Topic: Filipino Nurse and The New Slave Trade

[Idiot]

to Mr. Jokjok I don't get your point

Slavery is
1. force labor without compensation or benefits kung meron man konti lang
2. Maltreatment to laborers
3. discriminatory acts to laborers
4. No age limit, if you are born from a slaves automatic you'll be a slaves like the caste system in India. it's still exist

Pero anong connection ng slavery sa mga nurse abroad hindi naman slavery yun dahil ang dami nilang benefits nakahiga sila sa kama ng kaginhawaan kase kung slavery yan mamatay sila na di nakakatikim ng masarap.

Pero sa tingin ko Leftist ka kase sa USA ka lang galit
A demand in certain luxury will begin to surface,because of the thought that a dollar account is as powerful as buying anything you want.

paano na yun pound
euro
hongkong dollar
lapad
riyal
dinar
baht
Ringgit
Dirhams
Peso (mexico)

even in Peso (phil) you can buy anything you want it means we are also a slaves in our country based on your logic

tsaka anong connection ng poster sa slavery ng mga nurse misleading nga

ang gaganda ng bahay nila. yung mga anak nila nag aaral sa bigtime na school

tsaka kung kahirapan mas maganda nga na nasa abroad sila kung dito sila mag tatrabaho e wala silang mapapasukan, kung meron man ang baba ng sahod kulang sa pambayad ng utang nila

[alphaflight]

pangit nang picture, nakaka offend hindi lang sa mga nurses kundi sa mga OFW na  mga bayani natin ngayon.  Kung di kayo naniniwala na offensive ang picture nato why not e post nyo to sa lahat nang nursing school dito sa Pilipinas at ipakita sa lahat nang Filipino nurses nagtratrabaho sa labas.

just my opinion....

[MasterChief63]

Hehe,you should also understand that the image is an image.
The mere fact that you don't get the connection of every element is such a lackness on your part.
You are not a student from primary school to simply understand the relevance of the text from the image.It is just a simple logic my friend.

Why is it that your are so concerned about the "mockery" you extracted from the image.
What about the thousand of Filipinas and women being exposed on this site without their knowledge?What about their breats,nipples and cunts?
Would you care about that?
Answer me.

naku lumilipad ka na sa ibang ISSUE, EXPLOITATION of WOMEN na yung sinasama mo sa ISSUE ng OFWs specifically FILIPINO NURSES who WORK IN THE US AS SLAVES/WHORES and umpisa ng topic mo, lumalayo ka na ata lasi ibang usapan na yung pagpopost ng mga litrato at video na yun dito sa site, EXPLOTATION OF 1 kind CANNOT ENCOMPASS what in your opinion is another kind

[jokjok maton]

Hehe,you should also understand that the image is an image.
The mere fact that you don't get the connection of every element is such a lackness on your part.
You are not a student from primary school to simply understand the relevance of the text from the image.It is just a simple logic my friend.

Why is it that your are so concerned about the "mockery" you extracted from the image.
What about the thousand of Filipinas and women being exposed on this site without their knowledge?What about their breats,nipples and cunts?
Would you care about that?
Answer me.

naku lumilipad ka na sa ibang ISSUE, EXPLOITATION of WOMEN na yung sinasama mo sa ISSUE ng OFWs specifically FILIPINO NURSES who WORK IN THE US AS SLAVES/WHORES and umpisa ng topic mo, lumalayo ka na ata lasi ibang usapan na yung pagpopost ng mga litrato at video na yun dito sa site, EXPLOTATION OF 1 kind CANNOT ENCOMPASS what in your opinion is another kind

Ikaw ang malayo Bro.Ang dali lang eh di mo ma getz.
Pano malayo e andito lang tayo sa Espiya.
Hehe...

[Idiot]

malayo ang thoughts mo sa slavery

tsaka bakit ang nurse na kumikita ng tiba tiba ang tinitira mo dahil sa kanila hindi bumubulusok ang peso na maging 100 pesos = 1 dollar

ang totoo slavery ay nasa Pinas

tignan mo yung mga metro aide natin they clean and clean and clean ni di sila maka pag reklamo at konti lang ang sahod nila. kapag nag reklamo sila may posibilidad na tanggalin sila na walang due process

tignan mo yung ibang batang manual labor konti ang sahod anong ginagawa ng mga katulad ninyo na nakikita ang hindi naman madumi pero sa sariling bayan hindi nakikita ang tunay na slavery

[Gino]

So I guess you won't be boycotting this site, even for the sake of those poor Filipina women who, and let me quote: "are being exposed on this site without their knowledge?"

Pare-pareho lang naman tayong malibog dito sabay nagtuturo ka pa.

The pot calling the kettle black.

[kujaw]

ito lng masasabi ko ha...."picture (image) speaks a thousand words"....
kaya wlang katapusang debate ito.....

[MasterChief63]

Hehe,you should also understand that the image is an image.
The mere fact that you don't get the connection of every element is such a lackness on your part.
You are not a student from primary school to simply understand the relevance of the text from the image.It is just a simple logic my friend.

Why is it that your are so concerned about the "mockery" you extracted from the image.
What about the thousand of Filipinas and women being exposed on this site without their knowledge?What about their breats,nipples and cunts?
Would you care about that?
Answer me.

naku lumilipad ka na sa ibang ISSUE, EXPLOITATION of WOMEN na yung sinasama mo sa ISSUE ng OFWs specifically FILIPINO NURSES who WORK IN THE US AS SLAVES/WHORES and umpisa ng topic mo, lumalayo ka na ata lasi ibang usapan na yung pagpopost ng mga litrato at video na yun dito sa site, EXPLOTATION OF 1 kind CANNOT ENCOMPASS what in your opinion is another kind

Ikaw ang malayo Bro.Ang dali lang eh di mo ma getz.
Pano malayo e andito lang tayo sa Espiya.
Hehe...

nandito tayo sa Espiya yes but the issue of the pic only encompasses the OFW/Nurses Slavery that you claim, how the pics posted here are of no relevance to your claim

pano ako naging malayo eh lahat ng points na sinabi ko hindi lumabas sa topic

[bodieph]

very well since the people involved do not seem interested in cutting their debate and just continue to fight (it is already clear that neither of them are going to change their opinion). they are now just resorting to bashing the other person

I am going to discuss this among the other mods and request that this thread be closed already.

[manoyihay]

Nasaktan ako dun ah...... Ilang tao na ba sa Pilipinas ang pinag-aral ko, yung iba kamag-anak ko at yung iba di ko man kaanu-ano, na hindi naman ako umasa ng kabayaran. Ilang simbahan na ba ang nabigyan ko ng malaking donasyon, masaya na ako dahil sinama ako ng pari sa misa at personal niyang panalangin. Ilang tao na ba ang naipaopera ko at nailigtas ko ang buhay. At ilang tao na ba ang naibigyan ko ng maayos na libing. Sa darating na Pasko ay ikalabing dalawang taon na kaming namimigay ng groceries sa mga mahihirap na kapitbahay namin, 250 pamilya yun.

Ganito lang pala ang tingin ng ibang tao sa amin..........

Di bale, tuloy lang ang trabaho at tuloy ang tulong sa kapwa tao ko. Kung di mo man malampasan ang mga nagawa ko sa kapwa mo, mapantayan mo man lang sana.

"Nurse po - UCLA"

saludo ako sa'yo ka espiyang Don salamat sa pagtulong mo sa ating mga kababayang nanga-ngailangan ng tulong. 

[Gino]

Going house-to-house on all the nursing schools to promote the image is too troublesome.

Better yet, let him post the work of art on his primary accounts, along with his other current works. That way we'll know how sincere he really is.

[jokjok maton]

So I guess you won't be boycotting this site, even for the sake of those poor Filipina women who, and let me quote: "are being exposed on this site without their knowledge?"

Pare-pareho lang naman tayong malibog dito sabay nagtuturo ka pa.

The pot calling the kettle black.

Hello Mr.Jake Landicho,
I guess hindi mo kaanu ano si Prof.Landicho.
Well,just answer me.
Is your nationalistic tendencies lost?

Mind you,wala akong post dito maliban sa image na naka post ngayon.
"Connect me if Im wrong",hehe.

First time kong mag post.

[MasterChief63]

is this SLAVERY as you claim it to be, after my mom works a 12hour shift wants to come home have dinner with her family and watch TFC on a 67" Samsung DLP, i guess i don't have to redefine SLAVERY kasi paulit ulit na lang, thats my gradpic nga pala on the rightside of the fireplace, can a slave actually earn a fair living based on its definition and even see the "fruits of labor"?

the point of your post is SLAVERY, FORCED WORK WITH UNFAIR OR NO COMPENSATION

[ragnaogurat]

Nurses are well compensated, well respected and well recognized abroad, there patient's care is incomparable to other nationalities, in other words they are not slaves.  On the contrary they are slaves in their own land, why? because nurses working in the Philippines are receiving in-humane amount of salary, exploited number of working hours and rude treatment from superiors, that you can call slavery.  To sum it all up, not only nurses are slaves, all filipinos are slaves... dahil... ANG BANSANG MAHIRAP HINDI TUNAY NA MALAYA...

[jokjok maton]

very well since the people involved do not seem interested in cutting their debate and just continue to fight (it is already clear that neither of them are going to change their opinion). they are now just resorting to bashing the other person

I am going to discuss this among the other mods and request that this thread be closed already.

Parang summary execution yan Bro.
Bakit hindi mo hayaan ang lahat na mag express ng insights nila.
Kung puputulin mo ito,parang gusto mo lang gawin usap usapan ay ang mga babae sa website na ito.
Bakit hindi harapan ang realidad ng buhay bro.
As long as walang sakitan,discussion must go on.

[Kal-El]

tanong lang ha...isn't slavery forced bondage? So why would nurses or nursing for that matter, which is composed of men and women who FREELY CHOSE to work outside the country be seen as slaves? Now, like someone who mentioned earlier, if its about wage slavery, then that's a different issue altogether. We are all slaves to earning money to survive. But as long as there is freedom to choose where to work, when to work, and what to work as, then it is not slavery...  

[marteniko]

if you don't mind me asking jokjok, how much do you earn??

P8,000 a month and happy.

BRO, P8,000.00 A MONTH IS NOT LEGAL. 380.00/DAY. MEANING KINAGAT MO YUNG GANITONG AMOUNT??? GALING MO PA NAMANG MAG-ENGLISH. ANG ALAM KO SA SLAVE YUNG "TINATANGGAP" KAHIT LABAG SA LOOB. ABA E, KAHIT TAGA-TIGTIG NG KALAWANG SA PRESINTO DOS SA TUTUBAN MAS MALAKI PA SAYO ANG KITA. YOU CANNOT PUT THAT KIND OF OPINION. KAHIT ANO ANG GAWIN NG MGA NURSES NATIN, KANILA YUN, HINDI SAYO.   E KUNG SABIHIN KO SAYO NA YUNG KUMIKITA NG P8,000.00 E NALOLOKO LANG, FORCED TO WORK, KASAMA KA DOON DIBA? SLAVES OF TODAY WILL BE THE TYRANT OF TOMORROW.

[Idiot]

@kujaw

hindi naman picture but the interpretation ng thread starter na slaves daw ang mga nurse na kumikita ng milyon.

Ang interpretation ko dyan sa picture na yan
Because naiinggit ang pinoy sa kapwa pinoy kahit na di nila kayang papag aralin ang mga anak nila ng nursing dahil sa dolyar o kasakiman nagiging mahirap ang buhay nila kahit di nila kaya pilit nilang kinakaya at dahil dito hindi sila nakakaisip ng maayos at sila ay lalong naghihirap 


Nationalistic?

alam ba ninyo na si Daniel Dingel na imbentor ng water fueled car lumapit yan sa mga Leftist para humingi ng suporta. Alam ba ninyo kung anong nangyari tinanggihan siya kase yung financier ng mga leftist ayaw din sa kanyang imbesyon

[Gino]

So I guess you won't be boycotting this site, even for the sake of those poor Filipina women who, and let me quote: "are being exposed on this site without their knowledge?"

Pare-pareho lang naman tayong malibog dito sabay nagtuturo ka pa.

The pot calling the kettle black.

Hello Mr.Jake Landicho,
I guess hindi mo kaanu ano si Prof.Landicho.
Well,just answer me.
Is your nationalistic tendencies lost?

Mind you,wala akong post dito maliban sa image na naka post ngayon.
"Connect me if Im wrong",hehe.

First time kong mag post.

Never heard of him. And btw, Jake Landicho is just my cyber ego. You're going to have to do better than that to know who I really am. I applaud you for finding my Friendster/Fakester though. It never fails to catch em hahaha.

And why do you have to lie about this being your first post at Espiya? What about your posts about Betis? And the others below:

http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,44108.0.html
http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,69844.0.html

So how about it? Are you willing to post the said picture in your other accounts like at wetpaint, betterphotos, and such, just to show your sincerity and good faith?

[MasterChief63]

very well since the people involved do not seem interested in cutting their debate and just continue to fight (it is already clear that neither of them are going to change their opinion). they are now just resorting to bashing the other person

I am going to discuss this among the other mods and request that this thread be closed already.

Parang summary execution yan Bro.
Bakit hindi mo hayaan ang lahat na mag express ng insights nila.
Kung puputulin mo ito,parang gusto mo lang gawin usap usapan ay ang mga babae sa website na ito.
Bakit hindi harapan ang realidad ng buhay bro.
As long as walang sakitan,discussion must go on.

unfortunately verbal abuse or insults are prohibitted, sakitan diba kaya the mods have the right to close the thread for rule violation

[Gino]

So I guess you won't be boycotting this site, even for the sake of those poor Filipina women who, and let me quote: "are being exposed on this site without their knowledge?"

Pare-pareho lang naman tayong malibog dito sabay nagtuturo ka pa.

The pot calling the kettle black.

Hello Mr.Jake Landicho,
I guess hindi mo kaanu ano si Prof.Landicho.
Well,just answer me.
Is your nationalistic tendencies lost?

Mind you,wala akong post dito maliban sa image na naka post ngayon.
"Connect me if Im wrong",hehe.

First time kong mag post.

Never heard of him. And btw, Jake Landicho is just my cyber ego. You're going to have to do better than that to know who I really am. I applaud you for finding my Friendster/Fakester though. It never fails to catch em hahaha.

And why do you have to lie about this being your first post at Espiya? What about your posts about Betis? And the others below:

http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,44108.0.html
http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,69844.0.html

So how about it Mr. Ruston O. Banal Jr? Are you willing to post the said picture in your other accounts like at wetpaint, betterphotos, and such, just to show your sincerity and good faith? You did say that you want everyone to be aware of the plight of our poor slave nurses.

[rydhel1016]

Hmmmm,

first of many points

Looking at the entirety of the image, hindi gagana kung ang panglaban natin eh yung DOLLARS at PLASMA TVs at kung ilan ang napag-aral nang nurses abroad. See, sa image pa lang, malalaman mo na na the artist looks at nurses as the sources of LOTSACASH, and HIGHTECH pasalubongs.

It must mean that the artist looks at slavery in a different way.

[jokjok maton]

So I guess you won't be boycotting this site, even for the sake of those poor Filipina women who, and let me quote: "are being exposed on this site without their knowledge?"

Pare-pareho lang naman tayong malibog dito sabay nagtuturo ka pa.

The pot calling the kettle black.

Hello Mr.Jake Landicho,
I guess hindi mo kaanu ano si Prof.Landicho.
Well,just answer me.
Is your nationalistic tendencies lost?

Mind you,wala akong post dito maliban sa image na naka post ngayon.
"Connect me if Im wrong",hehe.

First time kong mag post.

Never heard of him. And btw, Jake Landicho is just my cyber ego. You're going to have to do better than that to know who I really am. I applaud you for finding my Friendster/Fakester though. It never fails to catch em hahaha.

And why do you have to lie about this being your first post at Espiya? What about your posts about Betis? And the others below:

http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,44108.0.html
http://espiya.net/forum/index.php/topic,69844.0.html

So how about it? Are you willing to post the said picture in your other accounts like at wetpaint, betterphotos, and such, just to show your sincerity and good faith?

Now you are knowing me even better My schoolmate.But you have to do better.
You mean my reply to the post?
Yes,I replied.But what I was referring is the uploading of pictures.

Allow the thread to continue and let the others speak about the matter.
Afterall,we are entitled to our own opinion.

[Gino]

Now you are knowing me even better My schoolmate.But you have to do better.
You mean my reply to the post?
Yes,I replied.But what I was referring is the uploading of pictures.

Allow the thread to continue and let the others speak about the matter.
Afterall,we are entitled to our own opinion.

You do know that I am in no position to decide whether the thread continues or not.

I have a splendid idea: why not make a site about this, and donate the AdSense and Double Click revenues to our poor slave nurses so they won't have to be slaves anymore?

[jokjok maton]

Now you are knowing me even better My schoolmate.But you have to do better.
You mean my reply to the post?
Yes,I replied.But what I was referring is the uploading of pictures.

Allow the thread to continue and let the others speak about the matter.
Afterall,we are entitled to our own opinion.

You do know that I am in no position to decide whether the thread continues or not.

I have a splendid idea: why not make a site about this, and donate the AdSense and Double Click revenues to our poor slave nurses so they won't have to be slaves anymore?

Great idea.
You fund it.I'll do it.
Perhaps we can make a foundation out of it.