Topic: bombing sa glorietta

[ThePunisher]

Kung i-analyze niyo un nangyayari sa ngyn pwede niyo rin sabhin na gov din ang may gawa bakit?

Pangyayari before Glorieta bombing:

1.) humaharap si GMA sa isang malaking skandalo tungkol sa half a million "money giving spree" per governor/congressman na nangyari. At hindi natin alam kung papanu niya ito malulusutan
2.) Nwalan na ng power si GMA sa senate and Nawawalan na ng power si GMA sa Congress and pagnawala un hindi na siya makakapag pasunod ng tama, may isang way pero ito ay kung magkkaroon siya ng emergency powers. Un emergency powers niya is magkakaroon lang kung may mga grabeng pangyayari sa bansa.
3.) Nagplaplan ang mga bishop (3) na magkaroon ng malawakang rally. ANother way to stop this is to put the country on Red alert. That it can deploy several military over the city and employ preemptive anti rally group.

After nangyari nung sa Glorieta
1.) Nagkaroon ng Red Alert dito sa metro manila, for that for sure makakapagdeploy sila ng military troops over the city.
2.) Ma sway un balita and concerns ng tao from about kay gloria patungo sa Glorieta Blast.

May possibility na government ang may gawa.

Pero still pwede rin to na gawa ng iba.

Kayo na lang po ang humusga.

Have a nice day!

i think tama ka nga... yun din ang duda ko...

[chavit]

everything is a possibility...whether administration o opposition o terrorist attack ito, the first that we should do, i think is to sympathize to the victims, help in every best possible way to solve the contingency, and condemn what had happened...like what SEN. TRILLANES did, i think its not the way a one senator must do!!!  dapat talaga sa kanya ibulok sa kulungan! he's a threat to national security! wala na nga syang nagawa para sa bansa natin, kaguluhan pa gusto nya...gusto nya mag-away-away mga kapwa pilipino so that in the end they will be victorious and they will have a place in the government...

[ichiru_69]

bakit ba lahat ng sisi sa government indi ba ito tactika ng kalaban ng government para bumagsak ang economy... lets be fair sa mga last presidents si arroyo lang nakappag stabilize ng economy natin.. dahil dito ba bagsak nanaman economy natin,,

agree ako dito, yun lang 

thxs bro..

[123kid123]

@susOmaryosep - Those are stories which of course I couldn't disagree with the idea. Yes and yes but can you blame it to this current government?

Let me give you another example. Two minimum-paid-working parents can support a child. They can hardly support two.

Regarding corruption issues, I think that's one of the problem, we tell this stories but we just can't prove it. We can raise all stories, all questionable points and base those questionable points to more questionable points. Even the people who are involved couldn't prove a damn thing. Joey De Venecia's accusations were based on reputation.

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

[evil_eye]

muslim yan sila naman mahilig magpabomba traydor sila mabait pag bebentahan ka gamit pero pag nakatalikod ka na o kaya may problema gamit pag22lungan ka mga manloloko racist na kung racist pero wala akong nakitang mabait na muslim!

[bleep]

@susOmaryosep - Those are stories which of course I couldn't disagree with the idea. Yes and yes but can you blame it to this current government?

Let me give you another example. Two minimum-paid-working parents can support a child. They can hardly support two.

Regarding corruption issues, I think that's one of the problem, we tell this stories but we just can't prove it. We can raise all stories, all questionable points and base those questionable points to more questionable points. Even the people who are involved couldn't prove a damn thing. Joey De Venecia's accusations were based on reputation.

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

@susOmaryosep - Those are stories which of course I couldn't disagree with the idea. Yes and yes but can you blame it to this current government?

Let me give you another example. Two minimum-paid-working parents can support a child. They can hardly support two.

Regarding corruption issues, I think that's one of the problem, we tell this stories but we just can't prove it. We can raise all stories, all questionable points and base those questionable points to more questionable points. Even the people who are involved couldn't prove a damn thing. Joey De Venecia's accusations were based on reputation.

It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.

i cant put the blame on the current govt alone. siguro series of events din ito kaya nandito tayo ngayon. di lang naman si gma ang maloko na presidente eh.

minsan yun ang nakakadismaya sa bansa natin. why cant we prove anything? maybe because most of the people are also paid. and maybe thats why govt officials and some govt employees are so rich. paying off everyone involves larger costs on projects that we, the tax payers are shouldering.

its not what you know, its what you can prove. very true sir. yun nga nakaka dismaya sa ating bansa eh. lahat nakakalusot. nag tatakipan sila (politicians), para sa sarili lang nila. sana maalala nila, nandyan sila as public servants, to improve the country and not work as crooks in power.

sana habang napag uusapan ang mga ganitong issues, may makabasa naman na nasa puesto at maitama in the future para tuluyang umasenso ang bayan at mabawasan, if not ma eradicate ang poverty sa pilipinas. theres no place like home, theres no place like the philippines. kahit papano, mahal pa rin natin ang bansa natin.

[bleep]

in addition to my last post and going back to the original topic, mukang maka sarili lang ang mastermind nito. di nila inisip ang mga nasaktan sa kanilang ginawa. nandito tayo para mag bigay ng ideas pero di na natin siguro malalaman kung sino talaga ang gumawa. sa diyos na lang sila managot.

di makabayan at di maka pilipino ang kanilang ginawa! 

[carlocarr]

muslim yan sila naman mahilig magpabomba traydor sila mabait pag bebentahan ka gamit pero pag nakatalikod ka na o kaya may problema gamit pag22lungan ka mga manloloko racist na kung racist pero wala akong nakitang mabait na muslim!

wag naman lahatin. May good din nman sa kanila... magkakagulo lang lalo kung sisihin natin ang lahat ng muslim.Ikaw pare, kung sa palagay mo lahat ng muslim masama, anung gs2 mong gawin sa kanila? patayin? ikulong? Ako, hindi ako sa muslim nagagalit kundi sa terrorista kahit na sabihin nyo na muslim sila.Bakit kung ang kristyano ba perpekto? di naman dba? pumapatay rin sila ng madaming tao.so my point is, magalit sa terrorista wag sa muslim.

[gelgel]

Eto o, may nagsalita na isang ex-military. Maganda yung mga points na ni-raise nya.

"If it was a serious terrorist bombing (Islamist/NPA, etc.), the body count could have been more, the target should be a crowded area, and the deaths or injuries should have been more than blast-related or “shock wave” induced. We should have seen more blood, dismemberment, and terror. As it is, it was a clean blomb, more percussive (just for loud noise) than destructive, they did not find traces, of course they never will. RDX is the signature of C4, if they insist on looking for the detonator in this case a blasting cap it has already been blown to smithereens. If this were tradditional terrorists, shrapnel should have found, (nails, ball bearings, etc.) but there isn’t. This was intentional, clean, and well aimed, with deliberate calculation for as low collateral damage as possible, designed to “make a loud noise.” Terrorists, the genuine ones’ message is “HATE” so in their attacks its always calculated for maximum casualty, grim, bloody, terror.

Only old tacticians are so predictable, beware of pacifists, they are as destructive as those who cry “foul!”

The water will wash out traces of the explosive, very convenient, it washed itself. I heard earlier that they found traces of RDX (C4 related). What a shame, if they confirmed C4, not many people has access to it, only the military and mining companies (legally), then it will appear we were attacked by angry miners. The MILF, RSM, have nothing to gain by bombing this area, they can get national attention just by ambushing our soldiers in their territory where they have they have terrain advantage."

From this site.

[-=Kurabo=-]

Eto o, may nagsalita na isang ex-military. Maganda yung mga points na ni-raise nya.

"If it was a serious terrorist bombing (Islamist/NPA, etc.), the body count could have been more, the target should be a crowded area, and the deaths or injuries should have been more than blast-related or “shock wave” induced. We should have seen more blood, dismemberment, and terror. As it is, it was a clean blomb, more percussive (just for loud noise) than destructive, they did not find traces, of course they never will. RDX is the signature of C4, if they insist on looking for the detonator in this case a blasting cap it has already been blown to smithereens. If this were tradditional terrorists, shrapnel should have found, (nails, ball bearings, etc.) but there isn’t. This was intentional, clean, and well aimed, with deliberate calculation for as low collateral damage as possible, designed to “make a loud noise.” Terrorists, the genuine ones’ message is “HATE” so in their attacks its always calculated for maximum casualty, grim, bloody, terror.

Only old tacticians are so predictable, beware of pacifists, they are as destructive as those who cry “foul!”

The water will wash out traces of the explosive, very convenient, it washed itself. I heard earlier that they found traces of RDX (C4 related). What a shame, if they confirmed C4, not many people has access to it, only the military and mining companies (legally), then it will appear we were attacked by angry miners. The MILF, RSM, have nothing to gain by bombing this area, they can get national attention just by ambushing our soldiers in their territory where they have they have terrain advantage."

From this site.

agree.. may point sya.. mukhang d2 p lang confirmed n hndi terrorist attack toh.. so who could it be??.. 

[blackcapricorn]

iisa lang ang alam ko: wala ka nang ligtas ngayon saan kaman magpunta. kaya iwas muna sa mga shopping mall, sa lrt o mrt kung maari, mahirap na at baka matyempuhan ng bomba. kung terorista man yan, gobyerno o kung sinong sira ulong gusto lang magbigay ng sakit at kamatayan sa kapwa nya, makarma sana sya. malasin ka sana. magkaroon ka ng ketong sa dila.

[cyberphobiac]

Hindi nyo ba na notice? after the Bombing si GMA kaagad ang sinisisi. Kung ikaw ba ang presidente at humaharap sa malalaking issue , gagawa ka pa ba ng kabobohan? Sigurado tangal ka nyan! Sino ba ang may kredibilidad na mag hasik ng ganitong perwisyo? ang Gobyerno ba o ang Terorismo? 2months before may nasakote ang mga militar sa isang barko, sako ng pinang hihinalaang sangkap sa pag-gawa ng bomba C4. Hindi pa ba maliwanag na meron ngang may nag paplano na mag sabotahe sa ating ekonomiya? Hwag tayong maging bias. Huwag lahat na nang yayari sa gobyeno natin isisi. baka pakana din ito ng opposition tandaan nyo may taga opposition din na na lilink sa mga NPA. iba na ang NPA noon at NPA ngayon. NPA ngayon magnanakaw, hold-upers, extortionists, kinapers pa. At natural lang na mag Red Alert ang pangulo. katungkolan nya yan upang mapanatili ang kapayapa-an. Ano na lang ang mangyayari kapag hinaya-an nlang ng pangulo? baka hindi lang lang Glorieta, Baka ultimong public Cr, Public Market sasabog maya't-maya.

[daimon123]

Grabe...Muntik na akong masama dyan sa bombing na yan....buti umalis kame 10 mins before the bombing... Mga Islamic Extremist daw gumawa nun eh..Mga Adik!            ganyan dapat ginagawa sa kanila!

[bleep]

Hindi nyo ba na notice? after the Bombing si GMA kaagad ang sinisisi. Kung ikaw ba ang presidente at humaharap sa malalaking issue , gagawa ka pa ba ng kabobohan? Sigurado tangal ka nyan! Sino ba ang may kredibilidad na mag hasik ng ganitong perwisyo? ang Gobyerno ba o ang Terorismo? 2months before may nasakote ang mga militar sa isang barko, sako ng pinang hihinalaang sangkap sa pag-gawa ng bomba C4. Hindi pa ba maliwanag na meron ngang may nag paplano na mag sabotahe sa ating ekonomiya? Hwag tayong maging bias. Huwag lahat na nang yayari sa gobyeno natin isisi. baka pakana din ito ng opposition tandaan nyo may taga opposition din na na lilink sa mga NPA. iba na ang NPA noon at NPA ngayon. NPA ngayon magnanakaw, hold-upers, extortionists, kinapers pa. At natural lang na mag Red Alert ang pangulo. katungkolan nya yan upang mapanatili ang kapayapa-an. Ano na lang ang mangyayari kapag hinaya-an nlang ng pangulo? baka hindi lang lang Glorieta, Baka ultimong public Cr, Public Market sasabog maya't-maya.

like mr 123kid123 had said, its not what you know but what you can prove. can anyone prove it was gma? with gma in power, theres nothing you can pin on her and she knows that. that is why its possible she could have done this. how many scandals has she escaped because her officials refuse to talk because of an executive order she created.

read the previous posts. only gma stands to gain in this bombing by giving her the reason to declare another martial rule. walang makukuha ang opposition dito.

[choloXP]

opinion ko lng to....... Gobyerno may kagagawan nyan... kasi dami ng anomalya ni GMA... at Mike Arroyo... saludo ako sa mga whistle blower at dun sa mga Cogressmen na di nagpasuhol... Act of Diversion lang yun Bombing sa Glorietta... at isa pa Full Red Alert lng ang solusyon ni GMA pra manatali n sya sa pwesto....

[TobleRONe]

martial law, wala rin effect yan, pagwala na yung support ng military kay GMA, madali na sya mapapaalis thru coup de etat. di nya iririsk magdeclare nyan, kaya nga panay ang loyalty check sa mga sundalo lately, di sya sure kung loyal pa sa kanya nag armed forces. tandaan ninyo, both edsa revolution kaya lang nagsucceed ay dahil may support ng military.

remember oakwood mutiny? may mga sundalo na di sang ayon sa administrayson arroyo. maaring ka-alyado nila ang may gawa, para ma-blame agad si GMA. endless possiblities kung sino may gawa.

kung may naisip pa akong posibble theories ipopost ko pa.

[X-Flip]

whoever is reponsible for it they should be burn to death... we also have the blame for it, because we're the one who elected those f*ckin officials. kya next time mga bro, let's think who should be the right man if there's still any to lead the country... or else we'll just wasting our voice again on the streets...

[TobleRONe]

posibleng methane gas daw, maniniwala ba kayo doon?

[AsPhYxxx]

posibble din un kse wla pang nkukuhang shrapnels and blasting capz... pero sana di n ngyari ung aksidenteng un kse ang daming kawawang nadamay!

[carlocarr]

whoever is reponsible for it they should be burn to death... we also have the blame for it, because we're the one who elected those f*ckin officials. kya next time mga bro, let's think who should be the right man if there's still any to lead the country... or else we'll just wasting our voice again on the streets...

i kinda disagree with you.. kahit sino pa pipiliin natin.. kung madaya ang kalaban wala pa rin.. sa tingin mo ba may boboto pa kay Gloria noon.. dinaya nya lang kaya sya nanalo..tsk3

[TobleRONe]

I;ve been doing some reseaching about RDX. Although it is a main component in a C4 explosive. it doesn't mean na C4 na nga ang ginamit sa Glorieta.

===
Explanation sa net about RDX.
RDX In its pure, synthesized state is a white, crystalline solid. As an explosive it is usually used in mixtures with other explosives and plasticizers or desensitizers. It is stable in storage and is considered one of the most powerful and brisant of the military high explosives.   

===
Other type of explosive using RDX
H-6 is a binary explosive that is a castable mixture of RDX, TNT, powdered aluminum, and D-2 wax with calcium chloride added. H-6 is used as the standard bursting charge for general purpose bombs.

baka ito ang ginamit sa glorieta kaya may amoy pulbura daw sabi ng witnesses or ng mga taong present sa scene. it would explain kung bakit walang shrapnels.

[Hayblad]

lumaki yata ang posibility na aksidente nun nalaman nila na yun explosion came from the basement and not sa luk yuwen (watever d spelling) andun pala yun mga gen-set nila at may malaking tank ng diesel (although may doubts ako na sasabog yun tank) tas wala pa nga nakikitang evidence ng bomba, unless of course nakuha ng military yun evidence, nagkanya kanya daw ang pnp at military eh, may inuwi ang pnp, tas may inuwi ang military, hintayin natin bukas kung ano mangyayari, i'm just thinking na sana nga aksidente na alng, para sa kapakanan ng pinas, yun lang ang sa akin     

[Rockford]

Una, makikiramay lang po sa mga nasawi & nasaktan sa trahedya, pacencya na medyo late.....medyo bz lang.

Next, sana lumabas ang katotohanan & di lang mabaon sa limot matapos ang ilang linggo, buwan o taon......

[monkey d luffy]

mga bro im here in sandiego since oct 14 lng, wtfk's happnin there??!!!  ito comment ko, kpag na prove na C4 yan govt may pakana im sure, pero  kc hindi porket govt may pakana c arroyo na ang nasa likod nito, i think theres more behind this stuff,....  di rin pwede terrorist kc wala naman sila mapapakinabangan sa atin eh,.....      wat if some one did it and alam nila sa govt ibibintang bec of its current morale...  keep on posting guys..

[praeto_RYAN]

Thank you sa mga muslim na siraulo kung sila man to ! Sa totoo lang nun dumami muslim sa manila dumami rin kriminalidad. Mga sleeper cell yang mga yan sila sumisira sa mundo ang mga radical na sira ulo na yan na kala pag gumawa ng ganyan ay makakakantot ng maraming virgin sa langit WTF! Islam is a flawed religion tlaga sa totto lang magalit man kayu o hindi

i am no muslim cause i was born of a christian family and was raised and up to now am a christian.

i wouldn't go into lenghts arguing your opinion, because, opinion mo nga yan.

but i know a couple of muslims and lahat sila matitino.
and lahat sila peace-loving.
but totoo rin na lahat din sila may-ari ng mga baril, which is one of their passions.
but owning a gun doesn't make them bad guys.

so as not to look racist, lets refrain from making racist comments and generalizations.

peace po