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Lying and Privacy
« on: November 12, 2010, 01:07:42 am »
Almost 3 months pa lang kami ng irog ko, ang dami naming common things and we get along with each other quickly and one thing in common is that pareho kami gusto na mag settle down. So binalewala namin kung gaano pa lang kami ka tagal at nag decide kami to be engaged, nagpaalam na kami sa both parents although wala pang formal date, we just informed them that we will be getting married.

I expected na dadaan parin kami sa petty things ng relationship, sadly the hardest part would be the TRUST part, lalo na kung minsan kahit maliliit na bagay nabubuking ko siya na nagsisinungaling. Although maliit lang na bagay ang pinag sisinungalingan niya, I cant help but think why? And nagdududa ako baka may tinatago siya.

Here are some situations:

Di ako masyado particular sa celphone ng partner ko, pero maraming beses ko syang nakita na habang naglalakad kami tapos kung nasa likod ko sya tapos pag bigla akong napalingon habang nagttxt sya. Bigla siyang magugulat. One time
I confronted her and asked for her celphone at tingnan ko sino katxt nya, biglang nagpanic and then para bang may dinedelete. Yun nag away kami bakit ko daw ginawa yun, sabi niya privacy thing daw.

Another is, may previous FB account siya na dineactivate na namin kasi its a past thing na daw. Tapos one day, nakita ko sa FB news na nag change ng profile pic yung account na yun, nag duda ako so tinanong ko siya kung siya ba yung nag activate tapos nag change ng profile pic. Sabi niya hindi daw siya, pero alam ko na ako at siya lang ang may alam ng password. Then nag away ulit kami, tapos ni login ko yung current account niya sa FB, dun nakita at nabasa ko in real time, nag cha chat sila ng friend niyang girl, she is asking for a help to cover her up, na gusto niya mag post sa wall niya yung friend niya na siya ang gumalaw sa FB ng gf ko.

haaaay anong masasabi niyo mga spies? specially the lady/girl espiyas out there?

Mahirap talaga pag nag seseryoso na baka dun ka pa maloko, at kung kelan ka pa nag seseryoso dun mo pa mas mapapansin ang kamalian ng partner mo. Palagi na lang niyang nirarason ang privacy, pero di ba kung gusto niyo ng magpakasal iisa na lang ang privacy niyo.
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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2010, 01:33:06 am »
yang ang mahgirap pag masyado tayong seryoso tayo unang nasasaktan... anyway andian na yan, you found out na may tinatago talaga yang gf mo. if I were you kausapin mo siya ng maayos aminin nya kung ano dapat aminin at dapat handa kang tangapin yun... dahil mahirap makisama sa isang tao na tinitira ka patalikod..

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2010, 01:35:23 am »
Sa tingin ko sir medyo maaga pa para magpakasal kayo.. kilalanin nyo muna ung isat isa.. tulad ngyon nkikita mo na mga ugali nya.. mahirap kasi ung ganyan hindi open sayo ung partner mo. daming sinesekreto bagay.. pero sa pag iimbestiga mo sabi mo na gumagawa ng way ung partner mo para mapagtakpan ung ginawa nya. kausapin mo siya masinsinan at tanungin mo muna at alamin mo muna kung may itinatago ung partner mo. mahirap talaga na mapasubo..

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2010, 02:03:17 am »
May punto po kayo.. masyado parin maaga. pero alam namin talagang maaga pa.

Napag usapan na naming dalawa to. Kaso tuwing naguusap kami about dito, it breaks both of our hearts.
Iiyak siya kasi nasa isip ko daw palagi nalang mali niya ang nakikita ko, and aminado siya na nagsinungaling siya
pero wala naman siyang ibang ginagawa. Sabi pa niya natatakot lang daw siyang aminin ang totoo kasi either
baka magalit ako or hindi ako papayag. Sinabi ko rin na try me, sabihin mo kung ano ang totoo. So far, sinabi naman
niya sa akin ang mga rason at ano tinatago niya, malayo naman sa iniisip kong panloloko pero petty things lang ika nga.

Minsan she lied about me na matagal siyang umuwi kasi sabi niya ulan pa daw, nagduda ako kaya sinundo ko ng di ko sinabi. Pag dating ko sa lugar hindi naman ulan. Tapos hindi niya sinasabi kung anong location niya. Talagang kaduda duda kung iisipin, pero when i confronted her gusto lang niya matagal umuwi kasi nabobored na siya sa boarding haus niya, and she wants to reserve herself with a little time lang daw kaya ayaw niya malaman location niya.

So far pinaniniwalaan ko naman explanation niya, and i cling to a new beginning everytime magaway kami about the issue. Hindi ko alam kung nagpapaka bobo nalang ako dahil mahal ko siya or tama talaga ang ginagawa ko na mag trust sa kanya dahil wala naman siyang ginagawang masama. Na convince niya ako kasi iba talaga iyak niya pag may confrontation, nahihirapan na daw siyang mag prove. Ayoko rin na nahihirapan siya.

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 02:20:54 am »
Ang sa akin lang po is dapat khit gaano kaliit na bagay man dapat open po kayo sa isat-isa. lahat ng bagay dapat ipaalam lalo na magkalayo kayo at hindi madalas magkasama db.. alam ko nararamdaman mo mahal mo talaga siya kaya kahit anong paliwanag na ok lang sayo..

Pero kung ako ikaw hindi pwede sken ung ganung bagay na simpleng bagay nakakapag sinungaling siya pano pa kaya kapag malaking bagay na db? syempre magkakaiba tayo ng ugali at pag iisip. nasasaiyo parin yan pano mo ihahandle ung relationship nyo para mag tagal kayo.. hirap magpaka martir db?

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2010, 02:44:01 am »
Kung pinaguusapan niyo na eh kasalan, dapat wala ng tinatago ang gf mo, bro. Malaki man o maliit na bagay ay pareho lang ang kahulugan. Kung ganyan na siya ngayun, pano ka nakakasiguro na later on hindi na. Kausapin mo siya ng masinsinan, paaminim mo and be ready for it, kailangan handa kang tangapin anu man ito, maaringtinatago niya ito para sa ikabubuti niyo o dahil may ginagawa siyang masama(wag naman sana). Tapos saka ka na magdecide kung itutuloy mo pa ang wedding plans niyo.

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2010, 03:08:32 am »
tol magiging asawa mo yan..kahit maliit na bagay lang yan..kailangan sinasabi nya sayo..kung gusto nya ng konting space pwede naman nyang sabihin din sayo..feeling ko may mas malaki pang tinatago yan o kaya di pa ready magpakasal..nasakal mo lang.

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2010, 03:32:21 am »
^^^ magaling din akung umiyak dati bro, pero nagsisinungaling lang ako, in short drama ko lang yun, para ma convince ko siya na i'm telling the truth and the others are liers, and her instinct is wrong. Effective naman dati, ni minsan di ako naboking. So goodluck, ang utak nasa taas. If she's for you, she's for you, kahit maghiwalay pa kayo ngayun, someday kayo parin. .

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2010, 04:38:50 am »
Positive na yan kapatid merong tinatago, sa umpisa pa lang dapat pinag usapan nyo na yan kahit simpleng bagay gaano kaliit pa yan dapat wala siyang tinatago sayo kahit ikaw, bandang huli pag sisisi  smoking::

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2010, 04:54:12 am »
Ang pagpapakasal ay hindi laro na pag ayawan na eh ayawan na... It's a long term engagement for both of you... Pero gaya nga ng sinabi mo na may doubt ka sa kanya na may tinatago nga sya, let us help you bro.. i-pm mo sa akin yung FB account niya and i will update you kung ano man ang makikita or malalaman ko about sa kanya.. spying someone in the net is the craziest thing i know and i'm good at it.. hehehehe
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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2010, 12:40:13 pm »
Im also in for the spy-job.. i very very good at it..na huli ko nga gf ko eh..affair with some guy..boom! ngaun fubu ko nalang xa kahit mahal pa nya ko..wla nko respeto sa kanya eh.. hehe..share ko lang mga brother..amen!

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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2010, 01:05:28 pm »
Almost 3 months pa lang kami ng irog ko, ang dami naming common things and we get along with each other quickly and one thing in common is that pareho kami gusto na mag settle down. So binalewala namin kung gaano pa lang kami ka tagal at nag decide kami to be engaged, nagpaalam na kami sa both parents although wala pang formal date, we just informed them that we will be getting married.

I expected na dadaan parin kami sa petty things ng relationship, sadly the hardest part would be the TRUST part, lalo na kung minsan kahit maliliit na bagay nabubuking ko siya na nagsisinungaling. Although maliit lang na bagay ang pinag sisinungalingan niya, I cant help but think why? And nagdududa ako baka may tinatago siya.

Here are some situations:

Di ako masyado particular sa celphone ng partner ko, pero maraming beses ko syang nakita na habang naglalakad kami tapos kung nasa likod ko sya tapos pag bigla akong napalingon habang nagttxt sya. Bigla siyang magugulat. One time
I confronted her and asked for her celphone at tingnan ko sino katxt nya, biglang nagpanic and then para bang may dinedelete. Yun nag away kami bakit ko daw ginawa yun, sabi niya privacy thing daw.

Another is, may previous FB account siya na dineactivate na namin kasi its a past thing na daw. Tapos one day, nakita ko sa FB news na nag change ng profile pic yung account na yun, nag duda ako so tinanong ko siya kung siya ba yung nag activate tapos nag change ng profile pic. Sabi niya hindi daw siya, pero alam ko na ako at siya lang ang may alam ng password. Then nag away ulit kami, tapos ni login ko yung current account niya sa FB, dun nakita at nabasa ko in real time, nag cha chat sila ng friend niyang girl, she is asking for a help to cover her up, na gusto niya mag post sa wall niya yung friend niya na siya ang gumalaw sa FB ng gf ko.

haaaay anong masasabi niyo mga spies? specially the lady/girl espiyas out there?

Mahirap talaga pag nag seseryoso na baka dun ka pa maloko, at kung kelan ka pa nag seseryoso dun mo pa mas mapapansin ang kamalian ng partner mo. Palagi na lang niyang nirarason ang privacy, pero di ba kung gusto niyo ng magpakasal iisa na lang ang privacy niyo.
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hi bro,ka-toxic sa work di me maka-porma at makapag-espiya  tuloy  :P ;D

hays,didn't we all know women can be a jerk too  unless proven other wise...

"If marriage is supposed to be a lifetime commitment,it should be OK to take your time to know
the right person."



i do believe that a relationship shouldn't be claustrophobic.it's also healthy to have / want your "ME" time

a space alone,where you can still do your own stuff  that is also helpful for individual growth.

masasabi ko lang po,before you jump into marriage,buy some time to get to know each other more po.

yun 3 months pa lang kyu getting to know stage pa din po yan,and i guess mas i-aim nyu at this point

yun exclusivity / the period where in you both made a point na kayu na at wala na kyung iba pang i-eentertain.

when you've proven your exclusivity,that's the time you move into engagement period.

so now,nagkaka-problema maybe si gf ay medyo madami pang taga-hanga po which she can't hardly

resist-who knows?

maybe better bro to let your relationship goes through a period of time before you tied the knot.

one more thing bro,you are a man,and a man wants to feel manly,needed & admire and sana

now pa lang medyo feel mo na nabibigay naman ni gf yan.

personally ako bro,im a self confessed FLIRT,but i see to it that if i'm with my bf,our time together is worth

spending for because I'll make him feel  & treat him the best  and i won't take him for granted.

sabe ko nga :

Nobody can disturb me / as to take someone calls / text especially when i'm sitting down with my boyfriend.

sabe nga din ni pareng Benjamin Franklin :

keep your eye wide open before marriage and half shut afterwards.



now bro,make a special date with your gf/fiancee,just be a matter of fact & share all your concern once & for all.

kasi,,,unless others know how we feel they cannot correct certain behaviors or know what kind of support we need.


again BE A MAN. WHEN A MAN IS IN LOVE HE'S NOT TRYING TO SHARE HIS GIRL WITH ANYBODY---period


@ bros & sis do remember :

Commitment is not something that anyone who is normal signs up to after the first few dates.

Falling in love is an addictive,intoxicating,exciting & head spinning chemistry affair.your body is flooded w/ feel-good neurotransmitter like dopamine,serotonin & feeling your in top of the world.BUT STAYING IN LOVE,YOU NEED SOMETHING MORE THAN CHEMISTRY,MEMORIES TO KEEP YOU TOGETHER

(yan po ang dahilan why o why may whirlwind kind of relationship at mag jump kara karaka---so mas wise to buy

sometime po-BOW!) :-*




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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2010, 02:59:13 pm »
 ;D ;D ;D

Haaaaaaaay.. Unang una sa lahat. wala ng tatalo pa sa espiya.
Dito lang ako nakapag share at natulungan ng mga taong di ko kilala pero alam
kong nasa puso ang pagtulong.

Maraming salamat sa inyo bro at sis.
Specially to sis FerminaDaza who took an extra time to share kahit na busy.

Siguro kelangan pa namin talaga ng time.
At mag seset ako ng date na kausapin ko siya ng masinsinan about it.
Siguro i dont need to confront her and force her to admit, whats important nalang is what we
can do for the future.

Again, taus at tagos puso po akong nagpapasalamat sa inyo.  ::flowers ::flowers ::flowers

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2010, 06:34:49 pm »
;D ;D ;D

Haaaaaaaay.. Unang una sa lahat. wala ng tatalo pa sa espiya.
Dito lang ako nakapag share at natulungan ng mga taong di ko kilala pero alam
kong nasa puso ang pagtulong.

Maraming salamat sa inyo bro at sis.
Specially to sis FerminaDaza who took an extra time to share kahit na busy.

Siguro kelangan pa namin talaga ng time.
At mag seset ako ng date na kausapin ko siya ng masinsinan about it.
Siguro i dont need to confront her and force her to admit, whats important nalang is what we
can do for the future.

Again, taus at tagos puso po akong nagpapasalamat sa inyo.  ::flowers ::flowers ::flowers

Wag lang masyado mag madali kapatid darating rin yan  toast::

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2010, 10:37:55 pm »
Delikado ang ganyan mga signs.. believe me. better find somebody else who is more sincere to you..

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2010, 03:13:20 am »
signs that you are ready to tie the knot,

If you could Love  without fear.
If you could Trust without wondering.
If you could Love  without restrictions.
If you could Want without demand
If you could Accept him/her as how he/she is

sadly as you presented here ... its just not there  ... my advice " Don't Rush " my friend
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« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2010, 09:44:22 am »
.. kapatid! ang maipapayo ko lang sayo ay delay mo muna kasal ninyo hanggang alam mo sa puso mo na magiging maligaya ka sa kahit anung pinaggagawa nya :)

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« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2010, 02:30:32 pm »
it takes time.. mahirap pumasok sa isang commitment na hindi mo pa masyado kakilala ang partner mo.. maybe you know her enough to ask her to marry you pero madami ka pa din tlga matutuklasan sa personality niya.. so, advise ko lang is.. establish a common ground between both of you.. certain limits.. and create a punishment kapag nabreak ang mga rules na yun.. ikaw ang lalaki.. ikaw dapat masusunod.. hindi naman yata tama na dadaanin nalang niya lagi sa iyak.. mahirap yung lagi siya mag self-pitty para lang mawala ang heat sa issue..

pero kahit ano pa yang tintgo niya.. if ready ka mag take ng risk.. just go for it.. kung magkamali ka.. it's her lost.. ang mahalaga ginawa mo yung best na kaya mo gawin.. just get to know her more before you really decide to be married..

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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 05:19:34 pm »
Mahirap talaga pag nag seseryoso na baka dun ka pa maloko, at kung kelan ka pa nag seseryoso dun mo pa mas mapapansin ang kamalian ng partner mo. Palagi na lang niyang nirarason ang privacy, pero di ba kung gusto niyo ng magpakasal iisa na lang ang privacy niyo.
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Not all times applicable yan. Di pwede to disclose to your partner everything specially when it comes to confidential work related issue.

Since on your part ay nawawalan ka ng trust sa iyong partner din you must be vigilant. Set a trap, maybe hayaan mo lang sya..gamitan mo ng reverse psychology technique. Pag naka pag relax na sya sa ginagawa nya at sa tingin naman nya ay hindi mo na pinapansin, then that's the time to initiate espiya mode.

Sa isang kasal na napuntahan ko, nagsalita yung Dad ng bride, ang unang punto nya is..."ikaw bride hindi lahat ng bagay pag aari mo at dapat mong paki-alaman, ganun din ikaw groom...kagay ito ng mga text messages....maraming sensitibong bagay na hindi para sa inyo..antayin ang isa't isa na i-share ang mga sensitibong bagay na ito. Yan ang magiging puno't dulo ng pag aaway nyo pag wala kayong respeto at trust sa isa't isa."

Hindi yan yung exact word pero the moral value is there na.

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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 11:40:33 am »
Not all times applicable yan. Di pwede to disclose to your partner everything specially when it comes to confidential work related issue.

Since on your part ay nawawalan ka ng trust sa iyong partner din you must be vigilant. Set a trap, maybe hayaan mo lang sya..gamitan mo ng reverse psychology technique. Pag naka pag relax na sya sa ginagawa nya at sa tingin naman nya ay hindi mo na pinapansin, then that's the time to initiate espiya mode.

Sa isang kasal na napuntahan ko, nagsalita yung Dad ng bride, ang unang punto nya is..."ikaw bride hindi lahat ng bagay pag aari mo at dapat mong paki-alaman, ganun din ikaw groom...kagay ito ng mga text messages....maraming sensitibong bagay na hindi para sa inyo..antayin ang isa't isa na i-share ang mga sensitibong bagay na ito. Yan ang magiging puno't dulo ng pag aaway nyo pag wala kayong respeto at trust sa isa't isa."

Hindi yan yung exact word pero the moral value is there na.

how about the mother of the bride po di po ba sya nag comment sa sinabe nung dad ? :P

perhaps on male perspective yan nga po ang tamang lusot este sagot po (about lying & privacy)

but agreed po ako that without love & respect it's impossible to have a working relationship. ;)

common wisdom dictates that if you are close to someone (e.g. wife / hubby) you will just be honest...

@ sir teles,labyuh po wag mo po me i-request ma-ban ha!! ;D




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Re: Lying and Privacy
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2010, 09:41:25 am »
about SMS messages/cp of the husband and wife, para rin itong underwear. Alangan naman you will share your bra/panty to your husband and vice versa. Same holds true with CPs and their contents. Private property to, kesyo mag-asawa kayo, hindi ito ang dahilan para me karapatan ka na basahin lahat ng messages sa CP niya. Trust and respect lang naman ang kelangan sa isang marriage life. Not all secrets have to be told in order for one to be called loyal/loving husband/wife.


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