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Re: Pacquiao a one-dimensional amateur - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
« Reply #75 on: March 18, 2010, 11:17:23 pm »
david diaz most notable win before the pac fight was with the ghost of erik morales.

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« Reply #76 on: March 18, 2010, 11:19:50 pm »
o yun naman pala... nagkaintindihan na lahat. peace in the middle east.

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« Reply #77 on: March 18, 2010, 11:33:45 pm »
o yun naman pala... nagkaintindihan na lahat. peace in the middle east.



Not yet settled. You missed my point.

Do you agree that David Diaz had a better chance of winning against Pacquiao than Juan Manual Marquez pulling the upset against Floyd Jr.? I thought that was what you were trying to say. I mean you presented all the weights, belts but you never really compared the two fights.

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« Reply #78 on: March 18, 2010, 11:36:07 pm »
Not yet settled. You missed my point.

Do you agree that David Diaz had a better chance of winning against Pacquiao than Juan Manual Marquez pulling the upset against Floyd Jr.? I thought that was what you were trying to say. I mean you presented all the weights, belts but you never really compared the two fights.


Ahh di ko alam eh. ano sa tingin mo? ano man sa tingin mo, dun na din ako.
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« Reply #79 on: March 18, 2010, 11:49:09 pm »
You said: "gets mo? Si Pacman, umangat sa kompetisyon. title holder kagad kinalaban sa weight division na mas mataas. Si Mayweather, bumaba ng competition dahil ang kinalaban nya ay isang lightweight na umangat ng isang weight division."

So that was all useless? I thought we were comparing both fights.

Hey, its all up to you if you want to talk. You were the one who asked for attention.

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« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2010, 11:54:00 pm »
You said: "gets mo? Si Pacman, umangat sa kompetisyon. title holder kagad kinalaban sa weight division na mas mataas. Si Mayweather, bumaba ng competition dahil ang kinalaban nya ay isang lightweight na umangat ng isang weight division."

So that was all useless? I thought we were comparing both fights.

Hey, its all up to you if you want to talk. You were the one who asked for attention.

Oh yes. salamat sa atensyon. and yes useless nga.  toast:: peace in the middle east.

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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2010, 12:10:43 am »
Oh yes. salamat sa atensyon. and yes useless nga.  toast:: peace in the middle east.

Go Mayweather!

Anyway, the betting public believed more in JMM's upset than DD's. In other words, for the betting public the Pacquiao fight was more of a mismatch compared to Numero 1.

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« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2010, 12:32:16 am »
123kid can really get into your skin, doesn't it?.... ;)

but i have to applaud his enthusiasm and debating skills... :applause


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« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2010, 06:27:37 am »
123kid can really get into your skin, doesn't it?.... ;)





ahm, hindi ba at it's more like the other way around?

Nababadtrip si pareng 123kid kapag may nag diss kay Mayweather. Lalo na sa "Pacquiao is #1" at sa "Mayweather is Gay".

"Do you agree that David Diaz had a better chance of winning against Pacquiao than Juan Manual Marquez pulling the upset against Floyd Jr.? I thought that was what you were trying to say. I mean you presented all the weights, belts but you never really compared the two fights." - 123kid123

At para sa katanungan na to. It doesn't really matter now kung ano ang odds ng mga laban dahil natapos na. Pero ganito na lang

si Pacquiao - Featherweight na nilabanan ang Lightweight.

Mayweather - Welterweight na nilabanan ang Lightweight.

Boxing sya kaya anything can happen. Katulad ng pagkapanalo ni Douglas kay Tyson.

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« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2010, 06:49:13 am »
ayos sa discussion. sige. maya ko basahin sa bahay ang talakayan.
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Re: Pacquiao a one-dimensional amateur - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2010, 06:59:54 am »
SUS....

Ang masasabi ko lang...

Nainggit lang si gayweather kay pacquiao kasi di nya naisip pompyangan mga kalaban nya...

Mayweather who?? di ko nga siya naririnig masyado bago pa maghari si pacman...


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« Reply #86 on: March 19, 2010, 08:22:58 am »
Ask lang sir 123 bakit dito parang ang dami nya sinabi pero nung live interview ayaw nya sumagot? May dahilan po kaya nito?

Kasi po diba sabi nyo po uhmm.. ang pagusapan po muna eh yung laban nila ni mosley? Eh bakit ngayon malakas loob nya babuyin ung name ni Pac? Kasi po ba article interview po ba kaya madami sya pasaring sa MP side sir? O baka di sya makaisip ng mga salitang bibitawan kaya iwas sya pag Live interview.

kasi tapos na yung laban kaya kahit banggitin niya name ni pacquiao hindi niya mapropromote yung labang ni manny at clottey.

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« Reply #87 on: March 19, 2010, 08:30:44 am »
ask ko lang po pag one dimensional fighter ka lang posible bang talunin lahat ni manny ang mga talented at experienced boxer na mga nakalaban nya at posible din kaya na maabot nya ang lahat ng championship sa different division, posible ba yun?

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« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2010, 09:13:31 am »
hahaha... akala nila porket boxing fans sila,sila lang pwede mag analyze sa mga nangyayare.....  ::pampam  ::pampam  ::pampam
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« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2010, 10:23:56 am »
same with pbf, he chose to fight a small good fighter in jmm. its only right cause he just came out of retirement and wants to know if he still got it. now, he can safely say he easily beat jmm a guy that pac had troubles with.

both of them chose weaker opponents in diaz and jmm. but pbf chose the easier fight as compared with pac.

Ang problema pa dyan , sinadya pa ni Gayweather maging overweight, fanboy nalang talaga nya hindi maniniwala dyan, kaya tama lang mag demand ang Pac camp ng $10M(?) per lagpas na weight, may rason sila, nakita nilang ginawa ni Gay yun sa mas maliit sakanya para makalamang, eh yung kay Gayweather? ano rason nya? dahil natalo ni Pac mga mas malaki sa kanya?

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« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2010, 10:37:53 am »
kapag tinalo ni mosley si mayweather  d na talaga matutuloy ang pacquiao-mayweather kse si mosley na makakalaban ni pacman. d pipitsugin si mosley kaya  d nakakasiguro si mayweather. gus2 ko manalo si mosley para tapos na ang boxing

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« Reply #91 on: March 19, 2010, 01:00:49 pm »
ahm, hindi ba at it's more like the other way around?

Nababadtrip si pareng 123kid kapag may nag diss kay Mayweather. Lalo na sa "Pacquiao is #1" at sa "Mayweather is Gay".

"Do you agree that David Diaz had a better chance of winning against Pacquiao than Juan Manual Marquez pulling the upset against Floyd Jr.? I thought that was what you were trying to say. I mean you presented all the weights, belts but you never really compared the two fights." - 123kid123

At para sa katanungan na to. It doesn't really matter now kung ano ang odds ng mga laban dahil natapos na. Pero ganito na lang

si Pacquiao - Featherweight na nilabanan ang Lightweight.

Mayweather - Welterweight na nilabanan ang Lightweight.

Boxing sya kaya anything can happen. Katulad ng pagkapanalo ni Douglas kay Tyson.



Do you even know what odds are? If Marquez was +300 and Diaz was +450, then what do those numbers mean to you? Unbelievable. Damn, think man.

Anyway, Pacquiao is the no. 1 p4p. Hands down. He'd even stay there if PBF KOs SSM. No doubt.

Second, when you gave your analysis for a Pac and Floyd, you missed the most important element in Pacquiao's side and puts him over PBF: Freddie Roach. What a pea brain.
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« Reply #92 on: March 19, 2010, 01:02:59 pm »
sige, para matapos na ang away, ako na lalaban kay floyd, kahit walang drug test drug test. (joke lang po, para malighten ang thread, sana.) ::pampam

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« Reply #93 on: March 19, 2010, 01:03:08 pm »
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Re: Pacquiao a one-dimensional amateur - Floyd Mayweather Jr.
« Reply #94 on: March 19, 2010, 01:36:38 pm »
Ang problema pa dyan , sinadya pa ni Gayweather maging overweight, fanboy nalang talaga nya hindi maniniwala dyan, kaya tama lang mag demand ang Pac camp ng $10M(?) per lagpas na weight, may rason sila, nakita nilang ginawa ni Gay yun sa mas maliit sakanya para makalamang, eh yung kay Gayweather? ano rason nya? dahil natalo ni Pac mga mas malaki sa kanya?

i agree with you...

kinasa ng PAcman camp ang 10 million per pound na penalty kasi natuto na sila sa KAGULANGAN NI GAYWEATHER kay Marquez. mantakin mong anlaki na nga ng katawan, nag overweight pa samantalang galing sa mas mababang timbang si Marquez.

and the drug testing right after the fight na proposal ng Pacquiao camp.... hindi ba reasonable yun MR KNOW IT ALL(123kid)???????

i guess hindi... kasi TAKOT si CHICKEN FLOYD.... dahil alam nya na kahit mag negative ang result ng test kay Paquiao after the fight, wala na syang magagawa kasi talo na sya....

so to avoid the LOSE TO PACQUIAO, think of impossible demands para di matuloy ang laban. ::lmao ::lmao ::lmao
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« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2010, 02:29:34 pm »
I think its reasonable. Sadly, both camps got valid points and both camps misplayed their cards. My point is, Manny Pacquiao could have agreed to PBF's demand. Addionally, PBF should have lifted his demand. That's my opinion. As a fan, I dead wanted the fight to happen. In other words, I blame everyone in Team Pacquiao and Team Mayweather and their representations.

On another note, I also think both of them avoided the fight. It's really an equal fight in the sense that no one really knows who will win and the outcome will be a surprise. With that said, both of them are taking a lot of risk. They could easily take much easier fights for less money. Both of them. So how do you fix the uncertainties? Guaranteed back to back fight.

Like I said, Pacquiao will defeat Floyd and Floyd will remain the No.2 p4p even he knocks out SSM 10 seconds after the first bell. I'm only "siding" towards PBF because he is not represented well in this discussion. And I do that because like I said, I blame both fighters for not making the fight happen.

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« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2010, 07:47:18 pm »
Do you even know what odds are? If Marquez was +300 and Diaz was +450, then what do those numbers mean to you? Unbelievable. Damn, think man.

Anyway, Pacquiao is the no. 1 p4p. Hands down. He'd even stay there if PBF KOs SSM. No doubt.

Second, when you gave your analysis for a Pac and Floyd, you missed the most important element in Pacquiao's side and puts him over PBF: Freddie Roach. What a pea brain.

Wag ka naman mag start ng name calling. Isa yan sa mga ayaw mo diba? 

By the way, Ang sinasabi ko ay sa pagangat ni Pacquiao sa Lightweight, ang nilabanan nya ay title holder kagad (doesn't matter kung weak ang may hawak ng title dahil at least ang nilabanan nya ay decent fighter sa weight class na mas mataas sa kanya) habang si PBF ay nilabanan ang isang lightweight gayong isa syang welterweight. I'm not saying na hindi magaling si Marquez, ang sinasabi ko ay bakit hindi sya kumuha ng decent fighter sa welterweight para sa tune up fight nya.

Pasensya ka na kung nasaktan ang iyong kalooban.



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« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2010, 09:06:26 pm »
Wag ka naman mag start ng name calling. Isa yan sa mga ayaw mo diba? 

By the way, Ang sinasabi ko ay sa pagangat ni Pacquiao sa Lightweight, ang nilabanan nya ay title holder kagad (doesn't matter kung weak ang may hawak ng title dahil at least ang nilabanan nya ay decent fighter sa weight class na mas mataas sa kanya) habang si PBF ay nilabanan ang isang lightweight gayong isa syang welterweight. I'm not saying na hindi magaling si Marquez, ang sinasabi ko ay bakit hindi sya kumuha ng decent fighter sa welterweight para sa tune up fight nya.

Pasensya ka na kung nasaktan ang iyong kalooban.



+ 1 ako dyan.

and the one reason na nang agaw ng eksena si mosley after ng Marquez-mayweather fight is because bakit daw si Marquez ang pinili ni Gayweather samantalang bakante si Mosley?

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KUNG TALAGANG KUMPIYANSA SI PBF na siya nag p4p # 1 and he could beat anybody... di na nya kailangan ng tune up fight sa isang maliit na gaya ni Marquez...fight the best agad.

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« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2010, 09:22:58 pm »
and why does LARRY MERCHANT calls PBF a BORING fighter??? ??? ???

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« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2010, 09:29:35 pm »
Love both expressions of PBF in both screencaps...  laffman::

and IIRC Marquez was even underweight during his fight with PBF...

also, who actually believes his "injury" that caused the fight to be moved?  :D