sabi, they are an Abomination!

buti na lang Puma ang brand ko at hinde Nike! pero wala din yan, Nike is a big company, maliit lang tayong mga pinoy, at iilan lang ang may kayang bumili ng orig na Nike!
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: DXM February 20, 2016, 11:42:51 AM
In the same video he clearly said that he is not condemning the people but the act.. The sin... He did not say " Masahol pa KAYO" sa hayup...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Pandinox February 20, 2016, 10:03:51 PM
di ako against sa LGBT community pero sobrang OA naman ng reaction nila lalo na si vice at boy. react kaagad ng di ngiisip at di pa ata kumpleto kung napanuod nilang video.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium February 20, 2016, 11:53:53 PM
alam niyo ba na ngayon nag sign sila ng 1 million signature campaign para hindi matuloy yung retirement fight ni Pacman,dito lang kita mo na kung gaano sila ka balat sibuyas pero pag yung ibang paniniwala ang ginagawa nilang topic sa mga gay bar ok lang
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Redaxel February 20, 2016, 11:56:59 PM
Still proud of you Manny!
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: senjuu February 21, 2016, 09:05:50 PM
Kasi hindi naman lahat nang nasa LGBT ang lumalait kala Pacquiao dati. Yung mangilan ngilan lang na maiiingay. Pero yung comment ni Pacquiao. Nilahat nya.

hindi talaga mkaintindi yung iba na yung kinokondena ni Pacquiao e yung gawain hindi yung mismong mga tao. Typical na reaction yan ng mga guilty eh
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau February 21, 2016, 10:06:56 PM
hindi talaga mkaintindi yung iba na yung kinokondena ni Pacquiao e yung gawain hindi yung mismong mga tao. Typical na reaction yan ng mga guilty eh

Gays will be gays, lesbians will be lesbians. To condemn the act is to condemn the LGBT community as well. Kaya nga tinawag na homosexual  dahil ang thoughts at actions nila ay ganun. San ka nakakita ng baklang kung mag isip at umarte ay straight? Of course kung ano preference nila, naturally they will follow it and kung ano man ang gusto nilang gawin sa buhay nila ay labas na tayo doon. Regardless of your religious point of view.

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What annoys me about this issue is... Bakit ganoon ang mga religiosa? Ano ba direct effect sa personal life nila kung mag karoon ng Same sex marriage? At bakit sila nagpapa apekto, whereas hindi naman sila ang ikakasal? Whereas wala naman kinalaman ang Same sex marriage sa religion. Wala namang copyright ang Kristiyanismo sa kasalan as marriage is as old as civilization itself and predates the rise of Christianity. Hindi naman involved ang Holy Matrimony ng Simbahan dahil ang same sex marriage ay civil wedding.

If you are going to ask me? Nangingi-alam lang ang mga religious heterosexuals sa buhay ng mga LGBTQ+ na tao in an unwelcomed manner. Hindi porque nakasaad na siya sa Bible ay may karapatan na ang isang religioso na hadlangan ang mga pangarap, kaligayan at karapatan ng mga LGBTQ+ na tao. Sabihin man nating "ULTIMATE TRUTH" umano ang Bibliya.

Hindi nila dapat ginagamit ang Bibliya to oppress people who thinks otherwise from their philosophy.

Add the fact na hindi lahat ng members ng LGBT community ay nag susubscribe sa Kristiyanismo and other Abrahamic faiths. I know few of them who are actually ATHEISTS. With that being said, not only homosexuals ang naaagrabyado ng mga religious sa kanilang pag deny ng rights to same sex marriage. Pati narin ang mga taong hindi naman kasapi sa religion nila. Anyare sa demokrasya mo? Yung mga minority mas konti ang rights?

Fucked up right? Imagine mo di ka kasapi sa isang religion pero sila nagdidikta kung pwede kang magpakasal o hindi? Or kung ano man ang rights na i-aaward sayo.

Imagine lang.
Ex.

INC managed to legally ban Dinuguan all over the archipelago. Dahil bawal daw kaninin ang dugo.
Ano feels nyo mga Dinuguan lovers?

_______________________________________

Regarding Same sex marriage and separation of church and state.

Maraming Christian groups and politicians ang nag de-deny sa LGBT community ng Same Sex Marriage. If you are going to base your decision making for government policies using the Bible. Hindi ba't taliwas ito sa diwa ng separation of church and state?

____________________________________

Last...


You know what grinds my gears? When someone uses the words "common sense". Nayayabangan ako. I find Manny condescending sa statement nya na yan that lead to this. Masaklap pa dun. Ang angas na nga ng delivery. Wrong information pa, when he said na mabuti pa ang mga hayop. Wherein matagal ng napatunayan na maraming klase ng hayop ang nag eengage sa homosexual activities.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium February 22, 2016, 02:51:04 AM

You know what grinds my gears? When someone uses the words "common sense". Nayayabangan ako. I find Manny condescending sa statement nya na yan that lead to this. Masaklap pa dun. Ang angas na nga ng delivery. Wrong information pa, when he said na mabuti pa ang mga hayop. Wherein matagal ng napatunayan na maraming klase ng hayop ang nag eengage sa homosexual activities. - See more at: http://espiya.net/forum/index.php?topic=167656.msg1368769;topicseen#msg1368769

Stating facts is being factual, not condescending.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 22, 2016, 09:38:51 AM


INC managed to legally ban Dinuguan all over the archipelago. Dahil bawal daw kaninin ang dugo.
Ano feels nyo mga Dinuguan lovers?



Source?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 February 22, 2016, 10:27:13 AM
Source?

this is also practiced by my INC friends.... don't know really why but they are not allowed to eat dinuguan...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 22, 2016, 10:26:45 PM
I know INC are not allowed to eat dugo, pero ngayon ko lang narinig na ilegal sa pilipinas ang dinuguan? E Goldilocks nga may tindang dinuguan e.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau February 22, 2016, 11:28:54 PM
Source?

My apologies. Mukhang na confuse ko kayo sa pagkakatype ko ng words. I'm trying to set an example. An imaginary setting with that line. To poke thoughts para sa majority sa atin. Na paano kung another group managed to enforce their will on yours?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau February 22, 2016, 11:35:10 PM
Stating facts is being factual, not condescending.

The way he delivered the statement is what I find condescending.

"makakakita ka ba ng any animals na lalaki sa lalaki at babae sa babae". - There is nothing factual about this statement.

http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau February 23, 2016, 12:27:54 AM
Source?
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Imagine lang.
Ex.

INC managed to legally ban Dinuguan all over the archipelago. Dahil bawal daw kaninin ang dugo.
Ano feels nyo mga Dinuguan lovers?
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Heto yung buod na dapat binasa mo to make sense of it. Magulo ako mag group ng words. I guess I should have typed it in a way like.. Imagine you are in an alternate world wherein...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: chukino February 23, 2016, 12:45:16 AM
My apologies. Mukhang na confuse ko kayo sa pagkakatype ko ng words. I'm trying to set an example. An imaginary setting with that line. To poke thoughts para sa majority sa atin. Na paano kung another group managed to enforce their will on yours?

Well, to me that is foul. You cannot enforce your will to others lalo na kung di mo naman sya kasama sa isang samahan o organisasyon, mabuti man o masama ang layunin mo.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: chukino February 23, 2016, 12:59:14 AM
this is also practiced by my INC friends.... don't know really why but they are not allowed to eat dinuguan...

Because blood is life:
Lev 17: -14Sapagka't tungkol sa buhay ng lahat ng laman, ang dugo nga niyan ay gaya rin ng buhay niyan. Kaya't sinabi ko sa mga anak ni Israel, Huwag kayong kakain ng dugo ng anomang laman: sapagka't ang buhay ng buong laman ay ang kaniyang dugo: sinomang kumain niyan ay ihihiwalay...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau February 23, 2016, 01:09:53 AM
Well, to me that is foul. You cannot enforce your will to others lalo na kung di mo naman sya kasama sa isang samahan o organisasyon, mabuti man o masama ang layunin mo.

Exactly. Put that line of thinking into the Same sex marriage issue. Then see how religious groups argue against and deny the right of marriage to LGBT people here in RP.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: chukino February 23, 2016, 02:08:52 AM
Exactly. Put that line of thinking into the Same sex marriage issue. Then see how religious groups argue against and deny the right of marriage to LGBT people here in RP.

I think the religious groups as well as their leaders here in the Philippines are just too lenient about the LGBT issue, maybe because of the so called "human rights" and the "star power" effect. But if you would ask the bible concerning the matter, if every individual proven guilty of wrong doing whether normal/straight or LGBT, they should be put away from that particular organization or group, that is "bahay at tapat ko, linis ko"


(http://s13.postimg.org/rbmnm849f/Itiwalag_ang_Kapatid_na_Gumagawa_ng_Bible_Gate.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rbmnm849f/)
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: bigbanggoo February 23, 2016, 07:15:29 AM
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Imagine lang.
Ex.

INC managed to legally ban Dinuguan all over the archipelago. Dahil bawal daw kaninin ang dugo.
Ano feels nyo mga Dinuguan lovers?
-----------------------

Ok I get it now pero mukang malaki naman yung pinagkaiba nang situasyon na yan. Kasi pag ganyan pwinepersa mo yung mga tao na maniwala sa sarili mong belief e yung kay pacquaio personal opinyon lang naman nya yun.

Wala naman tayong magagawa kung ayaw nang simbahan na ikasal yun mga bakla kasi bawal sa religion yun. Kung civil marriage naman ang habol nila for legality's sake e diba matagal nang merong civil parnership?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 February 23, 2016, 12:59:58 PM
got it also... it was a big "what if"... :)

anyway, times have evolved and the lgbt are accepted mostly by the communities already... the only issue here is that though accepted, there are still areas or things which they cannot enforce due to social and moral issues....
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau February 23, 2016, 11:45:20 PM
Ok I get it now pero mukang malaki naman yung pinagkaiba nang situasyon na yan. Kasi pag ganyan pwinepersa mo yung mga tao na maniwala sa sarili mong belief e yung kay pacquaio personal opinyon lang naman nya yun.

Wala naman tayong magagawa kung ayaw nang simbahan na ikasal yun mga bakla kasi bawal sa religion yun. Kung civil marriage naman ang habol nila for legality's sake e diba matagal nang merong civil parnership?

When I thought of that analogy, I was thinking of anti LGBT people in general. I guess that was the disconnect. However

"mas masahol pa sa hayop ang tao." Opinion man nya yan, subjective man siya o hindi. Discriminating parin in content ang message nya and it only helped flare anti LGBT sentiments.

Siguro the reason why I am thinking na anti LGBT talaga siya is dahil hindi ako makapag isip ng compromise about his statement na dinescribe nyang masahol pa sa hayop ang LGBT in which binase nya yun sa FAITH and BELIEF nya at the same time sasabihin OPINYON lang yun which is subjective and not necessarily based on facts when he believes for sure na ang Bible (the main resource of his faith) is the ultimate truth?

AFAIK no rights are awarded so far to LGBTQ+ people regarding civil partnerships.


Side note:

Mayroon mga Anti LGBT groups sa loob ng Camara na nag pupush na i amend ang constitution para maging anti LGBT.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: mocker February 26, 2016, 04:29:11 PM
sayang yung nike endorsement ni paman
3 million din yata yun

Hayaan mo ipaabot natin sa kanya na ibigay na lang sayo ang pag-eendorse niya sa nike!!! ::laffman ::laffman ::laffman
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: senjuu February 28, 2016, 12:06:35 PM
Gays will be gays, lesbians will be lesbians. To condemn the act is to condemn the LGBT community as well. Kaya nga tinawag na homosexual  dahil ang thoughts at actions nila ay ganun. San ka nakakita ng baklang kung mag isip at umarte ay straight? Of course kung ano preference nila, naturally they will follow it and kung ano man ang gusto nilang gawin sa buhay nila ay labas na tayo doon. Regardless of your religious point of view.

_______________________________________________________

Side note:

What annoys me about this issue is... Bakit ganoon ang mga religiosa? Ano ba direct effect sa personal life nila kung mag karoon ng Same sex marriage? At bakit sila nagpapa apekto, whereas hindi naman sila ang ikakasal? Whereas wala naman kinalaman ang Same sex marriage sa religion. Wala namang copyright ang Kristiyanismo sa kasalan as marriage is as old as civilization itself and predates the rise of Christianity. Hindi naman involved ang Holy Matrimony ng Simbahan dahil ang same sex marriage ay civil wedding.

If you are going to ask me? Nangingi-alam lang ang mga religious heterosexuals sa buhay ng mga LGBTQ+ na tao in an unwelcomed manner. Hindi porque nakasaad na siya sa Bible ay may karapatan na ang isang religioso na hadlangan ang mga pangarap, kaligayan at karapatan ng mga LGBTQ+ na tao. Sabihin man nating "ULTIMATE TRUTH" umano ang Bibliya.

Hindi nila dapat ginagamit ang Bibliya to oppress people who thinks otherwise from their philosophy.

Add the fact na hindi lahat ng members ng LGBT community ay nag susubscribe sa Kristiyanismo and other Abrahamic faiths. I know few of them who are actually ATHEISTS. With that being said, not only homosexuals ang naaagrabyado ng mga religious sa kanilang pag deny ng rights to same sex marriage. Pati narin ang mga taong hindi naman kasapi sa religion nila. Anyare sa demokrasya mo? Yung mga minority mas konti ang rights?

Fucked up right? Imagine mo di ka kasapi sa isang religion pero sila nagdidikta kung pwede kang magpakasal o hindi? Or kung ano man ang rights na i-aaward sayo.

Imagine lang.
Ex.

INC managed to legally ban Dinuguan all over the archipelago. Dahil bawal daw kaninin ang dugo.
Ano feels nyo mga Dinuguan lovers?

_______________________________________

Regarding Same sex marriage and separation of church and state.

Maraming Christian groups and politicians ang nag de-deny sa LGBT community ng Same Sex Marriage. If you are going to base your decision making for government policies using the Bible. Hindi ba't taliwas ito sa diwa ng separation of church and state?

____________________________________

Last...


You know what grinds my gears? When someone uses the words "common sense". Nayayabangan ako. I find Manny condescending sa statement nya na yan that lead to this. Masaklap pa dun. Ang angas na nga ng delivery. Wrong information pa, when he said na mabuti pa ang mga hayop. Wherein matagal ng napatunayan na maraming klase ng hayop ang nag eengage sa homosexual activities.


Preference ba kamo? Yun lang ba sukatan ng tama at mali? e pano kung preference ng tao makipag relasyon sa bata, kamag-anak, o sa hayop? Tama ba yun kasi yun preference nya?

Gawin nyo kung ano gusto nyo but don't push this to be legalized...wag nyo babuyin isip ng mga susunod na generation.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 February 28, 2016, 12:55:43 PM
bottom line for me is that we are a society bounded by civil and religious laws and values... if we are to forcibly enforce everything by the essence of so called human rights, then everything would be for naught...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 01, 2016, 11:51:07 PM

Preference ba kamo? Yun lang ba sukatan ng tama at mali? e pano kung preference ng tao makipag relasyon sa bata, kamag-anak, o sa hayop? Tama ba yun kasi yun preference nya?

Gawin nyo kung ano gusto nyo but don't push this to be legalized...wag nyo babuyin isip ng mga susunod na generation.


Ibalik ko sayo ang tanong mo. Ang preference mo ba over same sex marriage ang sukatan ng tama o mali? Ikaw ba ang dapat mag desisyon sa buhay ng ibang taong hindi sumasang ayon sa pananaw at pilosopiya mo?

_______________________________

Here are some parts of your statement na I find alarming. Ibinaba mo na sa level ng pedopilya at bestiality ang homosexuality dinescribe mo pa'ng isang kababuyan. Your basis to equate these as equals? I guess I shouldn't be asking...

If there is one thing I regret sa pinost ko is I used the word "preference". I made it sound homosexuality is a choice when apparently it is not.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 02, 2016, 10:54:02 PM

Preference ba kamo? Yun lang ba sukatan ng tama at mali? e pano kung preference ng tao makipag relasyon sa bata, kamag-anak, o sa hayop? Tama ba yun kasi yun preference nya?

Gawin nyo kung ano gusto nyo but don't push this to be legalized...wag nyo babuyin isip ng mga susunod na generation.


I just wanted to add this..

Tama ba ang pakikipag relasyon sa bata? = May result to child abuse at paedophilia so no.

Tama ba ang makipag relasyon sa kamag anak? =  Cousin marriages? Royalty does it so does half of the world. Especially Islamic states. Nagkataong taboo lang talaga satin yan dahil dala ng US noon but we used to practice it. Kung genetics naman ang usapan, scientists say that the risk of disorders is relatively low kapag cousin marriage at 5% compared to 3% of non related. So, it's not really significant.

Tama ba ang makipag relasyon o talik sa hayop? = No of course. It's unhealthy, dangerous both for the human and the animal. Animal abuse.

Tama ba ang makipag relasyon ang babae sa babae o lalaki sa lalaki? = What are the risks? Disadvantages?

"Gawin nyo kung ano gusto nyo but don't push this to be legalized..." - So yeah LGBT people are trying to do what they want to do. Sabi mo eh tapos sa bandang huli don't push this to be legalized haha.

Side note:

Sa mga kasamahan natin na may opinion na kababuyan ang lalaki sa lalaki at babae sa babae. Nanonood ba kayo ng girl to girl movies or Lesbian Porn. Because that's pretty much.... homo.

bottom line for me is that we are a society bounded by civil and religious laws and values... if we are to forcibly enforce everything by the essence of so called human rights, then everything would be for naught...

Hmm.. Religious laws? Meron ba? We are a secular state. The state is not supposed to favor any religion (separation of church and state). Ako ang point of view ko is, hindi yung mga groups na nag pupush ng human rights ang problema eh. Yung mga religious groups ang problema. They are the ones whose pushing their weight on minorities that they don't agree with.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: senjuu March 04, 2016, 06:09:01 AM
I just wanted to add this..

Tama ba ang pakikipag relasyon sa bata? = May result to child abuse at paedophilia so no.

Tama ba ang makipag relasyon sa kamag anak? =  Cousin marriages? Royalty does it so does half of the world. Especially Islamic states. Nagkataong taboo lang talaga satin yan dahil dala ng US noon but we used to practice it. Kung genetics naman ang usapan, scientists say that the risk of disorders is relatively low kapag cousin marriage at 5% compared to 3% of non related. So, it's not really significant.

Tama ba ang makipag relasyon o talik sa hayop? = No of course. It's unhealthy, dangerous both for the human and the animal. Animal abuse.

Tama ba ang makipag relasyon ang babae sa babae o lalaki sa lalaki? = What are the risks? Disadvantages?

"Gawin nyo kung ano gusto nyo but don't push this to be legalized..." - So yeah LGBT people are trying to do what they want to do. Sabi mo eh tapos sa bandang huli don't push this to be legalized haha.

Side note:

Sa mga kasamahan natin na may opinion na kababuyan ang lalaki sa lalaki at babae sa babae. Nanonood ba kayo ng girl to girl movies or Lesbian Porn. Because that's pretty much.... homo.

Hmm.. Religious laws? Meron ba? We are a secular state. The state is not supposed to favor any religion (separation of church and state). Ako ang point of view ko is, hindi yung mga groups na nag pupush ng human rights ang problema eh. Yung mga religious groups ang problema. They are the ones whose pushing their weight on minorities that they don't agree with.


O sayo na nanggaling ha....mali makipag relasyon sa bata...so ayaw mo maging legal yun di ba? E ung pakikipag relasyon sa kamag anak? Ayaw mo rin yun isalegal di ba? So bakit tama na isalegal ang pakikipag relasyon sa same sex? Kababuyan yun eh:

1 Corinthians 6:9

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality

Bottomline: this is a CHRISTIAN NATION and Homosexuality is ALSO strictly FORBIDDEN in ISLAM

so if you want to defile yourselves do it somewhere else. DO NOT MAKE KIDS THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NORMAL. Kababuyan yan eh.

I know I know...yeah..."EQUAL RIGHTS".....Just remember this...SATAN was the first to demand EQUAL RIGHTS.

BESIDES...GALING NA SAYO NA MINORITY KAYO...SO DON'T PUSH YOUR WEIGHT ON EVERYONE! GO TO THE U.S.THERE YOU CAN BE FREE
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 March 04, 2016, 09:14:46 AM
civil rights have been given to the lgbt community and i think that alone shows we respect them as members of the society... but like what was stated above, there are some things that won't happen here... not in this lifetime of ours...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 04, 2016, 10:13:01 PM
sige ok lng na ma-legalize ang SSM






para malaman ng maraming tao na ang ANAL/VAGINAL FISTING, RIMMING, ANAL/ORAL S** ay nakakasira sa pagkatao ng gumagawa ng ganito at ang mga nag eencourage ng mga ganito, diba ganyan ang HOBBIES at SKILLS nila??????? o ngayon sige sabihin ninyong mali si manny na masahol pa sila kesa sa hayop kulang pa nga yung sinabi nyang yan ehh.


buti pa nga si Fanny serrano saka si Bro. Anthony Roquel (aka. "tonnette macho") sila na mismo naka discover sa sarili nila na mali ang naging buhay nila nuon at halos buong buhay na nila yun pinag sisihan pero magtataka kayo kung bakit wala na kayong naririnig sa kanila as of now.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 04, 2016, 11:04:03 PM
Ang kabaklaan po ay isa paring sakit sa utak to start with  ang sobrang sama eh linalagay pa natin ito sa isang esteemed status ,nakakasuka talaga, FYI lang ang kabaklaan po ay  qualified bilang sakit sa utak under Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders at ito ay categorised sa (sexual deviation) heto po ang unang mental disorder  na related sa sekswalidad till 1970 hanggang pasukin na ng lgbt ang sistema at nag lunsad sila ng malawakang panggugulo  upang tanggalin ang kabaklaan bilang sakit sa utak tulad din po ito ng nangyari sa nike ngayon, ang lgbt po ay ma impluwensyang sangay ng sekularismo masakit mang aminin dahil nga european at western ito,takot mawalan ng nike ng isang malaking market.





here are some proofs:

http://www.home60515.com/27.html

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_mental_health.html

http://henrymakow.com/homosexuality.html

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/02/25/indonesias-leading-psychiatrists-class-homosexuality-as-mental-disorder/


GRID: Gay-Related Immuno Deficiency (aka. AIDS)

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/11/science/new-homosexual-disorder-worries-health-officials.html?pagewanted=all

http://edition.cnn.com/HEALTH/blogs/paging.dr.gupta/2006/11/anatomy-of-name.html



sige lng babuyin nyo pa mga sarili ninyo


: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium March 05, 2016, 04:01:55 AM





here are some proofs:

http://www.home60515.com/27.html

http://psc.dss.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/HTML/facts_mental_health.html

http://henrymakow.com/homosexuality.html

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/02/25/indonesias-leading-psychiatrists-class-homosexuality-as-mental-disorder/


GRID: Gay-Related Immuno Deficiency (aka. AIDS)

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/11/science/new-homosexual-disorder-worries-health-officials.html?pagewanted=all

http://edition.cnn.com/HEALTH/blogs/paging.dr.gupta/2006/11/anatomy-of-name.html



sige lng babuyin nyo pa mga sarili ninyo


salamat sa mga links bro sapat nayan para  magising sila sa katotohanan, ayaw ko na makipag argue tinatamad ako paulit ulit na arguments nalang gamit nila outdated cliche na sa sekularismo at separation of church and state, marami ring data na nagpapakita na masama ang naging dulot ng separation of church and state
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 05, 2016, 05:10:17 AM
sir, nasa bible rin po kasi na dapat magpasakop din tayo sa gobyerno at sa mga nakatataas just like kung paano tayo magpasakop sa lumalang sa lahat pero sa kalagayan natin ngayon pano tayo magpapasakop sa gobyerno kung ang gobyerno rin ang may mali at sila narin mismo ang tumiwalag sa lumalang diba.....sa new testament po yan just forgot kung saang book



anyway, I just learned all of it sir nung nagka-nightmare po ako sa mga bakla just a year ago and I remember way back kapag nakakakita po ako ng bakla or tomboy nung bata pa ako I felt may mali sa kanila hindi ko lng ma figure out kung ano until my nightmare that's when I started to learn everything tungkol sa kanila na dapat nuon ko pa alam. Imagine how it made me look like.










: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 05, 2016, 05:17:13 AM
yung tungkol na pala sa GRID, long story short



yan talaga ang original na pangalan ng AIDS kaya magtataka kayo kung bakit unidentified ang patient-zero ng AIDS kasi hindi naman talaga yan ang totoong pangalan ng sakit na yanang nangyare lng is hinawaan lng nila yung mga babae pati na rin yung mga matinong lalake para kunware kahit sino pwede magkaron  kapag nakipag s** sa infected (which is common mode of transmission) pero hindi pa rin matatago ang totoo na sakit talaga yan ng mga nagbubuhay bakla. Lifestyle induced disease

Recently lng sa US, yung mga ogag nag dedemand na bigyan din sila ng karapatan na makapag donate ng dugo sa needy, which means magkakalat sila ng sakit nila of course kasama na ang AIDS.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 05, 2016, 05:22:44 AM
yung tungkol na pala sa GRID, long story short



yan talaga ang original na pangalan ng AIDS kaya magtataka kayo kung bakit unidentified ang patient-zero ng AIDS kasi hindi naman talaga yan ang totoong pangalan ng sakit na yanang nangyare lng is hinawaan lng nila yung mga babae pati na rin yung mga matinong lalake para kunware kahit sino pwede magkaron  kapag nakipag s** sa infected (which is common mode of transmission) pero hindi pa rin matatago ang totoo na sakit talaga yan ng mga nagbubuhay bakla. Lifestyle induced disease

Recently lng sa US, yung mga ogag nag dedemand na bigyan din sila ng karapatan na makapag donate ng dugo sa needy, which means magkakalat sila ng sakit nila of course kasama na ang AIDS.





eto po yun



https://www.facebook.com/116587365084888/photos/pb.116587365084888.-2207520000.1457173363./943940102349606/?type=3&theater
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: weng151515 March 05, 2016, 07:44:31 AM
so pati sa pag dodonate ng dugo nag hahanap sila ng Fair and Equality,...yesssss ganyan sila eh....

For me alng Opinyon ko po...ang pagiging isang LGBT gawa ng isang uri ng parasites, na nakakahawa..pumapasok sa utak at inaangkin ang buong pagkatao ng nakakakuha nito..bottomline, they are PARASITES...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: abdul jahkool March 05, 2016, 08:25:23 AM
Dear World,

Religion/LGBT is like a penis. It's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down my child's throat. Both of you fuck off.

Sincerely, tired of hearing your religious/LGBT guff
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 05, 2016, 10:23:15 AM
so pati sa pag dodonate ng dugo nag hahanap sila ng Fair and Equality,...yesssss ganyan sila eh....

For me alng Opinyon ko po...ang pagiging isang LGBT gawa ng isang uri ng parasites, na nakakahawa..pumapasok sa utak at inaangkin ang buong pagkatao ng nakakakuha nito..bottomline, they are PARASITES...



buti sana kung sila sila lng ang mag papasahan ng mga dugo nila eh, ang kaso gusto pa pasahan ng dugo nila yung mga matitinong tao, walang love dito puro kahayupan to


For me, its all mind games and trickery, inuuto nila yung mga matitinong tao para maging katulad din nila and sad to say, parami na ng parami mga nabibiktima ng ganito and hoping that we could set them free of bondage to sin.
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: naruto789544 March 05, 2016, 11:30:57 AM
and that is the sad part of reality... ever since society accepted them, many have come out of from their closet... and they are increasing in their numbers...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 05, 2016, 03:21:18 PM

O sayo na nanggaling ha....mali makipag relasyon sa bata...so ayaw mo maging legal yun di ba? E ung pakikipag relasyon sa kamag anak? Ayaw mo rin yun isalegal di ba? So bakit tama na isalegal ang pakikipag relasyon sa same sex? Kababuyan yun eh:

1 Corinthians 6:9

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality

Bottomline: this is a CHRISTIAN NATION and Homosexuality is ALSO strictly FORBIDDEN in ISLAM

so if you want to defile yourselves do it somewhere else. DO NOT MAKE KIDS THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NORMAL. Kababuyan yan eh.

I know I know...yeah..."EQUAL RIGHTS".....Just remember this...SATAN was the first to demand EQUAL RIGHTS.

BESIDES...GALING NA SAYO NA MINORITY KAYO...SO DON'T PUSH YOUR WEIGHT ON EVERYONE! GO TO THE U.S.THERE YOU CAN BE FREE

First off.. You are assuming too much. I'm straight and I just care for the oppressed. Assuming is the mother of all motherfathers. Second of all.. I'd acknowledge that this country is deeply Roman Catholic but we are DEFINITELY NOT A CHRISTIAN STATE. We are a SECULAR STATE who's government is supposed to NOT FAVOR ANY RELIGION nor STEP ON RELIGIOUS RIGHTS in order to protect EVERYONE ELSE. Religious or not.

Philippine Constitution 1987 (Article II, Section 6), and, No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

In short this country is supposed to be neutral to religion when it comes to policy making. Any laws made in favor of a religious position will be deemed UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Hence separation of church and state. Now if people will stop others from gaining rights, just because of their religious feelings then what does that equate to? Same shit.

Kaya nga nag rebolusyon mga pambansang bayani natin diba? Dahil sa pangingi-alam ng mga religioso (frayles) sa pangangasiwa.

You know what. Your analogy does NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. You keep on comparing relationships with minors/animals/relatives to homosexuality. Walang direktang relasyon ang mga yan sa isa't isa. Yes relationship with minors will have legal implications (child abuse) so does with animals (animal cruelty). O sige mag hanap ka ng illegal sa dalawang consenting adults engaging in a homosexual relationship mapa gay or lesbian man?

And in the end, what did you gave me? A BIBLE QUOTE? Para lang malait mo sila dahil punto de vista mo ay kababuyan yan? It does not hold anything substantial lalo na't kung ang religious belief ng taong kausap mo ay di sang ayon sayo o kung walang religion yan o ibang religion.


And to answer your question regarding relationships with relatives. Obvious naman ang sagot kung direct relative pero if your referring to cousin marriage I'm pretty much neutral to that dahil most of the world practices that.

So you say.. so if you want to defile yourselves do it somewhere else. DO NOT MAKE KIDS THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS NORMAL. Kababuyan yan eh.

You show care about the next generation. If your main objective to oppose Same sex marriage then, obviously it shows it does not directly affect you and you are just reaching out to others to go against it. So who's enforcing their point of views now? Who's pushing their weight against who?


Side note:

This is a battle between laws of men and religious dogma. In our setting, it is clear that there is no good reason for the government not to approve this right based on existing laws.

 "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's".
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: Zornhau March 05, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
Guys I think you need to fact check those links first -regarding GRID. Obviously the name was dropped dahil hindi accurate yung demarcation ng population ng sakit na yan dahil hindi limited ang HIV sa bakla. The virus can jump from species to species regardless kung babae ka o lalaki or homo.



salamat sa mga links bro sapat nayan para  magising sila sa katotohanan, ayaw ko na makipag argue tinatamad ako paulit ulit na arguments nalang gamit nila outdated cliche na sa sekularismo at separation of church and state, marami ring data na nagpapakita na masama ang naging dulot ng separation of church and state

Dude what do you think happened nung Espana at Simbahang Katolika pa ang namununo sa isla natin? Was it any worse after Mabini insisted the separation?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: chukino March 06, 2016, 01:10:06 AM
so pati sa pag dodonate ng dugo nag hahanap sila ng Fair and Equality,...yesssss ganyan sila eh....

For me alng Opinyon ko po...ang pagiging isang LGBT gawa ng isang uri ng parasites, na nakakahawa..pumapasok sa utak at inaangkin ang buong pagkatao ng nakakakuha nito..bottomline, they are PARASITES...

From scientific point of view hindi ito imposible, animal cloning, gmo, killer and illness-causing organisms/virus, lahat ng yan in existence na sa panahon natin ngayon. Mga Elitista na nag-aalala na mauubos na ang resources ng mundo kaya kailangan ng makontrol ang population pati ang sexual orientation ay namamanipula na rin habang nasa sinapupunan pa lang ang fetus. Mga food supplements at vitamins na iniinom ng mga sanggol at nanay na may mga halong chemical na nagbabago ng utak ng isang tao. Pati mga kinakain natin na karne at modified fish, cross-breed animals may mga chemical na rin tulad ng narumor dati na ang manok daw ay tinuturukan ng hormones na isa sa nagiging dahilan kung bakit dumadami ang mga homosexuals, malapit sa katotohanan ang mga ito lalo nakikita mo naman ang epekto nito sa mga tao.

Ano ang mangyayari sa populasyon pag maraming homosexual, nandyan pa pinagpipilitan nilang same sex marriage, lalake sa lalake at babae sa babae ang relasyon. Di ba mamiminimize ang pagmultiply ng mga tao sa mundo, tumatanda lang pero di na gaanong nadadagdagan ang populasyon, kaya ang tendency papaunti na rin ang consumers. Ang mga ganitong kaisipan ay iisa lang ang author, sya yung laging gustong sinasalungat ang  mga nakasulat sa bibliya-- na kalatan ng tao ang sanlibutan at magpakarami. Ipinagbabawal ang pakikipagrelasyon sa kaparehong kasarian pero siya naman yung nagkokontrol ng kaisipan ng mga gustong sumalungat din sa kasulatan at ipinaglalaban pa ang kanilang karapatan na sila ay kilalanin bilang ikatlong uri ng tao sa mundo.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 06, 2016, 05:06:58 AM
sir ngayun ko lng po nalaman yung tungkol sa manok kung bakit dumadami po ang mga bakla't tibo meron po ba kaung any source po nun? para ma share ko rin sa ibang like pages tungkol din po sa ganun







ang utos po ng Diyos na magpakarami ay para lamang po sa mga taong sumasadyos at  hindi sa mga masama at imoral, kung babalikan nyo po yung kwento ng Noah's ark ang laman po ng ark ay 8 tao at puro hayop na pairs(male/female) yung 8 tao na nasa ark ay sila lamang po ang naka survive sa great flood si Noah, wife nya at 3 anak na lalake na may mga asawa din kaya after ng flood since sila na lamang ang natira muling nag utos ang Diyos na sila'y humayo at magpakarami but this time sa kanila na po naka address dahil nung time na yun sila lamang ang mga matitinong tao na natira at pinili ng Diyos para muling magpakarami.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: chukino March 06, 2016, 07:53:37 AM
sir ngayun ko lng po nalaman yung tungkol sa manok kung bakit dumadami po ang mga bakla't tibo meron po ba kaung any source po nun? para ma share ko rin sa ibang like pages tungkol din po sa ganun







ang utos po ng Diyos na magpakarami ay para lamang po sa mga taong sumasadyos at  hindi sa mga masama at imoral, kung babalikan nyo po yung kwento ng Noah's ark ang laman po ng ark ay 8 tao at puro hayop na pairs(male/female) yung 8 tao na nasa ark ay sila lamang po ang naka survive sa great flood si Noah, wife nya at 3 anak na lalake na may mga asawa din kaya after ng flood since sila na lamang ang natira muling nag utos ang Diyos na sila'y humayo at magpakarami but this time sa kanila na po naka address dahil nung time na yun sila lamang ang mga matitinong tao na natira at pinili ng Diyos para muling magpakarami.

Actually yung tungkol sa pagkain ng manok=homosexuality ay nalaman ko lang din sa tumpok ng mga nag iinuman. So, to my curiosity I consulted Mr Google at eto yung articles na nakita ko:

http://www.theguardian.com/news/blog/2010/apr/22/chicken-causes-homosexuality-evo-morales

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/20/chicken-hormones-kids-gay-natalia-paris_n_2909135.html

Although, wala pa namang scientific studies na sumusuporta sa claims na ito, pero ano ang malay natin? There is so much confusion in our society today, kaya hindi na rin natin malaman ang totoo at hindi. Sa simpleng kape nga lang, may mga dalubhasa na nagsasabing masama ang kape lalo na sa may mga may migraine, pero may iilan din namang mga eksperto na nagpapatunay na mabuti ang kape. Pero sa experience ko na may migraine, kape mismo ang gamot ko sa migraine!

About naman sa utos na "go multiply and populate the earth, wala rin naman tayong mababasa sa Gen 1:28 at Gen 9:7 na mabubuti lang ang may karapatan na magparami at kumalat sa sanlibutan, dahil parte na ng creation yung liberty to choose between right and wrong, kaya by default lahat naman ng creation talaga ay mabuti until pumasok nga itong evil thoughts kaya nagkaroon ng masama. Kasi may masasama naman na sa kalaunan ay nagbabalik-loob. So, parang pag deprived naman sa isang masamang tao na manganak pa sila ng asawa nya, di naman garantiya na pag masama ang ama o ina ay awtomatikong masama na rin ang magiging mga anak, kung ganun mawawalang halaga ang free will natin, this disprove pre-destination. Take for example yung pananim, di naman tayo nagtatanim ng damo, pero pag nagtanin tayo ng palay laging may kasabay na damo pag tumutubo na. Ganyan lang din naman ang kalagayan nating mga tao, pinapayagan pa rin ng Maykapal na dumami rin ang mga masasama kasama ng mga mabubuti, dahil na rin sa plan of salvation para sa mga mananampalataya sa kanya. Kundi ganun, wala na sanang paghuhukom na darating sa mabubuti at masasama, kumbaga lahat ng tao ay ligtas na.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 March 06, 2016, 09:53:30 AM
nakaka amuse na mga sinasabi dito... anyway, the real issue here is simple...

male-female
female-male

that is all there is to it...

anything outside of this may be recognized by the state due to the status of their civil rights... they can even be wed in civil ceremonies if the civil law allows it... just don't insist on being married under the blessing of the church since that will be sooooo wrong....
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 07, 2016, 11:19:31 PM
Of course... civil wedding lang talaga ang dapat nilang hingin. The state cannot force a religious institution to do things against it's principles dahil state naman ang lalabag sa separation. Unless it's the religious institution ang nag offer na mag conduct ng same sex marriage.
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: evan-r91 March 08, 2016, 03:03:22 AM
so mas lalong pabor din sayo kung church na mismo ang nag ooffer ng SSM??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 08, 2016, 03:15:22 AM

Kaya nga nag rebolusyon mga pambansang bayani natin diba? Dahil sa pangingi-alam ng mga religioso (frayles) sa pangangasiwa.





kaya nag rebolusyon ang pambansang bayani natin ay dahil higit na mas naiintindihan nya ang buong bibliya kaya alam nyang mali at labag sa turo ng bibliya ang mga tinuturo ng mga pari nuon sa mga pilipino at dahil dyan pinapatay sya
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 March 08, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
so mas lalong pabor din sayo kung church na mismo ang nag ooffer ng SSM??

the church would never allow that...


kaya nag rebolusyon ang pambansang bayani natin ay dahil higit na mas naiintindihan nya ang buong bibliya kaya alam nyang mali at labag sa turo ng bibliya ang mga tinuturo ng mga pari nuon sa mga pilipino at dahil dyan pinapatay sya
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i will agree to this line... but the point of ssm is not one of the issues then when they revolted..
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 08, 2016, 10:45:06 PM




kaya nag rebolusyon ang pambansang bayani natin ay dahil higit na mas naiintindihan nya ang buong bibliya kaya alam nyang mali at labag sa turo ng bibliya ang mga tinuturo ng mga pari nuon sa mga pilipino at dahil dyan pinapatay sya

There's nothing wrong with your statement. I agree to that. Pero I fear you misunderstood the context of what you were quoting. O sadyang magulo lang ako magsalita. :p
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: Zornhau March 09, 2016, 10:10:59 PM
so mas lalong pabor din sayo kung church na mismo ang nag ooffer ng SSM??

I'm neutral to that. Do take note that there are churches out there that offer same sex marriage, and they must not be denied any right to conduct such.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 09, 2016, 11:08:49 PM
so bakit ka neutral?
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: Kingsman3.1416-0 March 09, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
so bakit ka neutral?

To me, neutrality seems to express: "Bahala sila sa buhay nila, wa' ako paki. Buhay nila yun."  laffman::
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 09, 2016, 11:35:09 PM
for sure meron syang ibang meaning nyan intayin natin hahaha
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 10, 2016, 11:44:57 PM
Hindi ko magets bakit kailangan mo tanongin yan. I thought it was pretty obvious na dun sa ni quote mo kung ano position ko but anyways.

Bakit ko oobligahin ang sarili ko na pumabor na mga religious institutions ang mag conduct ng marriages or pumabor sa pagbawalan sila. If they want to do it, let them. Kung ayaw nila mag kasal ng LGBT, let them be.

What's the point of fighting for equality kung sa bandang huli aapakan mo yung iba habang inaangat ang isa.


_______________________________________________________________________________

Maidagdag lang.. Mayroon palang local Christian church na nag re-recognize ng unions ng LGBT. Not sure how it works though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churches#Philippines
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 11, 2016, 01:25:15 AM
from what I know being neutral means "you are in a shade between black and white". It means you cannot determine what is black and what is white. You don't know the difference of right and wrong. So kahit alam mong masama sige kapa rin?? Ganyan ba ang equality sayo?? O baka hindi mo pa rin alam kung gaano kasama ang epekto ng kanilang so-called "homosexuality"??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 March 11, 2016, 11:13:11 AM
yup... heard it also... the jesus of the latter day saints and community of christ recognizes at some points marriage towards lgbts...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 11, 2016, 02:18:34 PM
yup... heard it also... the jesus of the latter day saints and community of christ recognizes at some points marriage towards lgbts...



dyos-dyosan lng sinasamba nila kasi yung tunay na dyos hindi naman yun nagbabago at lalong hindi yun nagsisinungaling............parang demonyo lng yang lgbt naghahanap ng karamay sa hatol kasi diba si satanas hinatulan na nung una pa lng kaya naghahanap na lng yan ng kasama pero ang mga tao wala pa kaya habang buhay pa sila pwede pa magsisi kasi kung patay ka na kahit anong gawin mo wala ka na pag asa, 2 na lng ang pwede mong tuluyan
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 12, 2016, 03:08:54 PM
from what I know being neutral means "you are in a shade between black and white". It means you cannot determine what is black and what is white. You don't know the difference of right and wrong. So kahit alam mong masama sige kapa rin?? Ganyan ba ang equality sayo?? O baka hindi mo pa rin alam kung gaano kasama ang epekto ng kanilang so-called "homosexuality"??


(http://postimg.org/image/412k8i8nr/)

The word does not necessarily pertain to morality. You asked me if I'm pro for religious institutions to conduct same sex marriage or not I told you I did not chose to pick any of the two choices. That's it. Yun lang yun.

You focus too much on morality. The thing is, not all people will agree to YOUR CONCEPT of morality and not all will care about your point of views regarding morality. Especially kung wala namang nalalabag sa batas ng tao ang activities ng mga ni criticize mo. Keep it to yourself. Don't pust it at other's faces. If you think they're going to hell, let them be. Let them do what they want, it's their choice and they did not chose to be like that as science has proven. They have their own minds and it is not your responsibility to herd people to what you or your preacher wants.

So don't be a hero and save yourself first. The more you intrude and offend other people for their lifestyle, the more likely you are going to sin against them anyways.

O baka hindi mo pa rin alam kung gaano kasama ang epekto ng kanilang so-called "homosexuality"?? - What are you referring to? Negative health effects? If yes, then it only means we need to help them more get over the health issues. Negative effects on ones personality or choices? Unahan na kita kung yan ang tinutukoy mo. That's pure BS unless a major study could find such results and it is replicated.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 13, 2016, 11:31:40 AM
So BS pala ang mga ebidensya na masama ang homosexuality pati na rin yung yung mga taong tinatawag na ex-G's and L's?? Sige maglabas ka ng mga ebidensya mo dito at patunayan mo na "BS" pala na masama yun. Mukang may alam ka rin eh.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 13, 2016, 06:13:59 PM
While I do not have any means to provide you proof kung nagiging masamang tao nga ba ang mga LGBT people because of their sexuality dahil hindi naman ako Psychologist or scientist sa ganyang field para mag bigay ng data (I am assuming when you said na may masamang epekto ang homosexualidad, you meant moral issues). At least I know some of them, I have friends and family members na LGBT. They do not break laws nor offend people.

Morally fit for our society. Did their sexual orientation served as a hindrance for them to be good citizens? No. That's what I see.

Science has shown that more evidence is showing up that homosexuality is not a choice and forcing them to be heterosexual will have a backlash on them (mentally). So are you still going to tell me that they are still doomed to be bad people? How about checking crime rates? Sila ba ang madalas na involved? Of course not.

So you're asking for proofs. Malamang dahil nasa internet tayo links lang to sa mga articles. Kung links lang din then go for reputable websites like livescience or iflscience who have real professionals working on their sites to do fact checking. Before you post your anti-LGBT links please take it with a grain of salt.

Fere are some good to read links for you.

http://www.livescience.com/13409-myths-gay-people-debunked-sexual-orientation.html
http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html
http://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/tackling-stigma-and-myths-around-sexuality

Also.. Since you are asking for proof. Eh ikaw ang may claim na may masamang effect. The BURDEN OF PROOF LIES WITH YOU dahil ikaw ang may claim. You want me to believe? Conduct your own study. Give us the numbers, the statistics and data. Tell us who you are working with and they must be of reputable image within the scientific community. Not only you have to prove it to me, but also to the whole world dahil LGBT is worldwide.

Posting your google links vs my google links ain't gonna' be enough.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: dweizz March 13, 2016, 10:23:26 PM
honestly kaya hindi ko marespeto minsan religion kasi sa mga taong tulad nito... yung expect nila na i-respeto religion nila pero hindi nila kaya i respeto mga nasa labas ng religion nila...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 13, 2016, 11:11:00 PM
Teka, hindi ko responsibilidad kung maniwala ka sakin o hindi at wala akong sinasabing gusto ko maniwala ka sakin nagbgay lng ako dito ng iilang links na nagsasabi ng totoo pero para maniwala ka sakin o hindi, bahala ka sa buhay mo dahil ang akin lng hindi ko matiis na may mga taong naloloko.


eto baka dito ka makakita ng mga hinahanap mo http://americansfortruth.com/  ikutin mo lng yang website na yan makakahanap ka rin ng hinahanap mo. Baka naman sabihin mo pang BS yan eh wag ka sakin magreklamo hanapin mo si Peter LaBarbera dahil sya ang founder ng organization na yan
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 15, 2016, 04:38:20 AM
So after saying all of those anti LGBT statements you insisted here, you ain't gonna' back it up and take responsibility to prove it? Tapos biglang bahala kayo sa buhay nyo? mmmmm..... OK. Kami na naloloko


So Peter La Barbera is your source of knowledge...
Did a bit of background check about Mr. La Barbera and found this wikipedia page about him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_LaBarbera

Peter LaBarbera (born 1963) is an American social conservative activist and the president of the anti-gay organization Americans for Truth about Homosexuality (AFTAH).

LaBarbera has been criticised for spreading hate speech and misinformation about homosexuality, with AFTAH being designated as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for spreading "hateful propaganda".
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 15, 2016, 11:18:02 PM
so wikipedia lng pala source mo, ang wikipedia madaling i-edit ng sinoman kaya hindi rerliable source ang wiki. ang tanong naikot mo na ba yung website at nabusisi mo na ba yung credibility ng mga resources nila??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 15, 2016, 11:28:57 PM
Saka mag back read ka, tingnan mo dalawa kami dito nagsasabing sakit sa utak ang pagiging ganun at walang kinalaman ang biology dito tapos ang sabi ko lng masama ang epekto ng ganun sa isang tao pero bakit ako lng ang gusto mong magpatunay sayo nyan??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 17, 2016, 02:51:00 AM
Wikipedia lang ang source ko? Looks like you didn't bother reading what I gave you on my previous posts. Sige post ko uli ang link hah?

http://www.livescience.com/50058-being-gay-not-a-choice.html
http://www.livescience.com/13409-myths-gay-people-debunked-sexual-orientation.html

Yan. See that? Read it and see how it directly contradicts Labarbera's point of views about converting homosexuals to ex-gays. Resulting into misinformation since homosexuality to begin with is not a choice. It is normal. Even animals exhibit this.

So yeah everyone can edit a wikipedia article, while at the same time people can make grandiose claims tapos hindi pinapatunayan. Atleast I would give credit to the wikipedia editors atleast sila, yung nilagay nila has basis dahil totoo naman na may mga claims si Labarbera na malayo sa Sciencia.

Then you would say, walang kinalaman ang biology at sakit ito sa utak? Kaya kita hinihingian ng ebidensya e. Mga claims mo eh. The current scientific consensus about homosexuality is normal lang siya tapos ikaw biglang sakit sa utak ang pananaw??

At ano nga ba yang masamang epekto na yan na tinutukoy mo? Malamang ikaw tatanongin ko na magpatunay, ikaw ang kausap ko at ikaw ang nagiinsist.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 17, 2016, 05:37:37 AM
tingnan mo dun sa previous post ko ung may link dun mo makikita na sakit sa utak yun.





gusto mo talaga ng ebidensya kung ano ba talaga ang pinakasimpleng paliwanag dyan ha?? use your Very own COMMON SENSE malalaman mo sagot. at eto pa, no political law could ever change human MORALITY, FREEDOM, even CONSCIENCE dahil ang political law malamang tao ang gumawa nyan pero yang tatlong yan, hidni yan ginawa ng tao, embedded na yan sa mismong tao. Common sense mo na lng gamitin mo malalaman mo sagot hindi mo na kailangan ng ebidensya dyan dahil yan na ang mismong ebidensya.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 18, 2016, 02:39:26 AM
It's either you did not read my last post well or you did not understand when I said "The current scientific consensus about homosexuality is normal" condition lang siya. I don't need to read off of a link that totally disagrees with it. Because siguradong misinformation yan kung salungat siya.

So di ko pala nagagamit ang common sense ko. Morality is unchangeable daw.

Morality is something culturally defined as with the terms "normal and standards". What's right to you maybe wrong to others. You want to claim your brand of religious morality as universal? You can start with proving God's existence. Scientifically.

No political law could change freedom? WTF.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 18, 2016, 04:38:09 AM
kung basehan mo ay hayop malamang normal lng talga yun sa hayop pero COMMON SENSE, malayo ang kinaibahan ng hayop sa tao kaya ang normal sa hayop hindi normal sa tao hindi mo ba alam yan?? O baka nag aasal hayop ka lng??



O kaya ganito na lng para matahimik ka na lng, try mo kahit 1 taon lng, try mo lng maging katulad nila then give us your feedback how is to be in that kind of lifestyle and then tell us kung normal lng ba talaga yan or if this is morally right.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 19, 2016, 04:48:12 AM
kung basehan mo ay hayop malamang normal lng talga yun sa hayop pero COMMON SENSE, malayo ang kinaibahan ng hayop sa tao kaya ang normal sa hayop hindi normal sa tao hindi mo ba alam yan?? O baka nag aasal hayop ka lng??



Bagsak nanaman ako sa common sense?  ::laffman

They say we evolved from primates. Now, are we that special? Ganon parin ba tayo kalayo? O masyadong mataas na ang tingin ng mga tao sa sarili nila?


O kaya ganito na lng para matahimik ka na lng, try mo kahit 1 taon lng, try mo lng maging katulad nila then give us your feedback how is to be in that kind of lifestyle and then tell us kung normal lng ba talaga yan or if this is morally right.

Preposterous.
Homosexuality is not a choice as experts had found out. You cannot force a heterosexual nor be homosexual. Trying to, will only cause damage.

http://www.livescience.com/37139-facts-about-gay-conversion-therapy.html
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 19, 2016, 06:04:01 AM
They say we evolved from primates. Now, are we that special? Ganon parin ba tayo kalayo? O masyadong mataas na ang tingin ng mga tao sa sarili nila?


O talaga? kung galing tayo sa unggoy eh di dapat lahat ng unggoy nawala na at naging tao na. Eh bakit may mga unggoy pa rin??


Bagsak nanaman ako sa common sense?

ikaw lng nagsabi nyan hindi ako.


Eh kung ganon lng pala eh di ibig mo sabihin hoax lng yung kwento ni tonnettte macho saka yung mga ibang nagbabago at nagkakapamilya na?? yung nagbago yun eh at higit na mas matino na buihay nila ngayun kesa nung dati. O baka naman SATANISTA ka at sadyang matigas ulo mo??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 19, 2016, 11:02:35 PM
So who told you na nanggaling tayo sa mga unggoy specifically? We had a common primate ancestor (a hominid) with monkeys. Your question is flawed. Evolution does not work that way. Hindi porque nag evolve and isang member ng species ay mag eevolve na ang entire species. There's no reason for monkeys not to exist.

It's 2016. Are we still believing in FUNDAMENTALIST Creationsim?

I have no idea who Tonette Macho is but I found this interview video and I think it pretty much shows na technically homosexual parin siya.

"Kung nandoon yes tukso, yes nadyaan parin. Nandyaan parin. Kung may nakita ako'ng guwapo. Guwapo."
- Bro. Anthony Roquel.

I respect his willpower to abstain from his bodily desires. But this does not equate into a homosexual turning heterosexual dahil sexually attracted parin.

Besides, eh ano naman kung may asawa at anak siya? Si Ogie Diaz nga ladlad pero may asawa't anak.

ikaw lng nagsabi nyan hindi ako.

Pagkatapos mo maka-gamit ng COMMON SENSE na word todo caps lock pa ng sobra sobra as if ikaw lang ang mayroon nyan you're going to tell me that? Muy condescendiente eres.


Eh kung Satanista nga ako? Ano gagawin mo kung religion ko yan?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 20, 2016, 01:39:01 AM
Forgot to add the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RAhO3rrj4w

Somewhere around 3:15 - onwards
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 20, 2016, 07:48:40 AM
so ano ngayong kung 2016 na?? ano ba nagbago?? Eh ang evolution nga theory pa hanggang ngayon wala pa makapagpatunay na totoo nga ang evolution hindi nga nagbabago tapos idadahilan mo sakin ngayon na 2016 na?? Eh ano ngayon kung 2016 na nga?? eh taon lng naman ang nagbabago



Napapapaghalataan lng naman kitang satanista ka kasi ganyan na ganyan sila magdahilan. Mas mabuti pa kausap ang bata hindi man nila alam ang salitang MORAL pero higit naman na mas marami silang ganyan.


Pagkatapos mo maka-gamit ng COMMON SENSE na word todo caps lock pa ng sobra sobra as if ikaw lang ang mayroon nyan you're going to tell me that? Muy condescendiente eres.




Ikaw lng din ang nagsabing ako lng ang may ganyan hindi ako. Bakit? Nasasaktan kaba sa mga sinabi ko??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 20, 2016, 08:48:31 AM
We had a common primate ancestor (a hominid) with monkeys

sigurado ka? tingnan mo nga ang family lineage ng nanay at tatay mo tingnan mo sa kanila kung sino sa kanila at saang generation ang may trace ng nabuntis na primate o kaya nakabuntis ng primate at nanganak ng tao bago makarating sa generation mo??


kung wala sayo trace mo naman sa mga kaibigan mong "LGBT" kung meron sa kanilang trace ng primate sa pamilya nila
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 20, 2016, 09:34:44 AM
so ano ngayong kung 2016 na?? ano ba nagbago?? Eh ang evolution nga theory pa hanggang ngayon wala pa makapagpatunay na totoo nga ang evolution hindi nga nagbabago tapos idadahilan mo sakin ngayon na 2016 na?? Eh ano ngayon kung 2016 na nga?? eh taon lng naman ang nagbabago

Obviously you do not understand the word theory when used by scientists. So yeah it is a theory, but you do not understand the gravity of the word. It's doesn't mean the same with the everyday word "theory".

Napapapaghalataan lng naman kitang satanista ka kasi ganyan na ganyan sila magdahilan. Mas mabuti pa kausap ang bata hindi man nila alam ang salitang MORAL pero higit naman na mas marami silang ganyan.

I'm theistic agnostic. Sorry, I just wanted to see how you'll respond if sabihin ko na Satanist ako. Funny, when you try to promote science and reason you could get branded as a Satanist and lacking of morals.

Ikaw lng din ang nagsabing ako lng ang may ganyan hindi ako. Bakit? Nasasaktan kaba sa mga sinabi ko??


I love the part na ang taas ng dating mo sabay tanong ng "Bakit? Nasasaktan kaba sa mga sinabi ko??" Get off of your high horse. Masyado mo'ng binobola sarili mo.

You want me to be blunt? I find your argument weak/inferior and full of misinformation. Your posts lack useful content/information for your cause and at the same time you tend to ignore or maybe even intentionally avoiding my rebuttals when you can't defend against it. (So ako naman ang mukhang mayabang ngayon)

But of course, you can always prove me wrong.  bnana


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sigurado ka? tingnan mo nga ang family lineage ng nanay at tatay mo tingnan mo sa kanila kung sino sa kanila at saang generation ang may trace ng nabuntis na primate o kaya nakabuntis ng primate at nanganak ng tao bago makarating sa generation mo??


kung wala sayo trace mo naman sa mga kaibigan mong "LGBT" kung meron sa kanilang trace ng primate sa pamilya nila

Humans and Chimps share 98% DNA/96% genes. Fairly sufficient proof from scientists.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/08/0831_050831_chimp_genes.html
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 20, 2016, 10:55:43 AM
You want me to be blunt? I find your argument weak/inferior and full of misinformation.


alin sa mga sinabi ko ang misinformation?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 20, 2016, 11:27:03 AM
backread
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 20, 2016, 01:11:47 PM
so bakit misinformation ang mga sinabi ko? give me details PLEASE.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium March 20, 2016, 01:22:00 PM
tinatamad ako mag backread pero talo si zornhau panalo si evan
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 20, 2016, 03:36:20 PM
so bakit misinformation ang mga sinabi ko? give me details PLEASE.
Really? Feeling ko ni hindi mo inattempt na i-absorb ang discussion. I'll spoon feed one.
- homosexuality as a mental illness.

tinatamad ako mag backread pero talo si zornhau panalo si evan

Go home lawrencium. You're drunk.

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Here's some good to know stuff.
http://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_mental_health.html
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: BoyDapa March 20, 2016, 10:25:27 PM
Masakit talaga ang katotohanan hehe..Dito kaya kaya may mga jokla chuvanes har har
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 21, 2016, 10:06:37 AM
Really? Feeling ko ni hindi mo inattempt na i-absorb ang discussion. I'll spoon feed one.
- homosexuality as a mental illness.

anong misinformation dyan?



And why should I waste my time on you? Lalo na kung yung mga nalaman ko ay makatotohanan naman at hindi censored ang mga pinaggalingan ng conclusion nila at sobra namang reasonable at logical? Eh halata namang nagpupumilit ka lng na ipagdikdikan sa mga utak namin dito na normal lng yang pinaniniwalaan mo eh. Kapag napatunayan mo na LAHAT ng mga pinagsasasabi mo dito ay tama at makatotohanan at mali yung sa akin, pangako ko sayo IPAPAPUTOL KO MAGKABILANG KAMAY KO kapag lahat yan may pinaggalingan at may matinong basis.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 21, 2016, 10:11:26 AM
Masakit talaga ang katotohanan hehe..Dito kaya kaya may mga jokla chuvanes har har



hindi na importante yan isipin mo na lng lalake at babae pa rin sila kahit balibariktarin mo pa yan tsaka sampal sa pagkatao talaga ang makatuklas ng katotohanan pero later on higit na may mas maganda naman kapalit yan magtyaga ka lng
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 March 21, 2016, 02:06:15 PM
Masakit talaga ang katotohanan hehe..Dito kaya kaya may mga jokla chuvanes har har

hehehe.. agree.. mga pasimple lang pero you will notice the way they comment...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 21, 2016, 02:34:45 PM
hehehe.. agree.. mga pasimple lang pero you will notice the way they comment...



langya yung sinabihan nya ng lasing yun nga yung unang nagsabing sakit yun sa utak eh, binackupan ko lng pero hindi nya pinuruhan hahahahaha
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium March 21, 2016, 02:43:00 PM
sakit naman talaga sa utak ang kabaklaan eh, sexual deviation yan.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 21, 2016, 03:43:57 PM
matagal ko na alam na sakit talaga yan ngayon ko lng nalaman na sexual deviation yun kaya nga nagtaka ako kung bakit ako lng yung pinuruhan halatang may maitim na balak eh
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 22, 2016, 03:49:08 AM
anong misinformation dyan?



And why should I waste my time on you? Lalo na kung yung mga nalaman ko ay makatotohanan naman at hindi censored ang mga pinaggalingan ng conclusion nila at sobra namang reasonable at logical? Eh halata namang nagpupumilit ka lng na ipagdikdikan sa mga utak namin dito na normal lng yang pinaniniwalaan mo eh. Kapag napatunayan mo na LAHAT ng mga pinagsasasabi mo dito ay tama at makatotohanan at mali yung sa akin, pangako ko sayo IPAPAPUTOL KO MAGKABILANG KAMAY KO kapag lahat yan may pinaggalingan at may matinong basis.


Waste my time on me? Ikaw yung unang nagquote sakin at umatake ng umatake with your Bible thumping immoral ako at moralist ka attitude. Ano expect mo di ako magrereply? Kaya wag ka mag reklamo kung sayo ko binanat dahil ikaw yung sagot ng sagot sakin.

Reason and logic has nothing to do with your posts. Wag mo bolahin sarili mo. Pinapabango mo lang yang mga posts mo using those words pero wala namang laman.

You want me to show you where you lost it? Pansin ko nga ni hindi mo na sinagot ang mga ito.

1. I caught you red handed na hindi mo nauunawaan ang human evolution and you even used your misconceptions about it to bolster your claim. You insisted na dapat walang monkeys kung ganon samantalang evolution and mutation does not happen sabay sabay on the same members of a specie. So obviously mali ka doon lalo na't nadiskubre rin ng mga Geneticists na 98% ng human DNA ay parehas sa mga Chimpanzees and some 90% on monkeys which only means malayong pinsan mo ang mga matsing. You want basis for this? Magbasa ka ng Biology book makikita mo yan. Basis 1

2. Ininsist mo yung ex gays mo and even brought up Tonette Macho as an example samantalang sa interview na mismo niya nanggaling na natutukso parin siya which is an indication na hindi siya straight and the only thing he is doing is abstaining. You even brought up gays having families. Ang dami ring bakla dyan na nagka asawa at anak na babae and the fact na ganun si Ogie Diaz na isang baklang may pamilya does not help your cause. Dagdag ko pa na mga LEGITIMATE Science websites ang ni post ko na nagsasabing homosexuality is not a choice so ibig sabihin malabo yang ex gays mo. Basis 2

3. You insisted as well na sakit sa utak ang homosexuality. I have posted legitimate science websites and links showing you myths about homosexuality to show you that modern scientists today no longer consider homosexuality as a mental illness dahil to begin with wala naman talagang empirical evidence para sabihing sakit siya. Ni wala ngang makapag turo kung virus ba or pathogens ang cause or mental issues dahil sa trauma, upbringing o anoman para i classify ito as an illness. Napagkamalan lang talagang sakit yan dahil hindi nauunawaan ng mga tao bakit may mga nagiging ganoon. You want real proof? Go read the studies of REAL EXPERTS like DR. SIGMUND FREUD and Human sexuality expert DR. ALFRED KINSEY regarding homosexuality. Their findings were crucial to why majority of the members of APA favored dropping homosexuality as an illness. Hindi yung binabasa mo puro mga websites na questionable ang source at mga websites ng mga HATE GROUPS na katulad ng AFTAH na pinamumunuan ni "PORNO PETE" Peter LaBarbera who has shit for credibility when it comes to homosexuality dahil sa extreme right wing views nila. Heh, even the WHO or World Health Organization dropped homosexuality as an illness due to lack of empirical evidence on the 90's. Basis 3

Lahat naman ng sinabi ko may basehan na links from LEGITIMATE SCIENCE BASED WEBSITES either hindi mo lang talaga inintindi o binasa yung mga binigay ko. But don't cut off your hands please.

So ngayon nag rereklamo ka na ipinagdidikdikan ko ang tunay na Science sa issue na to at hindi mo masagot? That's you (religious fundamentalists/extremists) having a taste of your own medicine. It was your kind that shoved your own version of morality into others first kasi feeling nyo hindi pasok sa standards nyo ginagawa ng ibang tao kaya kailangan nila sumunod sayo. Demanding din kayo eh? You showed the same attitude about homosexuality Infact countless homosexuals died and got imprisoned for just being homosexual back then just because of religious standards.


sakit naman talaga sa utak ang kabaklaan eh, sexual deviation yan.

Nakagamit lang ng fancy words sakit na kaagad. :P

matagal ko na alam na sakit talaga yan ngayon ko lng nalaman na sexual deviation yun kaya nga nagtaka ako kung bakit ako lng yung pinuruhan halatang may maitim na balak eh

Ako pa maitim ang balak ikaw to'ng unang nag quote at nag challenge sakin, si Senjuu kausap ko eh. NAPASUBO ka lang at di mo inasahan binangga mo. Now suck it like Stoya!  ::laffman
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Fun fact. You won't be enjoying your computers and mobile phones today if it wasn't for Alan Turing. Someone who was not accepted by his own people by just being himself.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 22, 2016, 07:10:28 AM
And why such websites like AFTAH are called "HATE GROUPS"?? kasi sa nakita ko, yung mga sources ng AFTAH kung pagsasamahin mo lahat bumabagsak sa isang source din nila at yung source nila na yun never nagkamali, precise and accurate lahat ng nakalagay dun sa iisang source na sinasabi ko, matatag na ebidensya yan.

At bakit tinanggal sa DSM-2 ng APA ang same-sex attraction disorder? meron ba silang mga scientific studies nyan na nagpatunay na hindi yun mental disorder at kinakailangan tanggalin sa DSM-2??
 
malabo ang mga ex-gays sources ko? baka gusto mo sanang i-google muna lahat ng testimonials ng ex-gays hindi lng dito sa pilipinas marami pa nyan sa north and south america, si tonnette macho kabilang lng sya sa kanila and most of them................................mamaya ko na lng sasabihin 


FYI, nakita ko na rin dati pa yung mga links na sinasabi mo sa akin kaso hindi ako kuntento sa mga nakalagay, parang may mali


just get it straight na lng kasi sa mga sagot, bawal pikon................nagtatanong lng naman ako ng maayos eh, malamang nanghihingi lng ako ng sagot sayo.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 27, 2016, 12:30:59 AM

And why such websites like AFTAH are called "HATE GROUPS"?? kasi sa nakita ko, yung mga sources ng AFTAH kung pagsasamahin mo lahat bumabagsak sa isang source din nila at yung source nila na yun never nagkamali, precise and accurate lahat ng nakalagay dun sa iisang source na sinasabi ko, matatag na ebidensya yan.

Malice, misinformation, bigotry. Twisting facts for their own belief, claiming syphilis as a new gay disease so people would fear them. Supporting Uganda's anti gay law dubbed as "kill the gays" law. etc

At bakit tinanggal sa DSM-2 ng APA ang same-sex attraction disorder? meron ba silang mga scientific studies nyan na nagpatunay na hindi yun mental disorder at kinakailangan tanggalin sa DSM-2??

Who do you think removed it from the DSMs if not majority of APA? Who are all scientists specializing on the issue. Do you think they can make such a big move without basis?

Why would you think it is the pro homosexuals who need to prove homosexuality is not a disease? When it is the other way around. It is those who claim it as a disease who need to prove it. Up until this day no empirical evidence has been presented to maintain homosexuality as a mental disorder.

There is no need to maintain it as a mental disorder. For one, it does not possess qualities of a mental disorder.

Homosexuality does not present a clear threat to oneself and people around them. It does not cause suffering nor impairment to the homosexual and they can function normally on their daily lives. All of the disorders in the DSMs do not have these characteristics. Therefore no need to consider it as a disorder nor maintain it in the lists of the DSMs.
 

malabo ang mga ex-gays sources ko? baka gusto mo sanang i-google muna lahat ng testimonials ng ex-gays hindi lng dito sa pilipinas marami pa nyan sa north and south america, si tonnette macho kabilang lng sya sa kanila and most of them................................mamaya ko na lng sasabihin 

And before you start posting stuff. Intindihin mo muna yung previous posts ko. You obviously do not understand my previous posts. Paulit ulit ka na.


FYI, nakita ko na rin dati pa yung mga links na sinasabi mo sa akin kaso hindi ako kuntento sa mga nakalagay, parang may mali

A clear indication of bias. You'd rather believe everything Peter LaBarbera says who does not have the support of the scientific community and intellectuals then you would question scientific facts provided by the scientific community that does not agree with your views. If you think scientists are incorrect with indicating that homosexuality isn't normal then go argue with them.

just get it straight na lng kasi sa mga sagot, bawal pikon................nagtatanong lng naman ako ng maayos eh, malamang nanghihingi lng ako ng sagot sayo.

Me pikon? I'm all laughs here.  ::laffman
Nagtatanong ka lang ng maayos? Your bigotry and condemnation showed during the discussion. Branding me satanist and immoral etc. Reviewing your own posts will contradict you.

The only negativity I have here is nakakapagod ka kausap lalo na't I'm working a 10 hour job. Paulit ulit hindi naiintindihan posts ko. I feel like I'm teaching you for free and you do not even give an effort to understand my posts then people are suspecting me of being a homosexual when I'm not. Nagkataon lang na ayaw ko na kumakalat ang misinformation.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 27, 2016, 06:09:43 AM
kalokohan mo.......ang sabihin mo kamo nakakita ka lng dun ng maraming BIBLICAL SOURCES. tama ako o mali??
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 27, 2016, 06:21:42 AM
ang totoo kasi nyan, wala akong pakialam sa mga pinagsasasbi mo at sa nararamdaman mo.......impormasyon lng kailangan ko sayo but then pinapaikot mo lng ako sa mga sources na gusto mo lng ipakita sakin at gusto mong ipapaniwala sakin so, useless.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau March 29, 2016, 04:09:10 AM
kalokohan mo.......ang sabihin mo kamo nakakita ka lng dun ng maraming BIBLICAL SOURCES. tama ako o mali??

Nope. Don't give a frakk about them Bible quotes. Health and science kuno section is my personal favorite. It's like misinformation.. Misinformation everywhere!  ::laffman

ang totoo kasi nyan, wala akong pakialam sa mga pinagsasasbi mo at sa nararamdaman mo.......impormasyon lng kailangan ko sayo but then pinapaikot mo lng ako sa mga sources na gusto mo lng ipakita sakin at gusto mong ipapaniwala sakin so, useless.

Wait whuut? Wala ka pakialam sa sinasabi ko pero kailangan mo ng impormasyon galing sakin?  o_____O
Parang may mali ah.

So ako pa pala ang nagpapaikot ikot samantalang ako to'ng spoonfeed ng spoonfeed ng information at dagdag ng dagdag ng detalye habang lahat iniiwasan mo.

Ipapaniwala sayo? No sir. Convincing you is not my objective. Exposing your mistake is my objective. There's no point in convincing someone who has blind faith to Saint Peter LaBarbero lalo na't well indoctrinated to bigotry and takes everything fundamentalists say for granted.

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The only way for me is to stand up to their bigotry and misinformation; to shake their blind faith so the cracks will show. That way truth can seep in.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 March 29, 2016, 07:13:52 AM
Para masabi mong misinformed sila dapat alam mong mali LAHAT ng mga sources nila, and that includes the bible itself. Alam mo dapat ang kabuuan ng bibliya para masbi mong misinformed yung website dahil kasama yan sa mga sources nila.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 April 09, 2016, 11:59:32 AM
O? bakit bigla ka yata nanahimik nung sinabi ko lng na dapat alam mo buong bibliya para mapatunayang mali? Tindi rin ng apog mo eh noh
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium April 09, 2016, 12:01:49 PM
talo na si zornhau ::laffman
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 April 09, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
ewan ko ba dyan sabi nya THEISTIC AGNOSTIC daw sya aalamin ko rin nga kung totoo yun eh.............
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau April 10, 2016, 07:19:40 AM
O? bakit bigla ka yata nanahimik nung sinabi ko lng na dapat alam mo buong bibliya para mapatunayang mali? Tindi rin ng apog mo eh noh

Do you know why I didn't bother replying? It's a non sense post that I find no good reason to reply to. Sige nga how can you relate your previous posts to Labarbera's claims like Homosexuality is more dangerous than cigarettes? How can you use the Bible to justify his claims like HIV is a gay disease when it is clear that the virus can jump to any human regardless of gender?

Tindi rin ng apog ko? Resorting to personal attacks again?

And oh.. I saw ni-edit mo yung last post mo na di ko nireply-an. Would have been much more fun if you did not edit it.

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: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium April 10, 2016, 07:45:15 AM
zornhau kumalma ka lang umiiyak ka na e
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau April 10, 2016, 07:51:01 AM
zornhau kumalma ka lang umiiyak ka na e

Me iiyakan yang 1960s full of misconceptions na paniniwala ninyo? Baka nga maiyak ako out of pity. But you gotta' try harder kung gusto mo ko mainsulto.  ::laffman
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: lawrencium April 10, 2016, 07:54:23 AM
Me iiyakan yang 1960s full of misconceptions na paniniwala ninyo? Baka nga maiyak ako out of pity. But you gotta' try harder kung gusto mo ko mainsulto.  ::laffman

isaid calm down, masyado kang agitated eh, kinakausap ka lang, im not even trying
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 April 10, 2016, 09:26:30 AM
Ang tanong ko, paanong naging FULL OF MISINFORMATION yung laman ng site?? dapat alam mong mali lahat ng sources to have such conclusion na FULL OF MISINFORMATION. Alam mo ba talaga mga pinagsasasabi mo?? It shows that you're a liar trying hard to be honest, walang laman mga pinag ttype mo kundi puro pasaring







@lawrencium- naikot mo na ba yung website?
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 April 10, 2016, 09:35:10 AM
seems like mukang pinapatotoo mo yung pantasya mo ah........let me ask you, paano nilalang yung ape/monkey/gorilla/etc. na pinagmulan ng evolution?? at kung kamag-anak man ng tao ang ape sino ang mga kilala mo o kaya sikat na tao na pumatol at pinatulan ng ape??

@lawrencium- sayo rin ba meron?? sakin alam ko wala eh puro man & woman lng na nagmahalan at nagkasarapan at nabuntis hanggang makarating sakin





: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: Zornhau April 10, 2016, 09:54:46 PM
Ang tanong ko, paanong naging FULL OF MISINFORMATION yung laman ng site?? dapat alam mong mali lahat ng sources to have such conclusion na FULL OF MISINFORMATION. Alam mo ba talaga mga pinagsasasabi mo?? It shows that you're a liar trying hard to be honest, walang laman mga pinag ttype mo kundi puro pasaring


Do you even understand that line in UPPER CASE na tinutukoy mo? It does not necessarily mean lahat. It may also mean:

5. Having a great deal or many: a book full of errors.

Source: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/full

I have already given 2 examples from the health and science kuno section of their site from my previous posts. Dagdag mo pa na propaganda website yan na willing mag twist ng information to mislead people. The fact na nagpopost sila ng intentionally misleading articles is good enough to indicate these people are up to no good.

Dagdag mo pa yung claims nila na homosexuality can be cured when there is no such approved scientific method.

seems like mukang pinapatotoo mo yung pantasya mo ah........let me ask you, paano nilalang yung ape/monkey/gorilla/etc. na pinagmulan ng evolution?? at kung kamag-anak man ng tao ang ape sino ang mga kilala mo o kaya sikat na tao na pumatol at pinatulan ng ape??

Do yourself a favor. Go read a frakking Biology book or google articles about human evolution tutal libre naman yan at unawain mo muna yang binabanatan mo bago ka bumanat. Obviously di mo nauunawaan ang evolution base sa rebuttal mo.

Ano akala mo sa evolution? Ang lolo isda? nanganak ng gorilla tapos anak ng gorilla tao? Evolution doesn't happen overnight!

Mabuti pa mga 2nd year HS nauunawan na nila ang human evolution. Nakakahiya.

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The only thing I see that you're good at is ad hominems, nothing more. Kaya ang sarap mo iiwan sa ere kausap eh.
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: DXM May 22, 2016, 09:25:05 PM
Evolution is nothing but theory.. Yes we have fossils, but they are just correlating it human anatomy.. again, there is no living evidence on this, all are dug up bones and nothing else.. plain Theory
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: naruto789544 May 23, 2016, 11:40:11 AM
hope this issue is laid to rest already... pacquiao won and showed he is still popular amidst many controversies with him...
: Re: LGBT vs Pacquiao
: evan-r91 May 23, 2016, 12:07:14 PM
@DXM "THEORY" ganyan lng yan ka simple, yung mga trying hard na gawin totoo yan they are simply men of incongruity, they are just putting themselves in a world of pure pretentions akala mo nga matalino eh ang gagago naman subukan mo makipag debate sa kanila to see how they reason malalaman mo.