Topic: fugao gov wants to legalize marijuana

[chino.pasya]

Posted at 07/07/2012 12:35 AM | Updated as of 07/07/2012 2:10 AM

MANILA, Philippines – Ifugao Governor Eugene Balitang is pushing for the legalization of marijuana in the province to be used for medicinal purposes.

Balitang said the legalization should have limits.

“This can be a substitute for morphine for cancer patients, especially ‘yung hindi na talaga kaya ng pain relievers. Marijuana, if regulated, can ease the pain,” he said.

However, the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency (PDEA) rejected the governor’s proposal.

“Paano natin mare-regulate? Saan ang usage ng marijuana? Is there really a medicinal purpose sa marijuana?” said Dir. Ronald Allan Ricardo, regional director of PDEA-Cordillera Autonomous Region (CAR).

The Department of Health (DOH), meanwhile, said there has been no scientific study proving that marijuana can cure illnesses.

“Kaya nga ang marijuana ay ipinagbawal dahil mayroon siyang addictive elements. So kapag tinake ‘yan sa paninigarilyo, nakakasira ‘yan sa nervous system saka sa brain natin,” said Dr. Erwin Baclig, chief of the licensing and regulation division of DOH-CAR.

PDEA said authorities have confiscated nearly P350 million worth of marijuana in CAR from January to June this year.

In 2004, former Ifugao Congressman Solomon Chungalao also proposed that marijuana plantations be legalized but it did not push through. -- Report from Ada Sibayan, ABS-CBN News Northern Luzon







Source: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/regions/07/06/12/ifugao-gov-wants-legalize-marijuana

  

[kluverbucy]

Addict siguro yang hinayupak na yan..
Matagal din ko tumira sa baguio marijuana ang problema dyan sa baguio.. Sa mga kabataan, pati students sa baguio, sa gimikan, palengke, session road, anywhere dati nuong hindi gaano kahigpit kaya sobrang daming nakawan lalo sa mga boarding house, snatching incidents live live na tinitira ang gamit mahirap lang maki alam kasi may mga lookout sila.. Mga pang tri trip sa daan ng mga lango sa Marijuana at alak makita mo kahit sa session road lang may tumitira ng marijuana ganun k talamak dati yan, buti at naghigpit na sila sa panahong ito. Tapos gagawing legal? LOL niya..

[Magis]

Legalize MJ. If people know the significant benefits of hemp and MJ in medicine, manufacturing, and energy, they would think twice of banning this substance. It is good to know, the body produces natural cannabinoids, which governments use as a basis to ban MJ. If cannabinoids is naturally produced in our body, why should we ban an external source of it. Government should not regulate behavior. Let people decide their own risks. If it destroys their brain, then so be it. BTW, smoking weed decreases lung cancer risk, and reverses the condition....i found it hard to believe....but seeing is believing...

[Idiot]

in the Philippines people live here are undisciplined people  simple laws na lang e di kayang sundin

sample na lang

"BAWAL TUMAWID NAKAKAMATAY" and yet tatawid sila kapag nasagasaan sisihin ang Goverment sa tulong ng mass media na pinapakita na inutil ang goverment pero kung titignan mabuti may sign board na "bawal tumawid nakakamatay"

ito pa kayang marijuana na ito kung gawin legal lalo na sa medical industry callous at shrewd ang mga doctor sa atin yung ngang morphine kahit na controlled yan e may na-aadict pa din dyan lalo na MJ pa kaya.

Anything that relaxed you decreases the risk of cancer either thru
1. meditation
2. yoga
3. El shaddai or any religious faith healing activities
4. Even Drugs like MJ

If it destroys their brain, then so be it. BTW, smoking weed decreases lung cancer risk, and reverses the condition....i found it hard to believe....but seeing is believing

it's not MJ the main hero that decrease cancer risk but the body repair itself because cancer patients feel stressed and anxious all the time . They always think their loved ones or the future of their love ones, the impending death. sino ba naman di ma -stressed kung sasabihin ng doctor mo 1 month ka lang

sometimes we advised cancer patients to go to a faith healer or something religious activities kapag nakapunta sila may magsasabi na effective guminhawa ang pakiramdam nila ang di lang nila alam e di nila iniisip yung problema nila kaya sumarap ang pakiramdam same din yan sa Mari Juana

tsaka ayaw ng goverment na mag-conduct ng research like marijuana kase malaki ang kita ng mga oncologist sa mga drugs may 500k to 300k/session versus 100 piso na marijuana baka tanim mo lang sa bakuran mo tutubo pa yan  (good side)


 

[chino.pasya]

LEGALIZE. NOT LEGAL LIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eros_daizo]

sir kluverbucy,
you have a point, but baguio is not in Ifugao. Baguio is very much located in Benguet. Though you are right about what you had seen and observed while you are there. The topic say Ifugao Gov. wants to legalize MJ, I didn't see any "baguio" in there. Sorry but i'm just sayin...

[Pall-Eren-Mnr]

Legalize MJ. If people know the significant benefits of hemp and MJ in medicine, manufacturing, and energy, they would think twice of banning this substance. It is good to know, the body produces natural cannabinoids, which governments use as a basis to ban MJ. If cannabinoids is naturally produced in our body, why should we ban an external source of it. Government should not regulate behavior. Let people decide their own risks. If it destroys their brain, then so be it. BTW, smoking weed decreases lung cancer risk, and reverses the condition....i found it hard to believe....but seeing is believing...

a lot of filipinos don't know better than to smoke it like a chain smoker does to a cigarette. 

[kluverbucy]

sir kluverbucy,
you have a point, but baguio is not in Ifugao. Baguio is very much located in Benguet. Though you are right about what you had seen and observed while you are there. The topic say Ifugao Gov. wants to legalize MJ, I didn't see any "baguio" in there. Sorry but i'm just sayin...

Sir BAGUIO ng bagsakan ng MJ galing ifugao.. wala naman ibang babagsakan at marketable place kundi baguio galing ifugao provinces.

Yun na nga eh ang mahirap sige gawing legal yan.. Pero madaming irresposable na tao, yung iba gagawing pagkakitaan pa.. Dito sa pinas hindi yan pwedeng gawing legal kahit bumaligtad kapa ng patiwarik dyan, mag planking ka, mag laslas ka sa harap ng camera HINDING HINDI yan gagawing legal.

[Magis]

a lot of filipinos don't know better than to smoke it like a chain smoker does to a cigarette. 

well, isn't that the whole point of freedom? i guess it is only possible to make such a statement if we are subjecting liberties into the arbitrary abyss....

[Magis]

in the Philippines people live here are undisciplined people  simple laws na lang e di kayang sundin

sample na lang

"BAWAL TUMAWID NAKAKAMATAY" and yet tatawid sila kapag nasagasaan sisihin ang Goverment sa tulong ng mass media na pinapakita na inutil ang goverment pero kung titignan mabuti may sign board na "bawal tumawid nakakamatay"

ito pa kayang marijuana na ito kung gawin legal lalo na sa medical industry callous at shrewd ang mga doctor sa atin yung ngang morphine kahit na controlled yan e may na-aadict pa din dyan lalo na MJ pa kaya.

Anything that relaxed you decreases the risk of cancer either thru
1. meditation
2. yoga
3. El shaddai or any religious faith healing activities
4. Even Drugs like MJ

it's not MJ the main hero that decrease cancer risk but the body repair itself because cancer patients feel stressed and anxious all the time . They always think their loved ones or the future of their love ones, the impending death. sino ba naman di ma -stressed kung sasabihin ng doctor mo 1 month ka lang

sometimes we advised cancer patients to go to a faith healer or something religious activities kapag nakapunta sila may magsasabi na effective guminhawa ang pakiramdam nila ang di lang nila alam e di nila iniisip yung problema nila kaya sumarap ang pakiramdam same din yan sa Mari Juana

tsaka ayaw ng goverment na mag-conduct ng research like marijuana kase malaki ang kita ng mga oncologist sa mga drugs may 500k to 300k/session versus 100 piso na marijuana baka tanim mo lang sa bakuran mo tutubo pa yan  (good side)


 

Counter argument ku, very simple din:
1. Alcohol is a drug and its legal.... it offers some benefits, limited at 30ml in volume consumption, anything beyond that limit causes hazardous effects and alters mental state... Many deaths are directly linked to the usage of alcohol...many crimes are directly linked to alcohol.. Why is it not illegalized?

2. Cigarettes absolutely no therapeutic benefits yet it is legal. Causes millions of illnesses directly linked by the use of cigarettes. Why is it legal?

3.Why should the government be the one who decideds what risks is allowed and what is not allowed? Do they own you? Akala ku ba we are a free society... Bottomline, the principle of self-ownership should be preserved across the board, even to behaviors that are objectionable to us, is we are going to be consistent with the full context of freedom.

4. MJ has already been subjected to full scientific scrutiny and found to have OBJECTIVE MEDICINAL BENEFITS, Empirical evidences that alleviate certain diseases. We are not talking about subjective benefits like yoga, meditation.... There are no crimes or deaths directly related to MJ use, only the enforcement of its subjective illegality where violence occurs.. A clear evidence of how removing its prohibition leads to lower use and lower violence and lower transition to higher drugs is Portugal and Amsterdam...

5. Saying that Cannabis plant is bad is like saying " God, you made a mistake!"

[icer]

Tough Luck! Marijuana legal sa pilipinas? Simbahan at mga moral activist ang unang makakalaban niyo usaping iyan. And you know what happens pag simbahan na nakikialam sa isang isyu? Ni rugby nga naaabuso dito sa pinas ito pa kaya?

[Pall-Eren-Mnr]

well, isn't that the whole point of freedom? i guess it is only possible to make such a statement if we are subjecting liberties into the arbitrary abyss....

freedom is overrated. look at what it did to us to the filipino people. 

[Idiot]

1. Alcohol is a drug and its legal.... it offers some benefits, limited at 30ml in volume consumption, anything beyond that limit causes hazardous effects and alters mental state... Many deaths are directly linked to the usage of alcohol...many crimes are directly linked to alcohol.. Why is it not illegalized?

2. Cigarettes absolutely no therapeutic benefits yet it is legal. Causes millions of illnesses directly linked by the use of cigarettes. Why is it legal?

counter-argument
1. rate of addiction of MJ and any other illegal drugs is way to much faster than tobacco and alcohol
2. tobacco does not affect one's intellectual processing or decision-making ability unlike MJ or any illegal drugs
3. Puffing a MJ gives you instant effect, instant high, drinking moderate alcohol consumption still make you functional
4. MJ also called a "gateway drug" if you take MJ you will also take another illegal drugs

another thing Pork's meat, fast foods, too much salt, too much cholesterol can causes major organ problems like heart disease and cancer  following  your logic WHY IT IS ILLEGALIZED?

[Idiot]

*WHY IT IS NOT ILLEGALIZED?

walang edit button

[Magis]

freedom is overrated. look at what it did to us to the filipino people. 

no, freedom is never over rated...it is the highest political attainment of any society.... What we have is not the greatest measure of freedom...we just exchange foreign tyrants with local ones... just because the people did not make good use of something inherently good makes this good bad...

[Magis]

counter-argument
1. rate of addiction of MJ and any other illegal drugs is way to much faster than tobacco and alcohol
2. tobacco does not affect one's intellectual processing or decision-making ability unlike MJ or any illegal drugs
3. Puffing a MJ gives you instant effect, instant high, drinking moderate alcohol consumption still make you functional
4. MJ also called a "gateway drug" if you take MJ you will also take another illegal drugs

another thing Pork's meat, fast foods, too much salt, too much cholesterol can causes major organ problems like heart disease and cancer  following  your logic WHY IT IS ILLEGALIZED?

1. MJ is not as addictive as cigarette, alcohol and other drugs....and MJ is far different than other drugs.... Cannabinoids are actually readily metabolize by the body, since we produce the same substance what MJ is producing... A greater amount would result to a temporary high, but needs massive amounts to produce addiction. I'm in the medical field btw.
2. Tobacco is million times toxic, and no medical benefit can ever be derive from it. MJ showed many significant medical benefits and even produced EMPIRICAL medical evidence... The stigma on it make people avoid its discussion....that's a shame.

3. Yes, MJ has immediate effect...it relieves many conditions experienced by cancer patients... Try researching about it... its good to know, the leaders of the US way back its infant republic until 1913 are stoners... Cannabis can be used as plastic and fuel, as produced by Henry Ford's Mobile T model... Biofuel was already present way back then btw... and Cannabis was the pioneer

4. It is a gateway drug because of the ban placed on it... The tendency for people is to go underground to procure the drug, but they are also being introduced to other drugs hence the tendency to be addicted to more dangerous unpurified drugs... This is a moral problem on the part of the prohibition and a massive economic problem on part of its implementation... Portugal saw a drastic decline of drug usage of far dangerous drugs upon the upliftment of its prohibition...its counter-intuitive but the results speak for itself.


That's why im being consistent with my philosophy... Let people decide what they want to put in their bodies... It is on your part that is the problem...Do you accept the notion that the government has more rights to your body than yourself?

[Pall-Eren-Mnr]

no, freedom is never over rated...it is the highest political attainment of any society.... What we have is not the greatest measure of freedom...we just exchange foreign tyrants with local ones... just because the people did not make good use of something inherently good makes this good bad...

freedom is overrated because it can breed too much free thinking to a point that it rejected discipline in our case. regardless of our leadership, we had all the chances to learn and accept the discipline and we didn't so why put another that we are prone to abuse ? 

[Magis]

freedom is overrated because it can breed too much free thinking to a point that it rejected discipline in our case. regardless of our leadership, we had all the chances to learn and accept the discipline and we didn't so why put another that we are prone to abuse ? 

i think it is just condescending to even consider such thought.... Regardless whether other people are disciplined or not, that  doesn't make freedom any less important... Too much free thinking? I think the problem would be limited thinking, especially those that are necessary to instill one version of discipline, then that would be a Hitler style political environment. People were very disciplined.

Discipline of other people are not of your concerned, if and only if they do not transgress your natural rights. Other than that, i believe discipline from one family to another is different and can never be efficiently subscribe to anybody's version of how discipline should be.

I find it stupid to put freedom on contrast with being disciplined...honestly, think about it...its plain stupid.

[Pall-Eren-Mnr]

i think it is just condescending to even consider such thought.... Regardless whether other people are disciplined or not, that  doesn't make freedom any less important... Too much free thinking? I think the problem would be limited thinking, especially those that are necessary to instill one version of discipline, then that would be a Hitler style political environment. People were very disciplined.

Discipline of other people are not of your concerned, if and only if they do not transgress your natural rights. Other than that, i believe discipline from one family to another is different and can never be efficiently subscribe to anybody's version of how discipline should be.

I find it stupid to put freedom on contrast with being disciplined...honestly, think about it...its plain stupid.

you are only speaking on general terms, not on per situation. try relating it on the current status of the filipino mentality and say freedom didn't corrupt us. i can write a whole paragraph on how freedom corrupted us but i would digress cause it is not the point here. it's the discipline on how to use such stuff and that discipline has been eroded by freedom.

and why should i not be concerned of other people using mj when i have seen the two sides of it ? i have friends who use it and they are perfectly normal. i had friends that caused a lot of trouble before going crazy, now tell me why should i not be concerned ? cause it's not my life and it's within their rights to do so ? that's bullshit, in my opinion. i have lost many friends on being not concerned.

[Magis]

you are only speaking on general terms, not on per situation. try relating it on the current status of the filipino mentality and say freedom didn't corrupt us. i can write a whole paragraph on how freedom corrupted us but i would digress cause it is not the point here. it's the discipline on how to use such stuff and that discipline has been eroded by freedom.

and why should i not be concerned of other people using mj when i have seen the two sides of it ? i have friends who use it and they are perfectly normal. i had friends that caused a lot of trouble before going crazy, now tell me why should i not be concerned ? cause it's not my life and it's within their rights to do so ? that's bullshit, in my opinion. i have lost many friends on being not concerned.

How freedom corrupted us? On the contrary.... what corrupted us is not freedom, its the government. When Laws are crafted deviating from the protection of natural rights, laws that regulate markets, give welfare, and subsidize certain sectors, all of which are arbitrary, corrupted us... I could discourse you, point by point, on why corruption is so pervasive, and freedom is not the reason. If freedom corrupts, then would you readily live a life of subservience? I guess not... Freedom corrupts is another stupid notion..

This appeal to emotion regarding prohibition is meaningless faced with principles... Ultimately, it was your friends decision to ruin their lives or not... People who eat too much face the same problem, they ruin their lives....  People who play too much games also destroy their lives.... If we are going to be consistent with your thinking, that the government has all the right to ban something that hurts people themselves, then we should advocate for banning cholesterol rich foods, a law regulating time spent on games, etc.... that is something i detest to the very core of my being...i own myself, i decide to be healthy or to be sick... If ever a friend of mine is using drugs, which i detest personally, i can try my best to convince him...but if he proceeds in doing so, what right do i have to make him live his life according to my perspective... the same goes with government, they really don;t have the natural moral position to alter personal behavior by imposing such prohibtion. We are not the property of the government.

[Idiot]

2. Tobacco is million times toxic, and no medical benefit can ever be derive from it. MJ showed many significant medical benefits and even produced EMPIRICAL medical evidence... The stigma on it make people avoid its discussion....that's a shame.

Tobacco don't make people crazy even though  it leads to organ diseases that can be cured but sanity isn't or very difficult to cure and alcohol you still a sane person even you drink it everyday. Even what is legal or illegal you will still die and buried six feet underground

its good to know, the leaders of the US way back its infant republic until 1913 are stoners

what happen why they ban it if it produces and have a medical benefit? somethings crazy happen 

How freedom corrupted us? On the contrary.... what corrupted us is not freedom, its the government

Ohh your very right Magis

I can say you are a retard,
you  are bullshit,
you momma is whore that breed  retards like you

 so this is freedom right the government didn't told me to say this or anybody because i want to say this. So the government at fault because I have a freedom to say this words

you a whore suck my dick magis,
you are a pathetic bitch
smoke MJ and fuck you

so the Government at fault if i wanna say this. I maybe blame DepEd but the problems is they never teach this words at school what agency at fault maybe Federal government they gave us freedom

no ill-feeling bro i said that because of freedom and the government is at fault  i said that to you based on your logic

so we call your bitch, retard, mongoloid, idiot anything we please because of freedom and who corrupt freedom the Government

so blame the government

Moderator don't blame me for FLAMING WORDS blame the government because they corrupt freedom

right MAGIS

[Magis]

Tobacco don't make people crazy even though  it leads to organ diseases that can be cured but sanity isn't or very difficult to cure and alcohol you still a sane person even you drink it everyday. Even what is legal or illegal you will still die and buried six feet underground
what happen why they ban it if it produces and have a medical benefit? somethings crazy happen 

Ohh your very right Magis

I can say you are a retard,
you  are bullshit,
you momma is whore that breed  retards like you

 so this is freedom right the government didn't told me to say this or anybody because i want to say this. So the government at fault because I have a freedom to say this words

you a whore suck my dick magis,
you are a pathetic bitch
smoke MJ and fuck you

so the Government at fault if i wanna say this. I maybe blame DepEd but the problems is they never teach this words at school what agency at fault maybe Federal government they gave us freedom

no ill-feeling bro i said that because of freedom and the government is at fault  i said that to you based on your logic

so we call your bitch, retard, mongoloid, idiot anything we please because of freedom and who corrupt freedom the Government

so blame the government

Moderator don't blame me for FLAMING WORDS blame the government because they corrupt freedom

right MAGIS

You are evading the question of principle, who has the right to your own body? The concern here is whether the consumption of one good, that risks the user only, is to be prohibited by the government is a valid moral position when in fact it steps into the violation of the natural rights of that user....  Who has the sole responsibility to calculate one's risk? ultimately its the individual..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MESZh-_uyUQ&feature=related => to save you from embarassing remarks and educate yourself, its free.

I'm not offended bro, you have that right....Your uncouth mouth is still protected by freedom to express... Because the freedom to express is not purposely included in the Constitution to protect things that we agree, but rather it is there to protect unpopular speech... I'm not offended by such a low mental example... However, i think what you cited are completely beyond decency and intellectual value to be considered as a valid counter argument....

[MasterChief63]

madami daw kasi may GLAUCOMA at CANCER sa Ifugao Province

[ayantot]

para sakin, bad ang marijuana..

di dapat yan nilalantad sa mundo..
wawa naman mga magiging anak ko nyan if ok yan to public..

would you like, PH to supply marijuana?


hahahha.. anu ko bangag? hahhahaha... zoooommm.... hahahha..
gutom na ko...

         

[FerminaDaza]

Hugs not drugs,Everyone! 

epal lng po . sarap magbasa nakaka high 

Anyho,may masabe lang for the topic,am all OK for the medical benefits of MJ and i just wish people who really in need of it CAN get a hold of it legally? Hayss hirap maging bubae,am torn,i mean ,to think that human is creature of habit...SoO ohhh wait, NO.    I really don't think they can legalize it just like that 

Anyways,there's 1 good documentary about MJ xoxo ,if you want to get silly,relax,and laugh a lot.(winky face)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xYuyAFUzqpM&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fthegloss.com%2Fsex-and-dating%2Fpoll-with-bonus-retro-video-does-marijuana-sexually-excite-you-748%2F


btw,let's say hello to Ms.Hightimes


toinksss Peace out!