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Some of them are running for senate... what are their accomplishment as representatives ba?  Where do they spend their pork barrel? Will you vote for them?

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ayaw ko sa communist

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ano nga ba nagawa nila? puro kontra? rally? smoking::

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Pag yan na mga makakaliwa naupo sa gubyerno wala manyayari kundi rally, puro sila ngawa at angal wala nman solusyon na iminumungkahi, at pag nanalo mga yan uuwi na d2 si Joma Sison para kumandidato pangulo at pg nangyari un mga sundalo at pulis na ang mamumundok, NPA na ang tatao sa mga prinsinto, o my philipines my philippines.
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Between them and the likes of the Ampatuans, I'll take them any day of the week.
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In the sense that kailangan din natin ng fiscalizers in Congress, they should be there.  May prinsipyo at batayan lagi ang anumang pag angal nila.  Kung hindi ka naman aangal eh parang you tolerate shenanigans in government.  In the first place, sila lang naman ang group na may political ideology at hindi pwedeng mabiling boto unlike most congressmen or senators na for sale ang boto sa taga malakanyang.  Kung mag spearhead man sila ng rally, public expression of dissent is tolerated and allowed under our Constitution.  Everybody should remember that nagsimula ang pagbagsak ni Mr. Andy dahil sa sunod sunod na rally. Bumagsak si Erap dahil din sa rally ng mga tao to oust him.  Hindi masama ang mag rally because that is just a collective expression. 

Secondly, wala ng communist ngayon.  Anybody who says so does not seem to be reading history books or updated sa current events.  Even China is now a capitalist country. So is Russia.  You can not equate dissent with a propaganda brand.  Hindi tama at fair to accuse someone of being a communist dahil lamang sa pag angal nito sa mga kalokohan sa pamahalaan.  Pag umangal ka ba sa mga summary killings tulad ng ginagawa nila Palparan ay komunista ka na?  So para hindi ka matawag na komunista ay hindi ka na aangal at ok lang na may pagpapatayin silang mga kabataan, ganun ba?

Ang problema lang sa kanila ay wala sila laging makatotohanan or concrete proposals to effect development.  Walang technical at financial dimensions ang mga sinusulong nilang mga proposals so mostly eh mga motherhood statements lang ang mga yun.  Puro political sloganeering lang tuloy ang labas.

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Pag umangal ka ba sa mga summary killings tulad ng ginagawa nila Palparan ay komunista ka na?  So para hindi ka matawag na komunista ay hindi ka na aangal at ok lang na may pagpapatayin silang mga kabataan, ganun ba?

Ang problema lang sa kanila ay wala sila laging makatotohanan or concrete proposals to effect development.  Walang technical at financial dimensions ang mga sinusulong nilang mga proposals so mostly eh mga motherhood statements lang ang mga yun.  Puro political sloganeering lang tuloy ang labas.

hindi kaya palabas din nila yung sinasabi nila na summary execution nila Palparan? Posible kasi na sila din mismo pumapatay ng mga kasama nila di ba? hindi tayo sure kung yung mga namatay are still loyal to their ideologies or has the tendency to surrender... hindi porke naka-uniform ng military is military na hindi ba?

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Secondly, wala ng communist ngayon.  Anybody who says so does not seem to be reading history books or updated sa current events.  Even China is now a capitalist country. So is Russia.  You can not equate dissent with a propaganda brand.  Hindi tama at fair to accuse someone of being a communist dahil lamang sa pag angal nito sa mga kalokohan sa pamahalaan.  Pag umangal ka ba sa mga summary killings tulad ng ginagawa nila Palparan ay komunista ka na?  So para hindi ka matawag na komunista ay hindi ka na aangal at ok lang na may pagpapatayin silang mga kabataan, ganun ba?

wala na ba filipino communist? ano ideology ni joma and cpp/npa? nagsabi na ba si joma and cpp/npa na ayaw nila sa communism? obvious na allies si joma, ocampo and casino.

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Di naman nakokontento yung mga yan e. kahit sino pa ang umupo, kokontra at kokontra ang mga yan. Rally lang ang alam nila. Wala naman sila mailatag na solusyon sa kahirapan.

Ang sa akin lang naman, di pwedeng walang mahirap. kasi isipin mo pag lahat ng tao, mayaman, sino na ang magtratrabaho para magproduce ng pangangailangan natin. bakit ka pa maghirap ng magsaka kung milyonaryo ka naman.

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walang kwenta, puro sila ngawa tungkol sa pangaabuso ng klase ng gobyerno na umiiral sa ating bayan, pro sino ang kasama nila sa tiket ni villar, si bong bong marcos!!! my good God, have they forgotten what FM and martial law did to them, lalo na 'yang si satur, gunggong!!! sori, kasi bilang kasapi ng kilusan, para akong ginagago ng mga ito eh.
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walang kwenta, puro sila ngawa tungkol sa pangaabuso ng klase ng gobyerno na umiiral sa ating bayan, pro sino ang kasama nila sa tiket ni villar, si bong bong marcos!!! my good God, have they forgotten what FM and martial law did to them, lalo na 'yang si satur, gunggong!!! sori, kasi bilang kasapi ng kilusan, para akong ginagago ng mga ito eh.

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and in my opinion mas maganda pa buhay ng mga Pilipino nung panahon ni Marcos Sr. kahit sabihin mong kurakot sya.
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Wala na ngang communists pero the idea of communism still runs in those leftists.  They just learn on how to incorporate the idea of communism in a democratic environment.  Ibig pala sabihin kung lagi na hahalal ang party list mo baka pwede na mag solo flight? Kaya pala dami nag papa register sa party list.  Saan na ba ang essence ng party list as marginalized sectors?  Ito ba talaga nag rerepresent sa marginalized sectors?  :(
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meron nga bang nagawa ang mga ito na nakabuti sa buhay ng mga tao... kahit man lang sa mga mieymbro ng kanilang partido?

ang pagkaalam ko lang ang ang ginawa ng mga ito ay mambatikos ng mambatikos ng mga pamamalakad ng mga negosyante, gobyerno at mga pulitiko.

nakapagtatag ba ang mga ito ng kahit na maliliit na mga pangkabuhayan para sa mga maliliit na tao?


kung mahalal kaya ang mga ito sa senado... saan kaya nila gagamitin ang kanilang mga pork barrel? malaking pera yan pantustos sa mga kilusang makakaliwa..... mas malaking pondo, mas malaking kilusan... mas malaking kilusan...

pede na ngang umuwi nyan si JOMA SISON.

ano sa palagay niyo?
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Sa mga partylist eh Gabriela lang ang nakikita ko na may matinong nagawa...
If ever na may alam pa kayong iba eh idagdag niyo na lang...
So far, Gabriela lang ang matino para sakin...

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:Ferdinand Marcos Jr. is not Ferdinand Marcos Sr.  smoking::

:and in my opinion mas maganda pa buhay ng mga Pilipino nung panahon ni Marcos Sr. kahit sabihin mong kurakot sya.

With all due respect, m'sieur, I would have to disagree with the above statement. The supposed security that prevailed at that time was patently false and illusory.

:pede na ngang umuwi nyan si JOMA SISON.

I say let him come home and let him run for whatever political office that he wants. If there are enough people who believe in him, then he'll win; if not, then he won't. And if there are enough people who dislike him, then I'm sure they'll be more than willing to throw him out of office like they did with Marcos the Elder and Joseph Estrada.

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wala na ba filipino communist? ano ideology ni joma and cpp/npa? nagsabi na ba si joma and cpp/npa na ayaw nila sa communism? obvious na allies si joma, ocampo and casino.

Even if we follow the ideology of Joma and study marxism or leninism or what we term before as kaisipang Mao Tse Tung, communism is a far stage after the destruction of capitalism and socialism.  In fact, ang gusto namin nuon ay National Democracy which is a stage after the destruction of capitalism.  Unfortunately, nagkaroon ng historical movements, nagkaroon ng world trade organization at meron globalization, floating exchange and with the advent of the internet where knowledge became available to everybody, pati mga supposed "communist" countries ay naging kapitalista.  So anyone who says meron "communism" does not know what he is talking about.  Walang bansa ang nakarating sa stage ng "communism" - an ideal stage na parang utopia.

Due to the Cold War, part ng propaganda ng America ang paggamit ng salitang "communism" to characterize those countries that are not within their ambit na Free World daw.

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This people know that communism is dead , look at russia which is now a whole hearted capitalist,  china whose communism is watered down that it is a communist in name only... the only real communist now is cuba and north korea

this people can not be trusted and they are opportunist
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Caveat emptur (buyers beware), the left (those allied with Joma, the  NDF and the CPP/NPA) are getting into the government to weaken the government from the inside. Dapat dagukan si Manny Vilar for accomodating Satur and friends. This decision of the NP shows how desperate they are to promote Manny Villar's candidacy at all costs.

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Caveat emptur (buyers beware), the left (those allied with Joma, the  NDF and the CPP/NPA) are getting into the government to weaken the government from the inside. Dapat dagukan si Manny Vilar for accomodating Satur and friends. This decision of the NP shows how desperate they are to promote Manny Villar's candidacy at all costs.

That does balance out the right-wingers in the government. Fair is fair.
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"That does balance out the right-wingers in the government. Fair is fair."

right wing means the militaristic and fascist segment of the political spectrum relative to the left extremist such as the CPP-npa-ndf which now has people or termites eating away at our democracy...

wag nyo iboto itong sila satur, teddy at lisa masa, yung mga hakot nila sa rally, di nila binabayaran, ginugutom pa nila... yeah, that's right, pati sila naghahakot na rin sa rally kasi ala ng gustong magrally ng libre ngaun!!! asan na ung budget nila pra sa mobilization at mass orientation from their "revolutionary tax collection" at ung pork barrel nila kasama na ung mga donations from abroad from leftist organizations? sana lang wag na nila gayahin ung nasa gobyerno, ibigay nila ung pera sa mga taong umaasang babayaran nila pra maging mukha ng kabalintunaan ng kanilang paniniwala...
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"That does balance out the right-wingers in the government. Fair is fair."

right wing means the militaristic and fascist segment of the political spectrum relative to the left extremist such as the CPP-npa-ndf which now has people or termites eating away at our democracy...

wag nyo iboto itong sila satur, teddy at lisa masa, yung mga hakot nila sa rally, di nila binabayaran, ginugutom pa nila... yeah, that's right, pati sila naghahakot na rin sa rally kasi ala ng gustong magrally ng libre ngaun!!! asan na ung budget nila pra sa mobilization at mass orientation from their "revolutionary tax collection" at ung pork barrel nila kasama na ung mga donations from abroad from leftist organizations? sana lang wag na nila gayahin ung nasa gobyerno, ibigay nila ung pera sa mga taong umaasang babayaran nila pra maging mukha ng kabalintunaan ng kanilang paniniwala...

If I'm not mistaken, the right wing also has "people or termites eating away at our democracy..."
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