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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #100 on: October 23, 2007, 01:58:15 am »
tlhe latest news is that, there is no bomb...just an accident cause by gas leak/methane gas from the basement...which i think is true..base dun sa mga nakikita natin na pics/videos...with that dapat sisihin sila ayala at nakapag-alaga nang malls....although aksidente nga ang nagyari...

by the way, nakikiramay ako sa pamilya nang nasawi at nasaktan..also prayers to those who die..

to those muslim haters...you have to retract your post..wala po silang kinalaman dito..aksidente ang nangyari...

sana hindi na maulit ang ganitong aksidente.......



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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #101 on: October 23, 2007, 02:05:04 am »
sabi nila nung una may traces daw ng RDX, then they ruled na C4 daw.. and then, dahil wala silang makitang blasting caps and detonators, they say it's from an underground diesel tank? something's not right here.. smells like a cover-up..  :(

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #102 on: October 23, 2007, 02:10:04 am »
just out of curiosity, and not pushing any ideas, ganito kasi umpisa ng developments tungkol sa glorietta bombing

may sumabog na bomba.  sunod, they looked into the possibility na gas leak.  thy ruled out any possibility of gas leak and said its probably a terrorist attack.  tapos may umako pa sa pangyayari, i forgot the name of th group.

tapos ngayon, bumabalik sila sa accident na anggulo?

antayin na lang natin at baka akuhin na naman nung grupo na sila ang nagkamali at nagcause ng accident, nyahaha.

pero ang siste, hindi nila sinasadya, kasi nga aksidente.  pero terrorist group sila. 

ano kaya masasabi ni senador trillanes dito?
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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #103 on: October 23, 2007, 02:21:29 am »
Rajah sulayman... something, yung group na umaako na sila ang may gawa ng G2 bombing

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #104 on: October 23, 2007, 02:54:20 am »
ano b sinabi ni Trillanes about sa bombing??.. ndi ko alam un eh

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #105 on: October 23, 2007, 03:16:17 am »
sabi ni trillanes govt daw behind. may alam daw dyan sina raul gonzales at gen. esperon

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #106 on: October 23, 2007, 03:26:24 am »
alam naman natin ang mga pulisya at imbistegador dito eh..puro salita..kahit theory lang nila sinasabi agad sa media...unlike sa US...bago sila mgsalita..may facts na hinahain..sa atin puro kuro-kuro...ayan tuloy kung ano-anong ihiminasyon na sa isipinan nang tao....

dapat kc hindi agad sila nagsasalita tungkol sa RDX nan yun..eh wala naman talaga...its an unfortunate accident (redundant)....sinasakyan lang nang pulitika..alin sa dalawa...una para mawala attention kay GMA, at may reason sya na mag-declare nang emergency power..pangalawa, proteksyonan ang mga ayala sa aksedente..ginawa nilang may terorrista para isalba sa pagbabayad nang danyos ang mga ayala, kc kung sisihin ang terrorista, abswelto cila..in the first palce kalaban nmna tlga natin terrorista di ba..

accident happens its unfornutate...pero may kapabayaan ang ayala..hindi nila mini-maintain nang maayos ang building...dapat silang parusahan....GMA at Ayala magkasabwat...para ibunton ang sisi sa iba....mga HAYOP sila..dapt silang mawala sa daigdig na ito.... gun:: gun:: gun::


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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #107 on: October 23, 2007, 03:30:11 am »
ganun na nga, sabi ni trillanes, govt daw may pakana.

even went on saying may basis daw siya para gawin ang ganung akusasyon.

samga pinagbibintangan niya, pag malinis kunsensiya ninyo, go after sen trillanes, para hindi lang dada ang mangyari.

kawawa naman kasi yung mga walang kamalay-malay na nadamay, tapos sa huli wal naman kahihinatnan ang mga imbestigasyon.  ang mangyayari ay magmumukhang showbiz ang lahat at batuhan na lang ng mga maaanghang na salita.
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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #108 on: October 23, 2007, 07:04:45 am »
Thank you sa mga muslim na siraulo kung sila man to ! Sa totoo lang nun dumami muslim sa manila dumami rin kriminalidad. Mga sleeper cell yang mga yan sila sumisira sa mundo ang mga radical na sira ulo na yan na kala pag gumawa ng ganyan ay makakakantot ng maraming virgin sa langit WTF! Islam is a flawed religion tlaga sa totto lang magalit man kayu o hindi

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #109 on: October 23, 2007, 07:11:33 am »
o, Gas explosion nga raw, under maintenance chuchu raw ang basement ng Ayala, nilagyan ng auxiallary fan pero di pa nagana, so may mga fumes yata na naipon ekek, so kung tama ang report eh pano ba yan, it was a tragic accident nga mga dudes, at pag magkataon nga na aksidente eh kakain na naman si Trillianes ng salita? ehehehe!  laffman::

pero ayon sa kakosa sa UP Dil, imposible pa raw yun dahil di naman nga nasabog ang diesel, at kung CH4 nga ang cause eh dapat amoy itlog ang mall gawa ng hydrogen sulfide gawa ang sourvce eh poso negro, kaso lang, buo yun flooring eh, ehehehe! abangan ang susunod na kabanata!

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #110 on: October 23, 2007, 07:32:56 am »
mataas na temp ang kailangan para mag-ignite ang diesel. kailangan mapatunayan na mataas na temp ang nagawa ng mag-ignite ang methane, para sumabog din ang diesel.

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #111 on: October 23, 2007, 07:40:18 am »
ang alam ko sa diesel kasi, high temp and pressure para sumabog eh, parang sa diesel engine, cocompress mo muna yun diesel, so magincrease ang temp and pressure nya, tas pagpasok ng source ng spark, saka puputok, so may punto nga mga katoto sa UP Diliman

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #112 on: October 23, 2007, 07:46:25 am »
anong nagyari sa initial report na authorities found traces of RDX,something like c4 components?

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #113 on: October 23, 2007, 07:53:03 am »
ewan ko ba sa RDX na yan, wala balita eh, basta may trace daw, eh wala nga silang maipakitang ebidensya na may trace nga gawa nagagawan ng evidence ang pnp at military, ngayon naman, tank explosion daw gawa wala nga makitang bomb parts like blasting caps, ang nakita kasi nila eh yun logbook about sa maintenance ng basement kung saan andun yun caps, i have a feeling na walang mangyayari dito sa kasong ito

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #114 on: October 23, 2007, 07:58:36 am »
kung enclosed area yung pinaglalagyan ng diesel tank, posibleng sumabog nga kung ang factors ay high temp at pressure. air expands when heated. kaya magkakaroon ng pressure pag nag-ignite ang methane. yun nga lang, napakadaming volume ng methane ang kailangan para makapagproduce ng mataas na temp at pressure. kailangan icalculate yung size ng room, volume of methane.

sa kitchen na lang kasi na-experience ko na yung gas leak lang tapos nag-ignite, tumalsik ako. sunog ang kilay at buhok ko noon.

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #115 on: October 23, 2007, 08:08:22 am »
bakit ba pag may nangyayaring masama, puro si gma na lang ang sinisisi? minsan ang kikitid din kasi ng ulo ng mga tao eh. di ba nila naisip na pwedeng oposition din ang may gawa nito para ibintang kay gma? dami masyadong nakikisawsaw at namumulitika sa issue eh. bakit nung pinugutan ng ulo ang mga marines ng mga rebelde, walang nag-ingay at nagrally? namatay rin sila di ba? nag-rally ba ang KMU, Bayan Muna at Gabriella para sa kanila?

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #116 on: October 23, 2007, 08:14:47 am »
natatawa ako kay trillanes eh.. nagbibintang na naman. if may ebidensya siya, bakit di nya ilabas? salita ng salita eh.. eh kung tama yung naaalala ko, grupo niya ang nagpalibot ng bomba sa oakwood area at glorietta dati.. sino nga ulit ang balak magpasabog ng glorietta? haha.. ewan ko ba bakit maraming bumoto diyan... i guess filipinos are not that wise when casting their votes..

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #117 on: October 23, 2007, 08:48:38 am »
methane gas naman ngayon. may posibilidad, sige. pero parang ang malas naman ng mga ayala para mangyari yon. sa sobrang dami na kasinungalingan na narinig natin sa gobyerno ngayon (at dating gobyerno), di na natin alam kung ano paniniwalaan. kahit katotohanan na, di natin maiwasan pa rin magduda...

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #118 on: October 23, 2007, 10:57:46 am »
natatawa ako kay trillanes eh.. nagbibintang na naman. if may ebidensya siya, bakit di nya ilabas? salita ng salita eh.. eh kung tama yung naaalala ko, grupo niya ang nagpalibot ng bomba sa oakwood area at glorietta dati.. sino nga ulit ang balak magpasabog ng glorietta? haha..

naisip ko nga rin noong nabalita na C4 daw un, baka ung mga bomba na ginamit niya sa mutiny na naiwan dun sa glorietta ung sumabog.. hehe..

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2007, 10:58:11 am »
impossible n aksidente sa tingin koh.. kasi kung ipoi2nt nila sa diesel.. kaikailanganin daw ng 600 degrees celsius bago toh sumabog.. unless n lng kung sinadya

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2007, 11:15:27 am »
natatawa ako kay trillanes eh.. nagbibintang na naman. if may ebidensya siya, bakit di nya ilabas? salita ng salita eh.. eh kung tama yung naaalala ko, grupo niya ang nagpalibot ng bomba sa oakwood area at glorietta dati.. sino nga ulit ang balak magpasabog ng glorietta? haha..

naisip ko nga rin noong nabalita na C4 daw un, baka ung mga bomba na ginamit niya sa mutiny na naiwan dun sa glorietta ung sumabog.. hehe..

ano kaya mangyayari kay Trillanes kung sakaling ma-prove nga na aksidente yun nangyari? katakot takot na batikos na naman siguro aabutin ng isang yan!  :P

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2007, 01:21:39 pm »
natatawa ako kay trillanes eh.. nagbibintang na naman. if may ebidensya siya, bakit di nya ilabas? salita ng salita eh.. eh kung tama yung naaalala ko, grupo niya ang nagpalibot ng bomba sa oakwood area at glorietta dati.. sino nga ulit ang balak magpasabog ng glorietta? haha..

naisip ko nga rin noong nabalita na C4 daw un, baka ung mga bomba na ginamit niya sa mutiny na naiwan dun sa glorietta ung sumabog.. hehe..

ano kaya mangyayari kay Trillanes kung sakaling ma-prove nga na aksidente yun nangyari? katakot takot na batikos na naman siguro aabutin ng isang yan!  :P

dalawa lang yan bro, either sasabihin niya na peke ang resulta at totoo ang sinasabi niya or tatanggapin niya na napahiya siya. salita kasi ng salita, wala naman katibayan. di na lang manahimik sa kulungan niya. halatang kulang sa pansin eh.. kung talagang alam niya na gobyerno ang may gawa nun, bakit walang maipakitang katibayan? yung mga naniniwala kay trillanes, uto-uto kayo.. nagpapag*go kayo sa taong yan...

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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2007, 01:48:23 pm »
basta ako...nakikiramay nalang  sa mga namatay at nasaktan...higit sa lahat..sila ang biktima at nabago ang takbo ng buhay.

kaya mga kaibigan...sa darating na susunod na eleksiyon...alam nyo na gagawin nyo!...iboto ang karapatdapat!!!...
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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2007, 01:55:37 pm »
mga bro natanggap ko sa e-mail ........Post ko LANG PO!

nakikiramay ako kay Carlo Cruz.



Good day everyone,

I wish I were writing under different circumstances.

I would like to inform you that my wife Leslie Cruz
was part of the casualties in the Glorietta 2 Mall
bombing in Makati City, Philippines. She was supposed
to have a minor out patient surgery at Makati Medical
Center at 230pm.

I had taken a leave from work to accompany her there.
We dropped off our daughter, Amber, at my parents
place in QC to babysit at around 10am. We then
proceeded to Makati and was there at 1230pm. Since she
had been fasting in preparation for her procedure, she
wanted to move ar ound and listen to some music while I
grabbed a bite to eat. We parked at the basement of
Park Square 2, and headed for the Glorietta 2
entrance. We parted at the top of the escalator, she
turned right towards Filbar's while I went left
towards the restaurants. That was the last time I
would see her.

Around 120pm, she had called me so that we can meet at
the Glorietta 2 exit just in time to make her
appointment. As I made my way there from Glorietta 1
through the connecting hallways, and was about to turn
the corner, I heard 2 deep thumps and the shock-wave
from the blast hit me. At that moment my heart dropped
as I knew that the origin of the blast came from the
same place where we were supposed to meet. I tried
getting to where my wife was, but the dust was too
much and it was as if I was staring at a white wall.

I still tried to convince myself that she was able to
make it out, and that after ringing her mobile without
a response only meant that she dropped it in the
confusion. After 6 hours of searching from Makati Med.
to Ospital ng Makati, the blast site, and back again
to MMC - with the help of all the people I could get
hold of, that I was able to get confirmation in what
the state of my wife was.

My Dad and Uncle signaled me in from the ER of MMC. My
Uncle (who's a doctor) asked me to describe Leslie's
appearance to another group of doctors. I saw in the
eyes of one that the description made sense. Instead
of confirming it to me, they huddled together, then
brought me to a small examination room. It was only
through a digital camera that I was able to confirm
(and deny) that she was indeed gone.

I have so many regrets. I should have met her sooner.
I should have ran instead of a brisk walk. I should
have not chose to park where I did. I should have
braved the dust and went in the blast site. I should
have ...

Today's the 4th day. It is still terribly difficult to
breathe, let alone wake up realizing that your source
of strength, your best friend doesn't lie beside you
on your bed. That my deepest worry is when Amber
starts asking for her Mama.

I am glad that Amber's too young to understand the
loss and pain. In time I would like to tell her the
details of how her mother died, but more importantly I
would like to raise her as how her mother lived - a
loving person, strong willed, decisive, caring, and
nurturing. She has always cared for her family and
friends, and sacrfied her career for being a full time
mom and home maker.

As with all couples we had our ups and downs - none of
which I regret not going through. The sweet is never
as sweet without the sour. For almost 4 years of
marriage, we've finally hit our balance in life only
to be taken away in an instant. I have no regrets
about our marriage. She has loved me and Amber beyond
her capacity. I will always love her.

It is my first time to write to egroup as I've lurked
and watched emails being sent to and fro. All I want
now is that for each of the couples here is to cherish
each moment that we spend with our loved ones. Pretty
simple to say, very easy to take for granted.

Thank you all for the prayers. I would still like to
ask you to please include Leslie in them until her
40th day so that the path to God's kingdom is well lit
and she is no longer in the dark.

Sincerely,

Carlo Cruz
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Re: bombing sa glorietta
« Reply #124 on: October 24, 2007, 06:34:21 am »
natatawa ako kay trillanes eh.. nagbibintang na naman. if may ebidensya siya, bakit di nya ilabas? salita ng salita eh.. eh kung tama yung naaalala ko, grupo niya ang nagpalibot ng bomba sa oakwood area at glorietta dati.. sino nga ulit ang balak magpasabog ng glorietta? haha..

naisip ko nga rin noong nabalita na C4 daw un, baka ung mga bomba na ginamit niya sa mutiny na naiwan dun sa glorietta ung sumabog.. hehe..

ano kaya mangyayari kay Trillanes kung sakaling ma-prove nga na aksidente yun nangyari? katakot takot na batikos na naman siguro aabutin ng isang yan!  :P

dalawa lang yan bro, either sasabihin niya na peke ang resulta at totoo ang sinasabi niya or tatanggapin niya na napahiya siya. salita kasi ng salita, wala naman katibayan. di na lang manahimik sa kulungan niya. halatang kulang sa pansin eh.. kung talagang alam niya na gobyerno ang may gawa nun, bakit walang maipakitang katibayan? yung mga naniniwala kay trillanes, uto-uto kayo.. nagpapag*go kayo sa taong yan...
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