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: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: dark_machine September 26, 2011, 04:01:53 AM
A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words.

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Catholic Archbishop Stepinac and Papal Nuncio Marcone with Nazi General

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Catholic Archbishop Stepinac with Nazi Ante Pavelic, head of the Ustashi in Croatia

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Catholic Archbishop Stepinac with Ustashi Nazis

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Catholic Cardinal Bertram and Nazis

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Catholic Cardinal Faulhaber marching with Nazis

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Catholic Clergy saluting Hitler

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Catholic Freidrich Coch and Nazis

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Catholic Hitler with Catholic Cardinal

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Catholic Hitler with Catholic Nun

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Catholic Hitler with Catholic Reich Bishop Muller

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Catholic Nazi Clergy

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Catholic Priest Jozef Tiso and Hitler

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Catholic Priests and Nazis salute Hitler

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Catholic Priests salute Hitler

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Catholic Saric with Nazi Ante Pavelic in Sarajevo

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Hitler and Catholic Ante Pavelic, Nazi puppet ruler of Croatia

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Hitler and Catholic Papal Nuncio

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Hitler and Catholic Papel Nuncio Archbishop Orsenigo

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Hitler attending Catholic Church

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Investiture of Ludwig Muller as Reich Church Bishop

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Nazi Ante Pavelic and Catholic Nuns

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Nazi Brown Shirts attending Catholic Church

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Nazi Celebration for Catholic Bishop Konrad Praysing

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Nazi puppet Ante Pavelic with Catholic Franciscian Monks

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Nazis and Catholic Nuns

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Picture of Nazi Catholic Priests from AIZ Magazine, 1934

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Reich Catholic Bishop Ludwig Muller and Nazis

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Reich Catholic Bishop Muller and Nazis

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Spanish Catholic Hierarchy and Nazis

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Vatican Papal Nuncio and Nazis

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Hitler and Catholic Bishops

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: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: reg September 27, 2011, 01:17:02 PM
hindi na natin pa kailngan lumayo or bumalik pa sa nakaraan tingnan nyo na lang ngumiti si pope benedict. raised and educated by nazi youth
: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: kobeyaki September 27, 2011, 01:54:34 PM
kaya naman masyadong malamig ang pagtanggap sa santo papa sa germany kahit na taga roon pa siya.
: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: gkhan September 27, 2011, 02:12:59 PM
Nazism is just a political movement.  The Catholic Church embraces any human being irrespective of race, gender, creed or belief.  Every member of the Nazi movement is just like any of us, a human being.  Hence, the Catholic Church perceives anyone embracing the faith as within its ambit. Even during the time of the man Jesus Christ, there were already various religions in the Middle East.  That is why there are Pharisees who are members of a religious sect and that sect believed that the man Jesus Christ is an anathema to their religious beliefs - that is why they have him crucified. To give a slant to scenes showing members of the Catholic Church fraternizing with members of the Nazi Party as if the CAtholic Church itself as an institution has imbibed the ideals of the Party is a distortion of history.
: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: rcam3609 September 27, 2011, 04:31:37 PM
Distortion of history...certainly not.  A prime example is Croatia.  The Roman Catholic hierarchy fully supported the Croat fascist who ruled Croatia during world war 2.  Infact, croat priests would man roadblocks during the war and would pick out their Serbian and Bosnian enemies by asking them to make the sign of the cross which of course they can't...well let just say they were given to the dreaded Ustashi.  Let us not forget, fr. Alois Hudal, the Vatican secretary of state who founded the "ratline", the organization that was responsible for helping fugitive nazi's escape.  Fascism and Nazism are the same, Hitler just had in his evil mind, the extermination of the Jews.  By the way, don't forget Franco and fascist Spain, when they defeated their republican foes, the pope sent out a papal announcement proclaiming it's joy and relief that the fascist Franco won in the war.
: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: dark_machine September 27, 2011, 09:02:05 PM
Nazism is just a political movement.  The Catholic Church embraces any human being irrespective of race, gender, creed or belief.  Every member of the Nazi movement is just like any of us, a human being.  Hence, the Catholic Church perceives anyone embracing the faith as within its ambit. Even during the time of the man Jesus Christ, there were already various religions in the Middle East.  That is why there are Pharisees who are members of a religious sect and that sect believed that the man Jesus Christ is an anathema to their religious beliefs - that is why they have him crucified. To give a slant to scenes showing members of the Catholic Church fraternizing with members of the Nazi Party as if the CAtholic Church itself as an institution has imbibed the ideals of the Party is a distortion of history.
Distortion of history? I think you should ponder carefully your assumption. Ever since the long history of catholicism, they were always the persecutors. Remember the fall of the library of alexandria(the prime turning point of human history), the crusaders, the inquisitions..etc. Yes, indeed in the modern history they didn't used crusaders to eliminate their opponents but they are very active in political realm for world dominance.

Bishop Alois Hudal, the man who helped the fascist war criminals to escaped. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hudal

By the way I'm a catholic, my fiance and my family were all catholic.   ;)

: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: yolem053 September 28, 2011, 02:01:32 AM
Distortion of history? I think you should ponder carefully your assumption. Ever since the long history of catholicism, they were always the persecutors. Remember the fall of the library of alexandria(the prime turning point of human history), the crusaders, the inquisitions..etc. Yes, indeed in the modern history they didn't used crusaders to eliminate their opponents but they are very active in political realm for world dominance.

Bishop Alois Hudal, the man who helped the fascist war criminals to escaped. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hudal

By the way I'm a catholic, my fiance and my family were all catholic.   ;)



NO YOU"RE NOT!!! laffman::
: Re: The Vatican and Fascism-Nazi
: dark_machine September 28, 2011, 02:09:29 AM
NO YOU"RE NOT!!! laffman::
Yeah, I'm an alien.I will abduct you in the night and include to my experiment. I will transfer your dick to your forehead.  ::lmao