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Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« on: June 19, 2007, 01:11:51 am »
spies,cno sa tingin nyo ang pinakamagaling at most dominant center whoever played in the nba?? some think c wilt bcoz of the numerous records he set,some are even unbreakable already..or is it shaq simply bcoz of his size and strength?


SHAQUILLE O'Neal
NBA highlights
Named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History in 1996 (youngest player on the list and only active player remaining from the list; Shaq was only in his fourth season when he received this honor).
NBA Most Valuable Player: 2000
2-time The Sporting News NBA Most Valuable Player: 2000, 2005
4-time NBA Champion: 2000, 2001, 2002, 2006
3-time NBA Finals MVP: 2000, 2001, 2002
14-time NBA All-Star: 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007
2-time NBA All-Star Game MVP: 2000, 2004
13-time All-NBA:
First Team: 1998, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006
Second Team: 1995, 1999
Third Team: 1994, 1996, 1997
3-time All-Defensive:
Second Team: 2000, 2001, 2003
NBA Rookie of the Year: 1993
The Sporting News NBA Rookie of the Year: 1993
NBA All-Rookie First Team: 1993
2-time NBA regular-season leader, points per game: 1995 (29.3), 2000 (29.7)
3-time NBA regular-season leader, total points: 1995 (2315), 1999 (1289), 2000 (2344)
5-time NBA regular-season leader, field goals made: 1994 (953), 1995 (930), 1999 (510), 2000 (956), 2001 (813)
9-time NBA regular-season leader, field goal %: 1994 (.599), 1998 (.584), 1999 (.576), 2000 (.574), 2001 (.572), 2002 (.579), 2004 (.584), 2005 (.601), 2006 (.600)

[edit] Accomplishments/milestones
Joins Wilt Chamberlain as the only players in NBA history to lead the league in field goal percentage for
nine seasons
five consecutive seasons (1998–2002)
Only player in NBA history to:
average at least 20 points per game and 10 rebounds per game in a season for 13 consecutive seasons, surpassing Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Hakeem Olajuwon, all with 12 consecutive seasons.
reach 4,900 points, 2,300 rebounds, 500 assists, 400 blocks, and 100 steals in his playoff career while shooting at least 55% from the field.
One of three players in NBA history to be selected to the NBA All-Star Game for 14 consecutive seasons; the others are Jerry West and Karl Malone.
One of three players in NBA history to reach 24,500 points, 11,000 rebounds, 2,600 assists, and 2,400 blocks in his career (the others are Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Hakeem Olajuwon; note that the NBA did not record blocked shots as an official statistic until the 1973-1974 season).
One of seven players in NBA history to reach 25,000 points and 10,000 rebounds in his career (the others are Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Hakeem Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Elvin Hayes,Karl Malone and Wilt Chamberlain).
One of four players in NBA history to be awarded the NBA Finals MVP three times (the others are Magic Johnson (3), Tim Duncan (3), and Michael Jordan (6) [4])
Joins Michael Jordan as the only players in NBA history to win three consecutive NBA Finals MVP awards (2000, 2001, 2002)
Surpassed the career 25,000-point mark against the New York Knicks on February 26, 2007.
NBA playoff records (12):
Most free throws attempted, all-time: 2,177 (1994–present)
Most free throws missed, all-time: 1,014 (1994–present)
Most free throws attempted, half: 27 (May 20, 2000 vs. Portland Trail Blazers)
Most free throws attempted, quarter: 25 (May 20, 2000 vs. Portland Trail Blazers)
Most offensive rebounds, all-time: 816 (1994–present)
NBA Finals (11):
Most points scored in a four-game series: 145 (NBA Finals 2002)
Most free throws made in a four-game series: 45 (NBA Finals 2002)
Most free throws attempted in a four-game series: 68 (NBA Finals 2002)
Most blocks made in a four-game series: 11 (NBA Finals 2002)
Most blocks made in one game: 8 (NBA Finals 2001, tied Bill Walton, Hakeem Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing and Tim Duncan).
Most free throws made in one game, half: 13 (NBA Finals 2000)
Most free throws made in one game, quarter: 9 (NBA Finals 2000; tied with Allen Iverson)
Most free throws attempted in one game: 39 (NBA Finals 2000)
Most free throws attempted in one game, quarter: 16 (NBA Finals 2000, NBA Finals 2002)
Highest field goal percentage, all-time: .602%
Highest scoring average for a center: 29.0 points per game
Most blocks in a five-game series: 17 (2001 vs Philadelphia 76ers)
Orlando Magic franchise records (2):
Most rebounds, game: 28 (November 20, 1993 vs. New Jersey Nets).
Most blocks, game: 15 (November 20, 1993 vs. New Jersey Nets).
Los Angeles Lakers franchise records (8):
Most offensive rebounds, season: 336 (1999-2000).
Most offensive rebounds, all-time, playoffs: 561 (1996–2004).
Most offensive rebounds, game, playoffs: 11 (May 6, 2001 vs. Sacramento Kings).
Most free throws attempted, game: 31 (November 19, 1999 vs. Chicago Bulls).
Most free throws attempted, game, playoffs: 39 (June 9, 2000 vs. Indiana Pacers).
Most free throws attempted, half: 20 (March 14, 2002 vs. Golden State Warriors).
Most free throws attempted, half, playoffs: 22 (June 9, 2000 vs. Indiana Pacers).
Most free throws attempted, quarter, playoffs: 16 (June 9, 2000 vs. Indiana Pacers).
Miami Heat franchise records (1):
Most free throws attempted, quarter, playoffs: 10 (May 2, 2006 vs. Chicago Bulls; tied with Lamar Odom) [5]

[edit] Other
Key member of the 1994 USA World Championship and 1996 Olympic basketball team, both of which won gold.
Ranked #9 in SLAM Magazine's Top 75 NBA Players of all time in 2003.
O'Neal and teammate Gary Payton became only the 11th and 12th players to reach the NBA Finals with three different teams.
Set an NBA record by missing all 11 of his free throw attempts in a game against Seattle on December 8, 2000.
Says he can't shoot free throws because he fell out of a tree as a child and broke both his wrists.
Won the Male Athlete of the Year Award at the BET Awards '05.
In the 1995/96 NBA Season, his last with the Orlando Magic, O'Neal went 50% from behind the 3 point arc hitting the only 3 pointer of his 14 season career.
As of the end of the 05-06 season, O'Neal has recorded 48 games of scoring 40 or more points in the regular season.
As of the end of the 05-06 season, O'Neal has recorded 3 games of scoring 50 or more points (all in the regular season).


WILT CHAMBERLAIN
Career Highlights
Too many to mention kaya ung pnakamahalagang info nlng post ko
- averages 30.1 ppg ,22.9 rpg,4.4 apg in his entire career
- claimed in his autobiography "a view from above" that he had sex with 20,000 women laffman::


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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2007, 01:36:49 am »
Sa pagkamanyak siguro panalo si Chamberlain... 20,000 women eh...
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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2007, 02:14:21 am »
SHAQ...
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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2007, 07:16:55 am »
sa palagay q pareho lng clang magaling magkaiba nmn kc ang kanila generation and different style and sytem of play. sa aking opinion c shaq nun kapanahunan nya nging dominant palyer ibig sabhin walang makapigil aghawak n nya ang bola c wilt nmn kc although he scored 100 points and 56 rebounds in one of his games pero pag c bill russell n kaharap nya npipigilan cya minsan lng yta nya tinalo sa championship games, pero idol q c wilt ah 20000 n chikas b nmn ang ntikman nya wakoko! manyak!
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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2007, 07:26:58 am »
I go for Shaq. Pero mahirap talaga i-compare, parang pinag laban mo si ALI vs. TYSON.

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2007, 07:38:40 am »
no offense pero parang ang bias naman, nilagay mo parin yung ibang info ni Shaq samantalang hindi mo nilagay yung info ni Wilt. eh di sana nilagay mo nlng yung pinakamahalagang info ni Shaq instead naglagay ka ng infos.

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2007, 09:32:43 am »

- claimed in his autobiography "a view from above" that he had sex with 20,000 women laffman::



i think exaggerated yng pgkasabi nya dn sa autobiography nya..

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2007, 09:44:48 am »
mas magaling si shaq toast::

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2007, 09:51:38 am »
additional info on Wilt Chamberlain:

-Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1978)
-NBA champion (1967, '72)
-NBA Finals MVP (1972)
-NBA MVP (1960, '66, '67, '68)
-All-NBA First Team (1960, '61, '62, '64, '66, '67, '68)
-Second Team ('63, '65, '72)
-All-Defensive First Team (1972, '73)
-Rookie of Year (1960)
-One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996)

My vote goes to Shaq, ndi ako nakapanood ng mga games ni Wilt kaya di ko alam kung ano ung style nya.. kahit nga dad ko ndi na naabutan naglaro si Wilt e!

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2007, 08:32:02 pm »
  Shaq, Wilt was the only big guy then that's why he dominated plus no shot clock then . Shaq had to play with bigger, faster,better palyers !
   Wilt was the better lover though ! hehehe ! or a better lier ?

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2007, 10:12:34 pm »
no offense pero parang ang bias naman, nilagay mo parin yung ibang info ni Shaq samantalang hindi mo nilagay yung info ni Wilt. eh di sana nilagay mo nlng yung pinakamahalagang info ni Shaq instead naglagay ka ng infos.

none taken, pero masyado kasing marami ung kay wilt tapos most of them are in paragraph form pa kaya mahirap ipost  laffman::

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2007, 12:09:38 am »
i go for shaquille o'neal

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2007, 01:34:09 am »
yup.. both of them are great in their own stardom.. hands down!!! but the greatness that wilt showed.. cannot be compared to anyone.. today.. in my own opinion lang naman,,, hehehe..

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2007, 01:35:12 am »
pareho clang magaling............
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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2007, 02:16:13 am »
they have different styles, tingin ko mas lamang si wilt chamberlain, all around kasi sya, tsaka d pa kasi natin sya nakita maglaro b4. nasa balls pa tau ng mga tatay natin  laffman::  laffman::

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2007, 06:44:47 am »
I think Wilt said it was 30,000 women. But when he got older, he said that it's better to be with one woman for the rest of your life and please her than be with a lot of women everyday and just please yourself.

Regarding the topic. It's hard to compare the two. There's a big generation gap.

My main reasons:
1. Shaq will never match the personal stats of Wilt.
2. Wilt never had the same competition as Shaq (Russell was his only competition. Wilt dominated the stats, Bill got the W's).

Personally, I think that if the Y2K version of Shaq was sent to the past to compete with the legends, he would've dominated more than Wilt because Shaq is faster, quicker and more powerful. But then again, the basketball technology back then was inferior. Shaq's teams were also more successful. Each team he played for got to the Finals. He got 3 rings in LA, and got 1 in Miami just 2 years.

But we'll never know.

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2007, 08:33:46 am »
guys we have to choose one.. hnd pwedeng both, pra sa mga nag sabi ng both...

Para sa akin c Shaquille O'neal yan... try mo tangalin ang 3 sec in the paint ngyun khit c ben wallace score ng mlaki. hehe... c shaquille pa kya. hehe... Shaquille yan tol.. no doupt.  bnana

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2007, 08:59:20 am »
ill go for shaq.........

ito lng masasabi ko... baliktarin mo... pag laruin mo c shaq sa era ni wilt....
ganun din c wilt paglaruin mo sa era ni shaq.....

100% shaq will dominate the game.........
kay wilt 50/50 chance na idominate niya ang game.... kc marami na ciang katulad na malalaki, mabibilis at may tira sa labas... bka kay arvydas sabonis (sorry kung wrong spelling ako) palang di na cia makaporma... panu pa kaya sa mga naglalaro ngaun? ben wallace. amare. duncan. yao ming. etc.....

or bka dakdakan lng cia ni dwayne and lebron ... hehehehe.... ikutan cia ng ikutan ni iverson...

un lng naman po ang aking dahilan.....................................................

pro kung c mr Kareem Abdul-Jabbar ....... with his lethal signature shot..???? hmmmmm ... c",) ... pwede....
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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2007, 09:14:35 am »
i go for Shaq! sa dami ng modifications ng basketball rules to make it more challenging and exciting compared to Wilt's time.... siguro sa kamanyakan si Wilt, ilang beses kya nag-katulo yan?

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Re: Shaq or wilt.. cno mas magaling??
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2007, 08:09:11 pm »
 Kwaki , I agree totaly. Kareem will kick all their butts ! not only with the skyhook but over 90%  free trow shooter. Will block any shot in the paint and is the coolest cat in the NBA. Has six rings too !