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[moved] Sex Education - High School Curriculum
« on: June 29, 2006, 10:07:18 am »
Are you against or in favor of the plan of the Dept Ed to implement SexEd among highschool students...

It draws flak especially from the CBCP and other conservative institutions, what can you say about it...

Me im in favor to sex ed to be included.. simplu because as they say, EDUCATION IS ENLIGHTENMENT

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2006, 02:01:33 pm »
i am in favor din....

i mean, everyone's aware naman of sex, even at a young age....

one proof can be seen sa confession room palang, na some, even at the young age of 13 or even younger hav experienced it na....

n we hav to face reality naren.....

kids nowadays are not like kids 30 years ago....

they think differently, and even act more mature....


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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2006, 09:13:23 pm »
agree ako nyan...
bago yan inimplement may masusing pag-aaral nito gaya ng edad ng mga bata kung kaya ba ng kanilang isipan ang mga ganyan at yung mga psychological effect...so far highschool mabubuntis na yan... mas grabeh ang urge nyan...sa batch ko nga ehhh may 5 na nabuntis....kahit may sex ed...hehehehhe
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2006, 12:56:15 am »
I agree.  If we cant stop these young students in engaging into sexual act outside marriage which i think at this time an uncontrollable matter or shall I say beyond the parents control, we better teach them on the necessary things they should know as an outcome of their actions, its the obligation of the elders to let them aware on its consequences. 

Thats why its better that Sex Education will be included in High School curriculum.  As what you said mr. foreveryoung, it could open their eyes on the realities, may not stop the act itself but will enlightend them.

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2006, 04:22:53 am »
i do not agree.. kc sakakaturo nila ng sex education.. macucurious ang mga estudyante, at ang mga youth pa nman ngaun medyo mhilig magadventure, dhil napaka liberated na ng panahon ntin... may chance na maisipan nilang itry ito.. ok na khit na wlang sex education sa school, dhil ang sex education ay kalat na khit saan, sa dyaryo, sa tv sa radio, etc. dhil baka sa araw-araw na pagtuturo nito, maisipan pang gawin ng mga estudyante ito..

mas ok pra skin kungmagulang na lang ang magtuturo sa knilang anak, atleast alam nila na tama at totoo ang sinasabi ng magulang, kumpara sa school na minsan ay namimislead sila,

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2006, 01:01:03 am »
you have a point there seek, pero sometimes kc wala nang oras ung mga magulang para kausapin at turuan ang kanilang mga anak, most of the parents now are both working para ma sustain ung financial requirements ng family, sometimes both parents nasa abroad pa nagtatrabaho. kaya maganda na rin na matutunan nila sa school ung dapat nilang matutunan tungkol sa sex...

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Re: [moved] Sex Education - High School Curriculum
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2006, 01:58:00 am »
Sir seek and strike, well your point is well taken..

Consider this....

if there is sex ed in HS - 3 out of 10 gets preggy

if there is no sex ed and the responsiblity solely by parents - 6 out of 10 gets preggy.

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Re: [moved] Sex Education - High School Curriculum
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2006, 04:56:19 am »
I think, there is no problem if they will add it to the high school curriculum...
But they must be a restriction...........

Actually, you cannot control teenage right now.......because of our environment!
There is too much reason for this one...........
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2006, 05:23:47 am »
you have a point there seek, pero sometimes kc wala nang oras ung mga magulang para kausapin at turuan ang kanilang mga anak, most of the parents now are both working para ma sustain ung financial requirements ng family, sometimes both parents nasa abroad pa nagtatrabaho. kaya maganda na rin na matutunan nila sa school ung dapat nilang matutunan tungkol sa sex...

tama nga po kayo sir greenjoseph, pro in the first place hindi po excuse ung nasa abroad ang parents, closer relatives will do. kesa nman po sa mga teacher, na minsan eh' may pagnanasa pa sa mga teen students, no way.

Sir seek and strike, well your point is well taken..

Consider this....

if there is sex ed in HS - 3 out of 10 gets preggy

if there is no sex ed and the responsiblity solely by parents - 6 out of 10 gets preggy.

So whre do u stand....

sir foreveryoung, is this true or accurate? hindi pa nman po nasisimulan db? well hindi pa din ako, pabor sa sex education to be included in HS curriculum, mamaya ung mga magjowa na HS eh' magsex pa,

tsaka tignan nyo po, ang magsyotang teen, ung lalake, magrerequest na magsex sila ng gf nya, syempre ung gf nya ayaw.. e kung sabihin ng lalake na, "ganito nman, tinuro nman nila mam or sir, na safe nman kung gnitong process ang gagawin natin, magcocondom nman ako, tska sbi nila mam at sir db, halos kalahati ng mga youth ngaun eh' involved na sa sex? so try na natin, ganito ganyan...."so may chance na bumigay ung girl... mas madami ng rason ang mga lalake ngaun nyan.. hehehehe

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2006, 06:34:02 am »
tama nga po kayo sir greenjoseph, pro in the first place hindi po excuse ung nasa abroad ang parents, closer relatives will do. kesa nman po sa mga teacher, na minsan eh' may pagnanasa pa sa mga teen students, no way.

sir foreveryoung, is this true or accurate? hindi pa nman po nasisimulan db? well hindi pa din ako, pabor sa sex education to be included in HS curriculum, mamaya ung mga magjowa na HS eh' magsex pa,

tsaka tignan nyo po, ang magsyotang teen, ung lalake, magrerequest na magsex sila ng gf nya, syempre ung gf nya ayaw.. e kung sabihin ng lalake na, "ganito nman, tinuro nman nila mam or sir, na safe nman kung gnitong process ang gagawin natin, magcocondom nman ako, tska sbi nila mam at sir db, halos kalahati ng mga youth ngaun eh' involved na sa sex? so try na natin, ganito ganyan...."so may chance na bumigay ung girl... mas madami ng rason ang mga lalake ngaun nyan.. hehehehe
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hahaha lulusot ka talaga seek ha, bakit parang may kinakatakutan ka, o may naexperience ka ba? hehehe joke lang...

anyway, again u have a point there, pero i dont think having a close relative is enough para maturuan o magkaroon ng enough na kaalaman ang mga bata ngayon, think about this, kung may mga teacher na may pagnanasa sa kanilang mga estudyante,  im sure marami naring mga close relatives or uncle, older cousins, even brothers na may pagnanasa sa mga teenage girls, marami nang nangyayari na ganyan, parang naging normal na sa society natin yan, i could cite an example, dun sa brother ko na nabuntisan niya 2nd cousin namin na i think 10years younger sa kanya, at hindi lang isang beses dalawang beses pa hehehe.

kaya mahirap na, i think teachers still are the best person we can rely on with regards to this concern.  Payag ka na hehehe. Plano ko pa namang maging Sex Education teacher... :D

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Re: [moved] Sex Education - High School Curriculum
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2006, 06:57:09 am »
Sir Seek, your point is well taken......

consider this again..... granted that both sexes knows both the advantages and disadvantage of sex, they learned it either in the school or in any form you think/consider whre u can obtain any information.. then the male said ganon pala defer ko muna ung sex likewise with the opposite sex, they are now enlighten against their curiosity about the subject and they can mull over before making any moves, so they both prevent occurences of sex (thay may lead to any unwanted pregrancies , sakit etc)

so out of 10 what i have said b4, (5X and 5Y)  based on example above 1X and 1Y ay at least save...


Consider this, out of curiosity and without any enlightenment, without any basic information or have little information, both sexes will have to try sex kasi ao kaya subukan natin ano kaya mangyayari, so may roon cilang hinahanap na missing link, to find out , they have to experience and LO and behold, buntis ci babae, and finally ay ganito pala un..

so out of 10 what i have sadi b4, (5X and 5Y) based on example above 5X and 5Y ay nabuntis...

the mere point is AWARENESS among youth and again EDUCATION IS ENLIGHTENMENT

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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2006, 01:23:21 am »
wow! gagling nman nila sir greenjoseph at sir foreveryoung, well i guess, i go for that EDUCATION IS ENLIGHTENMENT... (as for sex education on HS curriculum) but only 70/100%...

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Re: [moved] Sex Education - High School Curriculum
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2006, 12:54:36 am »
Something to ponder about from manila bulletin

LETS TALK ABOUT SEX
 
By RONALD S. LIM

In a Catholic country such as ours, the topic of sex either draws titters of nervous laughter, or scandalized glares. No middle ground seems to exist. You are either an overly promiscuous, ill-mannered and uneducated lout, or an ultra-conservative, convent-bred spinster whose mindset has remained firmly entrenched in 1611 Philippines.


Recently, Pampanga prelate and Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines-Episcopal Commission on Family and Life (CBCP-ECFL) chairman Archbishop Paciano Aniceto assailed the Department of Education (DepEd) for its attempt to "quietly smuggle" sex education into various high school subjects under the ??name?? of adolescent reproductive health and reproductive rights.

This was then followed by allegations by sex education expert Filipina Ra?ada that the DepEd had been planning to "fully institutionalize" sex education in the country through its modules for the current schoolyear.

The modules, according to Ra?ada, would have Grade 5 students bringing eggplants, cucumbers and bananas to school so they could be taught proper condom usage.

The resulting brouhaha this caused among conservative parents and pro-life groups eventually forced the DepEd to drop any plans of including sex education or reproductive health in its high school curriculum, thereby preserving the "moral and spiritual well-being" of the country?s youth, to quote Archbishop Aniceto.

On the other, those who are for sex education and reproductive health in schools say that it is needed now more than ever.

In its Young Adult Fertility Survey, the University of the Philippines? Population Institute revealed that in 2002, more than three million youths are engaging in premarital sex all over the country, a five percent increase from 1994.

More disturbing is the fact that a lot of these young people would not be able to distinguish between a condom and an intrauterine device.

In a study conducted last year by the Foundation for Adolescent Development, in coordination with the United Nations Population Fund, it was revealed that while more and more Filipino adolescents were engaging in premarital sex, a lot of them had a very distorted notion of what sexuality and reproductive health is about. Their knowledge of contraceptives and sexually transmitted diseases were sketchy at best, and depressing at its worst.


A DOCTOR?S VIEWPOINT

In a predominantly Catholic Philippines, is it really possible to educate our youth about their reproductive health and their sexuality without running afoul of the Church?s teachings? Some people think it is possible, if the church would only try.

Connie (not her real name) is a gynecologist in a private Manila hospital and a very devout Catholic. During the course of her job, she has seen an increase in the number of teenage pregnancies, and has often expressed her frustration at what she views is the Church?s outdated stand on reproductive health.

"The Church doesn?t allow tubal ligations and yet I do it, because you can?t just let these children keep on having kids of their own. I?m committing a sin every time I do this, and every time I have to go to confession," Connie admits.

Reactions from priests who have heard her confession have ranged from those who have quietly advised her to keep this to herself, to those who have shouted and berated her for her actions.

Connie says she was born a Catholic and intends to die a Catholic but that she also intends to go on performing ligations. She can?t help but express a bit of frustration at the Church?s stand on sex education and reproductive health.

"The Catholic Church is too conservative, they can?t move on," she says. "Their views are no longer realistic. How can you tell somebody from the squatter?s area not to sleep together during the woman?s fertile period, when they?re all sleeping beside each other in crowded houses? Add to that the fact that a woman?s fertile periods are not always regular."

The moves by the Catholic Church not only draw the ire of pro-choice groups, she says, but also alienates it from the youth in its flock, most of whom no longer have a grasp of the basic tenets of the Church?s teachings anyway.

"My patients don?t follow and don?t believe the Church?s teachings," she says with resignation. "They attend Mass, they take communion, but these rituals have no meaning to them. How do you expect them to understand the Church?s view on sex?"


PROMOTING PROMISCUITY?

If you ask the Church and other Catholics, that?s something that the parents should be doing.

Thirty five-year old Fr. Roy Hedreyda Alipio is a priest at the Our Lady of Loreto Parish in the Bustillos area. He believes that in general sexuality and the topics pertaining to it should be taught by parents, who after all know their children better than any teacher would.

"Parents should be the ones to teach and expound on sexuality to their children," he says, "The school shouldn?t act as the main source of information, but rather as a supplement."

Jude Galford, 29 years old and a reporter for the Manila Bulletin, also believes that for children below 18, it is the parents who should teach their children or decide whether they want their kids to be exposed to such knowledge.

"If the parents want their children to be sex educated, there would be a clamor for it," he says. "There?s no clamor for it right now, so the best thing would be for the children to receive it at home."

Both don?t think that this is a sign of the Church being old-fashioned or being out of touch, but rather the Church just doing its job. Both are also doubtful about the DepEd?s capacity to properly instruct the Filipino youth regarding the sexuality and reproductive health.

"In what context are they teaching sex education anyway?" asks Fr. Alipio. "If we?re talking about teenage pregnancies, this is solely the responsibility of the parent and the person. If the root cause of this is the population explosion, and the government?s way of controlling the population, I don?t think that?s good either. Sexuality, and its responsibilities, should still be taught by the parents."

Galford even questions whether the Church had anything to do with the DepEd?s retraction of its sex education modules and materials in the first place.

"I think that the DepEd withdrew their materials not because of the church but simply because their material is crap," he asserts. "When it comes to things coming from the DepEd, I think it?s the right move to pull out their materials because I have no confidence in their materials."

Galford also says that it is not foolish to think that teaching sex education will promote promiscuity among the youth.

"There is an assumption with sex education that people will have sex. Why teach reading when people are not going to read? Why teach sex ed when people don?t want to have sex?" he says. "The context of sex according to the Church is that it should happen between man and wife. I came from the seminary, and that?s also my context for sex. In today?s context, the secular world believes that so long as the boyfriend and girlfriend want it, they should do it without regards to their age or their reasons for doing so. I think sex education will promote promiscuity because it will arouse their curiosity."


FINDING A COMPROMISE

Connie, Galford, and Fr. Alipio point to either the Church or State with not doing enough to properly arm today?s youth with the knowledge to tackle their future reproductive concerns.

"The assumption that the youth will have sex is true, but what the state is doing is tolerating this, telling the kids to have sex even if they are young," says Galford. "The Church says this is wrong because sex should be done in the context of marriage."

Connie says that waiting for marriage is something easier said than done, that it is a piece of advice that is woefully out of touch with today?s youth.

"I used to tell my patients the same thing, but they always tell me ?madaling sabihin, pero mahirap gawin,?" she says. "Today?s youth is much more aggressive. You tell them not to do something and they?ll go ahead and do it."

The three also have different ideas as to at what age and how our children should be taught about the facts of life. Galford believes that sex education should be an elective course in college, to be offered to students 18 years old and above.

"At 18, children already have the legal options, they can get married, and their minds are fully formed. They can make choices that 15 year olds aren?t necessarily equipped to make," he says. "Seeing as most of us are Catholics, the moral authority of the Church carries as long as the child is concerned. At 18, they are now legally equipped to make that choice for themselves."

Fr. Alipio says that the community should work with the parents to teach their children, and that the environment should be taken into consideration as to when this should be done.

"In Manila, because the children are exposed to many things, they have to be taught sexuality at a different age than those in the province," he says. "Community involvement is also important, in such a way that they do not highlight sexual deviations, such as abuse, but instead tackle it in a caring environment. The community has to monitor things like these so that there is a greater understanding of sexuality."

Connie says that rather than harp about the government?s handling of sex education, the Church should instead actively work with the DepEd to come up with a curriculum that teaches sex education without it having to run contrary to current Church teaching.

"It?s possible to have sex education classes without bringing up contraception, if the Church would only try," she asserts. "Rather than just blindly telling these children not to engage in sex, we should tell them why engaging in sex before marriage could be detrimental not only to them but to their babies and the community. Sex isn?t just about the act and the organs. You have to tell these kids what will happen to them when they get pregnant at a very young age when they?re lives are far from stable."
 
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 01:56:59 am »
I think we need to educate them regarding sex. Kaya nga sa sobrang curiosity ng mga tao ngayon dyan na napapahamak lalo na when in comes to sex. They are curious sa sex pero they are not aware when it comes sa safety. Kaya tingnan mo ang society ntin, time na para ipamulat at ipaalam sa knila ang tunay na kahilugan ng sex, di nala basta----tapos di na alam ang sunod na gagawin. Problema pa ito ng government ntin pag di na aksyonan agad. Just like taking medical courses tipong ganon. Cguro nman madali lang nilang ma absorb since liberal na ang mga tao sa panahon ngayon.

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 07:49:51 am »


well...... when we said sex education ano ba ang iniicp natin na education?? about sex?? what kind of sex and ituturo??????????

My point here,  there is nothing wrong na ituro ang sex education sa high school but we need to know the COVERAGE na sex education na ito.......  we need to know the limitations kc hindi pwede lahat lahat ituro sa high school (example ang proper ng pag gamit ng condom??) Sa high school di pwede ituro yun dba so the best thing here eh mag bigay ng proper coverage and dept ed kung ano ang ituturo under "sex education program"

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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2006, 03:11:24 am »
Dear Sir xxxxkenxxxxx.... your query...


Sex education meant to address HIV/AIDS, unwanted pregnancies ? UNFPA
By Sandy Araneta
The Philippine Star 07/15/2006

The controversial sex education module, currently being reviewed after the Department of Education (DepEd) stopped its pilot testing in public schools in Metro Manila, was meant to address the health concerns of in-school adolescents exposed to risky behavior, a representative of the United Nations Fund on Population Activities (UNFPA) said.

In a message included in the module, called Lesson Guides on Adolescent Reproductive Health (A Population Education Concept), Dr. Zahidul Huque, UNFPA representative, said it was originally made to address the reproductive health concerns of youths who are increasingly exposed to risky behavior, including early sexual activity, smoking, drinking and illegal drugs with damaging and long-term consequences.

The 84-page module, with a six-page prologue, was prepared and published by the Department of Education, the DepEd?s Bureau of Secondary Education (BSE), and TRIDEV Specialists Foundation Inc., in cooperation with the (UNFPA) and the David and Lucille Packard Foundation.

Huque said the lesson guides are meant to give information to students in secondary schools and is one of the contributions of the Philippine government in the effort to meet the goals of the International Conference on Population and Development (ICPD) Program of Action.

Huque said they hope to see this document adopted, utilized down to the district school levels, and its impact evaluated after at least a year of implementation.

"In doing so, we help empower our young people with appropriate and right information on reproductive health that will play a role in addressing the increasing HIV/AIDS prevalence among this age group, which is one of the goals of the Millennium Declaration," said Huque.

A copy of the module was distributed to the media recently to show that the education department has nothing to hide in this controversial issue.

UNFPA envisions a partnership with the DepEd under the sixth Country Program in creating an adolescent-friendly policy environment in its continuing effort to make the educational system more responsive to the reproductive health needs of the young, added Huque.

The lesson guide, he said, is a pioneering work that integrates the health concerns of adolescents in selected secondary curricula using the life skills-based approach. It was written in Filipino and English and was designed as teaching guides for public high school teachers.

In the module?s foreword, DepEd officer-in-charge Undersecretary Fe Hidalgo said that reproductive health is a state of complete physical, mental and social well-being.

It is a common observation, however, that the reproductive health needs of adolescents have been largely ignored by reproductive health service providers, she said.

Hidalgo stressed that the reproductive health needs of this group should be based on information that would help them attain a level of maturity required to make responsible decisions.

"Information and services should be made available to adolescents to help them understand their sexuality and protect them from unwanted pregnancies, sexually transmitted infections and subsequent risk of infertility. Young men, therefore, should learn to respect young women?s self-determination and share responsibility with women in matters of sexuality and reproduction," said Hidalgo.

The prototype lesson plans to integrate population education concepts in Health, Araling Panlipunan, Technology and Livelihood Education, Science, English and Filipino and which were based on the Population Education Curriculum.

"The lessons were carefully crafted so they will naturally blend with the lessons/competencies of the mother area. While these are prototype lesson plans, the activities are suggestive not prescriptive. The teacher is free to inject activities that she/he thinks is appropriate to the age, interest and capability of the students," explained Hidalgo.
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« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2006, 04:32:17 am »
for me....i would go for legal rights education for males and females sa HS nad Elem...pra lam waware sila na harrased sila or violated.

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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2006, 01:19:29 am »
for me....i would go for legal rights education for males and females sa HS nad Elem...pra lam waware sila na harrased sila or violated.


Good idea, too... sir... hope this idea was formulated and incorporated...
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Re: [moved] Sex Education - High School Curriculum
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2007, 07:57:50 pm »
ung mga conservative na yan... kya ayaw kc wla silang pag asang magkaroon ng sex life...