Topic: The Great Global Warming Swindle

[manyakihiro]

Bago pa mauwi sa awayan at paangasan na naman (na  nasimulan na sa isang  Ibang Global Warming Thread), ibalik natin ang "Science" sa usapin ng Global Warming.


The Great Global Warming Swindle


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Para Balanse ang lahat, hanapin nyo na rin ang Inconvinient Truth Presentation ni Al Gore.

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salamat

[spikespeigel]

Thanks but no thanks but this thread exactly falls unto the trap of the world's biggest CO2 producing countries. Please follow the link below to have a balanced picture:

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/climatesos/2009/12/20091215132841134624.html

[Idiot]

Jim White of Instaar says today's climatologists are fighting major interests such as the oil and gas industries in much the same way physicians were fighting the tobacco lobby in the 1960s.

The evidence that nicotine caused lung diseases such as cancer was overwhelming, but the tobacco industry's strategy was to discredit scientists as "uncertain and greedy and full of junk science," White said.

"That's what climate scientists are up against today."

totoo namang sinasabi nila

tobacco can cause cancer

same as global warming

mahirap ba na mag-biodeisel ang Pinas? bakit hindi sinusulang ang biodiesel? bakit pre-occupied tayo sa Petrol na available na available ang biodiesel AFAIK Makati lang ang may ganito nakakatipid sila ng 36,000/month dahil gumagamit sila sa biodiesel

kaya sinasabi nila na hoax sya dahil siguro 100% affected ang business nila and it means "Multi-billion big business"

anong chance naman nila nagagamit mong cooking oil magiging diesel kahit ako sasabihin kong hoax ang Glbal warming na yan

[manyakihiro]

Thanks but no thanks but this thread exactly falls unto the trap of the world's biggest CO2 producing countries. Please follow the link below to have a balanced picture:

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/climatesos/2009/12/20091215132841134624.html

Have you seen the temperature change data throughout geologic time? (http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,106026.30.html) The main argument for global warming is the 100 year change or gradient  in temperature, but look where we are now( temperature-wise ) using geologic time temperature records , the temperature curves would tell us that that we are (probably) just in a stage within the normal cycle of earth 's temperature rise and fall (glacial and interglacial stages).

(....... The argument against the greenhouse theory is new to me, but i'm familiar with the temperature record which i've encountered 2 or 3 times even before i bumped into this climate change debates....)

Guys, Let's just separate opinions and our conspiracy theories from facts in this kind of debate.

[Idiot]

Have you seen the temperature change data throughout geologic time?.The main argument for global warming is the 100 year change or gradient  in temperature, but look where we are now( temperature-wise ) using geologic time temperature records , the temperature curves would tell us that that we are (probably) just in a stage within the normal cycle of earth 's temperature rise and fall (glacial and interglacial stages).

the normal cycle but kulang ang variable mo

noon konti lang ang tao maraming animals

ngayon konti ang animals marami ang tao

eventhough it is a normal cycle different species can strive sa ganun environment kase konti ang tao therefore nagkakaroon ng migration so kahit na mainit sa ganitong lugar nakakamigrate sila sa lugar na katamtaman ang climate at nakakasurvive sila 

sa ngayon applicable ba ang normal cycle na yan nope marami ang tao so kung magkakaroon ng tag-init or famine magkakaroon lang ng chaos and anarchy kase hindi naman malaya ang paglalakbay sa country to country baka magkarron pa ng genocide or another killing fields

[manyakihiro]

Comments and questions lang po dahil mukhang convinced na convinced ka na man- made ang present climate change...


the normal cycle but kulang ang variable mo :

Anong data on climate-change related variables ang hawak mo para i-contest ang data from sedimentary units and ice cores at oxygen isotopes? abundance, diversity, and distribution of Co2 releasing species throughout time? green-house gas emission data of volcanic gases?atmospheric suspended ash plume data? mountain building and erosion rates (c02 release related)?, etc....

kung meron kang factuall data, pashare  atbaka maconvince mo ang marami...


noon konti lang ang tao maraming animals ngayon konti ang animals marami ang tao :

pakicheck na lang ulit maagi yung graphs na nirefer ko. check the Xs and Ys carefully and realted Temperature (delta T). then ilagay mo na rin sa timeline kung san lumabas ang tao, ang proto-tao, ang mammals, reptiles, dinosaurs, multi cellular organisms, unicellulars at mga mass extinction.


i suspect di ka rin view nung 8-part vid before commenting.



eventhough it is a normal cycle different species can strive sa ganun environment kase konti ang tao therefore nagkakaroon ng migration so kahit na mainit sa ganitong lugar nakakamigrate sila sa lugar na katamtaman ang climate at nakakasurvive sila 
sa ngayon applicable ba ang normal cycle na yan nope marami ang tao so kung magkakaroon ng tag-init or famine magkakaroon lang ng chaos and anarchy kase hindi naman malaya ang paglalakbay sa country to country baka magkarron pa ng genocide or another killing fields:

You lost me. .  na lang

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